Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Noel Craig » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:47 pm

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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:51 pm

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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Executive Member » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:22 pm

Anyone from Modbury care to explain why 7 A Grade and 4 B Grade players played in in LOF :shock:
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby on_a_length » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:31 pm

Executive Member wrote:Anyone from Modbury care to explain why 7 A Grade and 4 B Grade players played in in LOF :shock:


Not from Modbury but i'd assume they're unavailable next week, probably due to a wedding i would guess
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Yardy Lard » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:34 pm

on_a_length wrote:
Executive Member wrote:Anyone from Modbury care to explain why 7 A Grade and 4 B Grade players played in in LOF :shock:


Not from Modbury but i'd assume they're unavailable next week, probably due to a wedding i would guess



Fair to say they were washed out and decided to play in the 1 day side. Very ordinary, Stacked a football side this year in a lower grade so why not a cricket side, They do it well. Muppets. :oops:
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby OKC! » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:22 pm

Yardy Lard wrote:
on_a_length wrote:
Executive Member wrote:Anyone from Modbury care to explain why 7 A Grade and 4 B Grade players played in in LOF :shock:


Not from Modbury but i'd assume they're unavailable next week, probably due to a wedding i would guess



Fair to say they were washed out and decided to play in the 1 day side. Very ordinary, Stacked a football side this year in a lower grade so why not a cricket side, They do it well. Muppets. :oops:


I heard that they were some of then didn't want to play in the lower grades but were made to. Not too sure if that's the truth but apparently what one A Grader has said.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby OKC! » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:23 pm

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You Should ;)

Shut up stupid :lol:


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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Footy Smart » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:53 am

Yardy Lard wrote:
on_a_length wrote:
Executive Member wrote:Anyone from Modbury care to explain why 7 A Grade and 4 B Grade players played in in LOF :shock:


Not from Modbury but i'd assume they're unavailable next week, probably due to a wedding i would guess



Fair to say they were washed out and decided to play in the 1 day side. Very ordinary, Stacked a football side this year in a lower grade so why not a cricket side, They do it well. Muppets. :oops:



You clearly have no idea Yardy.... so who's the muppet?

EA, if the MCC committee made them play thats poor (should have been to make up numbers only), it could have also been to ensure the A grade played (as they only played 3 games roughly).
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Honda07 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:12 am

Footy Smart wrote:
Yardy Lard wrote:
on_a_length wrote:
Executive Member wrote:Anyone from Modbury care to explain why 7 A Grade and 4 B Grade players played in in LOF :shock:


Not from Modbury but i'd assume they're unavailable next week, probably due to a wedding i would guess



Fair to say they were washed out and decided to play in the 1 day side. Very ordinary, Stacked a football side this year in a lower grade so why not a cricket side, They do it well. Muppets. :oops:



You clearly have no idea Yardy.... so who's the muppet?

EA, if the MCC committee made them play thats poor (should have been to make up numbers only), it could have also been to ensure the A grade played (as they only played 3 games roughly).

It was there entire A grade side - as it was listed on mycricket. Its actually against the rules if any of them play in the 2 day comp this week so will be interesting to see who plays in their A grade.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Footy Smart » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:34 am

It was there entire A grade side - as it was listed on mycricket. Its actually against the rules if any of them play in the 2 day comp this week so will be interesting to see who plays in their A grade


Really? thats interesting. Seems they may have shot themselves in the foot, which isnt surprising :lol:
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:58 am

Not sure there is a ByLaw that prevents them from playing LOF one week and A2 the following. I know they have missed a lot of cricket, but you would have to question if it is in the spirit of the game. Teams play in LOF for a reason and one of those reasons is to not give A Graders a practice game
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby no_remorse28 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:55 am

