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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

Postby Thiele » Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:11 pm

Sorry to intrude dog supporters but is Caleb Edmead still playing for the dogs
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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:12 pm

Big Phil wrote:Pumpa Sutherland is free to play in the 2nd Semi now after his tribunal hearing this evening so Schelly wont be needed.


I've been flat out over past few days.
I understand he got one game, so we appealed?
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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

Postby Grahaml » Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:38 pm

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Big Phil wrote:Pumpa Sutherland is free to play in the 2nd Semi now after his tribunal hearing this evening so Schelly wont be needed.


I've been flat out over past few days.
I understand he got one game, so we appealed?


The story he "got" one game was an error. The assessment was 1 game with an early plea but we were always going to go to the tribunal. He never got found guilty so never got anything.

Schell was never activated as ruck relief, but key forward relief. The fact Pumpa is available changes nothing regarding Schell, but Hayes and Havelberg being fit does.
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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

Postby Big Phil » Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:07 am

Thiele wrote:Sorry to intrude dog supporters but is Caleb Edmead still playing for the dogs


Thiele, he played a fair bit of reserves this year and then about 2 months ago he got concused from memory. Couldn't really find the form that saw him playing reserves but he has been playing Under 18's the last few weeks and in fact was named in the best 3 players for Central's Under 18's against North last weekend.

Would still be training with the reserves squad who play an Elimination Final on Saturday against Sturt with no doubt a chance of coming into the selected side.
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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

Postby Big Phil » Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:46 pm

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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

Postby sjt » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:31 pm

Big Phil wrote:
Thiele wrote:Sorry to intrude dog supporters but is Caleb Edmead still playing for the dogs


Thiele, he played a fair bit of reserves this year and then about 2 months ago he got concused from memory. Couldn't really find the form that saw him playing reserves but he has been playing Under 18's the last few weeks and in fact was named in the best 3 players for Central's Under 18's against North last weekend.

Would still be training with the reserves squad who play an Elimination Final on Saturday against Sturt with no doubt a chance of coming into the selected side.


I'm pretty sure all the above is correct. He also got reported earlier in the year, I believe, for verbal labuse to an umpire, cost him one game and possibly his spot in the reserves after hs suspension .He has had problems with concussion. In one game this year, don't know who against, he was king hit behind play.
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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

Postby Big Phil » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:58 pm

After a BOG performance in the Under 18's for Central last week Thiele, Caleb Edmead is named in the Reserves squad of 24 for their Elimination Final tomorrow at Alberton.
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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

Postby whufc » Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:54 pm

Another week of and another lot of discussion points.

Now that we know Sutherland and Hayes will be available do people think there will be any changes?

Both Hayes and Havelberg looked very much short of run against Norwood and were probably the Dogs two worse players on the day, and tall only key forwards on the day as well.

Thomas Dunne should be fit this week and may even play reserves, could he force his way into the league?

A bag of goals to Damien Hynes would definatly put pressure on Lairdy with Havelberg who is short on match fitness, out of form and probably still not 100% fit?

Reichart is the other bloke who may come into the side depending on who the opponent is and whether or not Templeton will be right in a fortnights time.
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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

Postby Grahaml » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:34 am

Only change I can realistically imagine is Hynes in for Havelberg if he doesn't come up. Hayes will be ok, another fortnight on the track with a game under his belt, with his experience and versatility I don't have a problem with him having a poor second semi. Ditto Havelberg if he's able to get the hammy right. I thought Dunne was probably on the cusp anyway with Spurr and Gowans coming back in. Habel played pretty well I thought, was probably the other. His game has often been plagued by decision errors but he was much better on Sunday. Not as prolific in terms of posessions, but I'd rather 12 very good touches than 22 poor ones.
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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

Postby CENTURION » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:42 am

Grahaml wrote:Only change I can realistically imagine is Hynes in for Havelberg if he doesn't come up. Hayes will be ok, another fortnight on the track with a game under his belt, with his experience and versatility I don't have a problem with him having a poor second semi. Ditto Havelberg if he's able to get the hammy right. I thought Dunne was probably on the cusp anyway with Spurr and Gowans coming back in. Habel played pretty well I thought, was probably the other. His game has often been plagued by decision errors but he was much better on Sunday. Not as prolific in terms of posessions, but I'd rather 12 very good touches than 22 poor ones.

I would rather have Hynes play all game & kick 1 or 2 goals & contest every contest, than risk Havelberg again, only for Him to get injured & then We are 1 man down.
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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

Postby whufc » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:17 am

Grahaml wrote:Only change I can realistically imagine is Hynes in for Havelberg if he doesn't come up. Hayes will be ok, another fortnight on the track with a game under his belt, with his experience and versatility I don't have a problem with him having a poor second semi. Ditto Havelberg if he's able to get the hammy right. I thought Dunne was probably on the cusp anyway with Spurr and Gowans coming back in. Habel played pretty well I thought, was probably the other. His game has often been plagued by decision errors but he was much better on Sunday. Not as prolific in terms of posessions, but I'd rather 12 very good touches than 22 poor ones.


Agree, i thought Habel did enough to hold his spot. Every after match pressos for the last month Lairdy has said numerous times how excited they are to have Habels pace in the side come finals so i think Lairdy has almost pencilled him in.

As Centuuuuwian said if Havelberg is not 100% fit i would rather see Hynes come into the side, i think it was in 2002 GF where we carried a few to many players who were carrying injuries.
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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

Postby doggies4eva » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:00 am

whufc wrote:Another week of and another lot of discussion points.