Absolutely cant play, coz it is effectively playing the same round. one 2 day round equates to the two one day rounds that run along with it, so they cant play the same round for 2 different sides in different grades, words from David Heyzers mouth to me last year on a similar matter
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:03 pm

no_remorse28 wrote:Absolutely cant play, coz it is effectively playing the same round. one 2 day round equates to the two one day rounds that run along with it, so they cant play the same round for 2 different sides in different grades, words from David Heyzers mouth to me last year on a similar matter

Still think you will struggle to find a ByLaw that prevents them doing what they have done.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Trader » Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:33 pm

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:Absolutely cant play, coz it is effectively playing the same round. one 2 day round equates to the two one day rounds that run along with it, so they cant play the same round for 2 different sides in different grades, words from David Heyzers mouth to me last year on a similar matter

Still think you will struggle to find a ByLaw that prevents them doing what they have done.


What about this one? Seems fairly clear to me.

C6. PLAYING IN MORE THAN ONE TEAM
No player may play for 2 or more teams and/or clubs in the same round of A.T.C.A. fixtures without the prior permission of the permit Sub-Committee. In each match in which a player plays without such permission the opponents of the offending team shall receive the greater of the actual match and incentive points earned by it or the points which would have been awarded had it been in receipt of a forfeit from the offending team. The offending team in each case shall lose all match and incentive points earned by it in the match plus ten (10) additional points.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby no_remorse28 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:38 pm

Trader wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:Absolutely cant play, coz it is effectively playing the same round. one 2 day round equates to the two one day rounds that run along with it, so they cant play the same round for 2 different sides in different grades, words from David Heyzers mouth to me last year on a similar matter

Still think you will struggle to find a ByLaw that prevents them doing what they have done.


What about this one? Seems fairly clear to me.

C6. PLAYING IN MORE THAN ONE TEAM
No player may play for 2 or more teams and/or clubs in the same round of A.T.C.A. fixtures without the prior permission of the permit Sub-Committee. In each match in which a player plays without such permission the opponents of the offending team shall receive the greater of the actual match and incentive points earned by it or the points which would have been awarded had it been in receipt of a forfeit from the offending team. The offending team in each case shall lose all match and incentive points earned by it in the match plus ten (10) additional points.

Cheers, David Heyzer is the one who informed me we couldn't do it, so I would of thought he knew what he was on about ! this is were he was coming from
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Honda07 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:45 pm

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:Absolutely cant play, coz it is effectively playing the same round. one 2 day round equates to the two one day rounds that run along with it, so they cant play the same round for 2 different sides in different grades, words from David Heyzers mouth to me last year on a similar matter

Still think you will struggle to find a ByLaw that prevents them doing what they have done.

Here is the problem for us. They technically havent done anything wrong yet, and now knowing the rule their whole A grade can play LO F again this week AND they play us AGAIN. So our D grade gets spanked 2 weeks in a row by a side that has struggled to win a game before this. The other thing will be if they cant find 11 (or 8 ) other blokes to play A grade and hence have to forfeit - does this mean their other 2 day teams forfeit too as u cant forfeit a higher grade side??
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby OKC! » Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:58 pm

Honda07 wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:Absolutely cant play, coz it is effectively playing the same round. one 2 day round equates to the two one day rounds that run along with it, so they cant play the same round for 2 different sides in different grades, words from David Heyzers mouth to me last year on a similar matter

Still think you will struggle to find a ByLaw that prevents them doing what they have done.

Here is the problem for us. They technically havent done anything wrong yet, and now knowing the rule their whole A grade can play LO F again this week AND they play us AGAIN. So our D grade gets spanked 2 weeks in a row by a side that has struggled to win a game before this. The other thing will be if they cant find 11 (or 8 ) other blokes to play A grade and hence have to forfeit - does this mean their other 2 day teams forfeit too as u cant forfeit a higher grade side??


Surely something dodgy will happen and they will all line up against Concordia.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:38 pm

Trader wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:Absolutely cant play, coz it is effectively playing the same round. one 2 day round equates to the two one day rounds that run along with it, so they cant play the same round for 2 different sides in different grades, words from David Heyzers mouth to me last year on a similar matter

Still think you will struggle to find a ByLaw that prevents them doing what they have done.


What about this one? Seems fairly clear to me.

C6. PLAYING IN MORE THAN ONE TEAM
No player may play for 2 or more teams and/or clubs in the same round of A.T.C.A. fixtures without the prior permission of the permit Sub-Committee. In each match in which a player plays without such permission the opponents of the offending team shall receive the greater of the actual match and incentive points earned by it or the points which would have been awarded had it been in receipt of a forfeit from the offending team. The offending team in each case shall lose all match and incentive points earned by it in the match plus ten (10) additional points.

Not sure it is 100% clear that Rounds 9 & 10 in LO competition equates to Round 6 in 2-Day competition.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby Trader » Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:47 pm

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
Trader wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:Absolutely cant play, coz it is effectively playing the same round. one 2 day round equates to the two one day rounds that run along with it, so they cant play the same round for 2 different sides in different grades, words from David Heyzers mouth to me last year on a similar matter

Still think you will struggle to find a ByLaw that prevents them doing what they have done.


What about this one? Seems fairly clear to me.

C6. PLAYING IN MORE THAN ONE TEAM
No player may play for 2 or more teams and/or clubs in the same round of A.T.C.A. fixtures without the prior permission of the permit Sub-Committee. In each match in which a player plays without such permission the opponents of the offending team shall receive the greater of the actual match and incentive points earned by it or the points which would have been awarded had it been in receipt of a forfeit from the offending team. The offending team in each case shall lose all match and incentive points earned by it in the match plus ten (10) additional points.

Not sure it is 100% clear that Rounds 9 & 10 in LO competition equates to Round 6 in 2-Day competition.


Agree it's not 100% explicit on that front, but then you could easily quote other sections of the by-laws that clearly state things like "for the purposes of this by-law, the LO competition is considered seperate" (this is in reference to forefeiting your lowest side first). Given the absence of a statement along these lines, it's reasonably clear to me the intention of the by-law is to include the LO comp.

Either way, at a minimum Modbury should receive a please explain, but if it were up to me they'd lose the points in both grades if any of those 11 play higher this week.
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Re: Adelaide Turf Cricket Association 2011-12

Postby no_remorse28 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:07 pm

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
Trader wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:Absolutely cant play, coz it is effectively playing the same round. one 2 day round equates to the two one day rounds that run along with it, so they cant play the same round for 2 different sides in different grades, words from David Heyzers mouth to me last year on a similar matter

Still think you will struggle to find a ByLaw that prevents them doing what they have done.


What about this one? Seems fairly clear to me.

C6. PLAYING IN MORE THAN ONE TEAM
No player may play for 2 or more teams and/or clubs in the same round of A.T.C.A. fixtures without the prior permission of the permit Sub-Committee. In each match in which a player plays without such permission the opponents of the offending team shall receive the greater of the actual match and incentive points earned by it or the points which would have been awarded had it been in receipt of a forfeit from the offending team. The offending team in each case shall lose all match and incentive points earned by it in the match plus ten (10) additional points.

Not sure it is 100% clear that Rounds 9 & 10 in LO competition equates to Round 6 in 2-Day competition.

Once again this exactly what happened at what David Heyzer himself explained to me, we wanted my brother to play week 2 of the B3 game as it was a wash out week one and it was a one dayer week 2, I called to clarify that we could pick him now coz its a one dayer, after he had played what would of been the first week in B3 in our LOE side, David straight away told me no, he can not play for two sides in what is considered the same round because the 2 weeks of LO comp that run parallel to the 2 day comp are considered the same round. Case closed

Taking into account that round one of the 2 day grades is a one dayer and LO doesn't play, as well as LO having a bye round on the January 28 weekend fixture, it works out to be the same round
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