Now that we know Sutherland and Hayes will be available do people think there will be any changes?

Both Hayes and Havelberg looked very much short of run against Norwood and were probably the Dogs two worse players on the day, and tall only key forwards on the day as well.

Thomas Dunne should be fit this week and may even play reserves, could he force his way into the league?

A bag of goals to Damien Hynes would definatly put pressure on Lairdy with Havelberg who is short on match fitness, out of form and probably still not 100% fit?

Reichart is the other bloke who may come into the side depending on who the opponent is and whether or not Templeton will be right in a fortnights time.


I agree with all this plus I'd add that Spurr while OK was not at top form having been out for so long. It looked to me that Havelberg was not 100% fit. He missed goals that he normally would have nailed and I suspect that it was because he was hampered by injury. The medical and coaching staff would be well aware of this and doing everything they can to get him up for 9 October.
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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

Postby RB » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:19 am

doggies4eva wrote:
whufc wrote:Another week of and another lot of discussion points.

Now that we know Sutherland and Hayes will be available do people think there will be any changes?

Both Hayes and Havelberg looked very much short of run against Norwood and were probably the Dogs two worse players on the day, and tall only key forwards on the day as well.

Thomas Dunne should be fit this week and may even play reserves, could he force his way into the league?

A bag of goals to Damien Hynes would definatly put pressure on Lairdy with Havelberg who is short on match fitness, out of form and probably still not 100% fit?

Reichart is the other bloke who may come into the side depending on who the opponent is and whether or not Templeton will be right in a fortnights time.


I agree with all this plus I'd add that Spurr while OK was not at top form having been out for so long. It looked to me that Havelberg was not 100% fit. He missed goals that he normally would have nailed and I suspect that it was because he was hampered by injury. The medical and coaching staff would be well aware of this and doing everything they can to get him up for 9 October.


Havelberg was definitely not 100% fit.
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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

Postby Hazydog » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:52 am

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Grahaml wrote:Only change I can realistically imagine is Hynes in for Havelberg if he doesn't come up. Hayes will be ok, another fortnight on the track with a game under his belt, with his experience and versatility I don't have a problem with him having a poor second semi. Ditto Havelberg if he's able to get the hammy right. I thought Dunne was probably on the cusp anyway with Spurr and Gowans coming back in. Habel played pretty well I thought, was probably the other. His game has often been plagued by decision errors but he was much better on Sunday. Not as prolific in terms of posessions, but I'd rather 12 very good touches than 22 poor ones.

I would rather have Hynes play all game & kick 1 or 2 goals & contest every contest, than risk Havelberg again, only for Him to get injured & then We are 1 man down.


Not sure about that Centurion - I agree that Hynes is more than capable of coming in and doing a job, the trouble is his hammies are just as bad as Berger's so it comes down to who is more of a risk on the day I guess.
Would love to see Dunne in the side as well, however cant see who he would replace other than maybe Habel, who I agree has done everything asked of him and deserves his spot.
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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

Postby Grahaml » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:37 pm

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CENTURION wrote:
Grahaml wrote:Only change I can realistically imagine is Hynes in for Havelberg if he doesn't come up. Hayes will be ok, another fortnight on the track with a game under his belt, with his experience and versatility I don't have a problem with him having a poor second semi. Ditto Havelberg if he's able to get the hammy right. I thought Dunne was probably on the cusp anyway with Spurr and Gowans coming back in. Habel played pretty well I thought, was probably the other. His game has often been plagued by decision errors but he was much better on Sunday. Not as prolific in terms of posessions, but I'd rather 12 very good touches than 22 poor ones.

I would rather have Hynes play all game & kick 1 or 2 goals & contest every contest, than risk Havelberg again, only for Him to get injured & then We are 1 man down.


Not sure about that Centurion - I agree that Hynes is more than capable of coming in and doing a job, the trouble is his hammies are just as bad as Berger's so it comes down to who is more of a risk on the day I guess.
Would love to see Dunne in the side as well, however cant see who he would replace other than maybe Habel, who I agree has done everything asked of him and deserves his spot.
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Of course there will be heartbreak. With an unchanged side Dunne would be devastated. If there are changes then anyone dropping out will be heartbroken.

Havelberg 100% fit is a much better forward than Hynes. Even at 90%, he's going to be more effective. This nonsense about not taking injured players in is just that. Every side has blokes who are hurt, carrying something or other. It's a question of whether they're able to perform to a level or not. If Havelberg can create a contest, take a few grabs and kick a couple of goals then I'd pick him. Normally, he's a sensational shot fo goal and would nail those 3 chances he had on Sunday. He does that I give him a pass, so he's really not that far from where he needs to be IMHO.
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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

Postby Hazydog » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:10 pm

On the subject of the Berg - Did I hear Michael Maney say there was a whisper that this might be his final year :shock:
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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

Postby Grahaml » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:23 pm

Hazydog wrote:On the subject of the Berg - Did I hear Michael Maney say there was a whisper that this might be his final year :shock:


I hope not, but his injury struggles must be wearing on him. I'd be happy to see him take a year off to get his body right but he's too good and too young to give league footy away altogether.
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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

Postby jockey » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:22 pm

Grahaml wrote:
Hazydog wrote:On the subject of the Berg - Did I hear Michael Maney say there was a whisper that this might be his final year :shock:


I hope not, but his injury struggles must be wearing on him. I'd be happy to see him take a year off to get his body right but he's too good and too young to give league footy away altogether.



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Re: Bulldog Chat During the Bye Week

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