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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby Dogwatcher » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:32 pm

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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby cargo_art » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:45 pm

Yeah, I would actually.
Because I do now.
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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby CENTURION » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:07 am

cargo_art wrote:
Apachebulldog wrote:Spot on Sojourner i can remember Sturt dominating in the 60's Port dominating in the 50's,70's 80's and 90's but nothing like this 12 years in a row all good things must come to an end sooner or later.



But against what sort of opposition..?
The standard of the game today was terrible..
Okay - you can only beat who's put in front of you, but can you really say that Centrals dominance over the last decade can compare to Sturt's in the 60s, or Port's in the 50s, 80s and 90s?

For **** Sake, not this s**t again!! yes, We can, OK?
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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby Media Park » Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:25 am

CENTURION wrote:
cargo_art wrote:
Apachebulldog wrote:Spot on Sojourner i can remember Sturt dominating in the 60's Port dominating in the 50's,70's 80's and 90's but nothing like this 12 years in a row all good things must come to an end sooner or later.



But against what sort of opposition..?
The standard of the game today was terrible..
Okay - you can only beat who's put in front of you, but can you really say that Centrals dominance over the last decade can compare to Sturt's in the 60s, or Port's in the 50s, 80s and 90s?

For **** Sake, not this shit again!! yes, We can, OK?

Don't like criticism on a "Centrals supporters pulling themselves" thread???
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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby jockey » Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:50 am

Media Park wrote:
CENTURION wrote:
cargo_art wrote:
Apachebulldog wrote:Spot on Sojourner i can remember Sturt dominating in the 60's Port dominating in the 50's,70's 80's and 90's but nothing like this 12 years in a row all good things must come to an end sooner or later.



But against what sort of opposition..?
The standard of the game today was terrible..
Okay - you can only beat who's put in front of you, but can you really say that Centrals dominance over the last decade can compare to Sturt's in the 60s, or Port's in the 50s, 80s and 90s?

For **** Sake, not this shit again!! yes, We can, OK?

Don't like criticism on a "Centrals supporters pulling themselves" thread???

Thats fine, but you could bet, if any other of the 8 sides had had the same dominance we have had over the last 12 years, they would not be spruking the comp isnt the same. they would be loving it up, just as we are.....
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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby Apachebulldog » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:56 am

Cargoart you are wrong this Central phenomenen is even better because of the salary cap its now a level playing field which means all the other clubs should be on par with Central also smaller crowds than previous decades in the old days the clubs like Port Norwood and Sturt were all financially strong and bought the best players they also had strong supporter bases etc etc etc Only one other club has adapted to the new era and that is Woodville/West Torrens so i suggest other clubs go and see what these two clubs are doing if they want to compete and maker Grand Finals.
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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby cargo_art » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:34 pm

Apachebulldog wrote:Cargoart you are wrong this Central phenomenen is even better because of the salary cap its now a level playing field which means all the other clubs should be on par with Central also smaller crowds than previous decades in the old days the clubs like Port Norwood and Sturt were all financially strong and bought the best players they also had strong supporter bases etc etc etc Only one other club has adapted to the new era and that is Woodville/West Torrens so i suggest other clubs go and see what these two clubs are doing if they want to compete and maker Grand Finals.



Your argument is flawed.. How does any of that make Centrals achivements better?
And don't start talking about salary cap - Centrals have been rorting it for years, and then crying poverty when it comes to buying light bulbs for their light towers..

The SANFL is a weak competition now - when the competition was strong - 60's - 1990, Centrals couldn't win a meat raffle.
Now all of a sudden Port Magpies, Sturt, Norwood etc are financially weaker, have suffered a massive player drain over the last 20 years, and only now Centrals have dominated.

Don't go thinking you're better than any of those great era's past - you're playing in a second / third tier feeder competition, with substandard quality of player and opposition.
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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby cargo_art » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:36 pm

Thats fine, but you could bet, if any other of the 8 sides had had the same dominance we have had over the last 12 years, they would not be spruking the comp isnt the same. they would be loving it up, just as we are.....[/quote]


No, we'd be accepting the dominance and GF wins for what they are, and not deluding ourselves into thinking we're better than we really are.
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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby Dissident » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:46 pm

arthur5038 wrote:11 Straight Finals wins

16 straight minor (Non Grand) finals wins

12 straight second semi final wins

Staggering ... and the way they demolished Norwood today ... just staggering.


Your record in preliminary finals is average though, can't win one to save your lives.
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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby once_were_warriors » Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:21 pm

cargo_art wrote:
Apachebulldog wrote:Cargoart you are wrong this Central phenomenen is even better because of the salary cap its now a level playing field which means all the other clubs should be on par with Central also smaller crowds than previous decades in the old days the clubs like Port Norwood and Sturt were all financially strong and bought the best players they also had strong supporter bases etc etc etc Only one other club has adapted to the new era and that is Woodville/West Torrens so i suggest other clubs go and see what these two clubs are doing if they want to compete and maker Grand Finals.



Your argument is flawed.. How does any of that make Centrals achivements better?
And don't start talking about salary cap - Centrals have been rorting it for years, and then crying poverty when it comes to buying light bulbs for their light towers..

The SANFL is a weak competition now - when the competition was strong - 60's - 1990, Centrals couldn't win a meat raffle.
Now all of a sudden Port Magpies, Sturt, Norwood etc are financially weaker, have suffered a massive player drain over the last 20 years, and only now Centrals have dominated.

Don't go thinking you're better than any of those great era's past - you're playing in a second / third tier feeder competition, with substandard quality of player and opposition.



Groundhog Day, this arguement has been used every year and has proved to be without substance.
Dogs as a club have proven to be the best in the history of SANFL in regards to domination of an era in SANFL
Quality of competion has nothing to with it, as I'm sure this era would have beaten quite soundly eras pre 1960.
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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby smac » Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:44 pm

Dissident wrote:
arthur5038 wrote:11 Straight Finals wins

16 straight minor (Non Grand) finals wins

12 straight second semi final wins

Staggering ... and the way they demolished Norwood today ... just staggering.


Your record in preliminary finals is average though, can't win one to save your lives.

Do they still have prelim finals? I remember them from years gone by but figured they weren't around anymore?
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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby cargo_art » Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:48 pm

once_were_warriors wrote:
cargo_art wrote:
Apachebulldog wrote:Cargoart you are wrong this Central phenomenen is even better because of the salary cap its now a level playing field which means all the other clubs should be on par with Central also smaller crowds than previous decades in the old days the clubs like Port Norwood and Sturt were all financially strong and bought the best players they also had strong supporter bases etc etc etc Only one other club has adapted to the new era and that is Woodville/West Torrens so i suggest other clubs go and see what these two clubs are doing if they want to compete and maker Grand Finals.



Your argument is flawed.. How does any of that make Centrals achivements better?
And don't start talking about salary cap - Centrals have been rorting it for years, and then crying poverty when it comes to buying light bulbs for their light towers..

The SANFL is a weak competition now - when the competition was strong - 60's - 1990, Centrals couldn't win a meat raffle.
Now all of a sudden Port Magpies, Sturt, Norwood etc are financially weaker, have suffered a massive player drain over the last 20 years, and only now Centrals have dominated.

Don't go thinking you're better than any of those great era's past - you're playing in a second / third tier feeder competition, with substandard quality of player and opposition.



Groundhog Day, this arguement has been used every year and has proved to be without substance.
Dogs as a club have proven to be the best in the history of SANFL in regards to domination of an era in SANFL
Quality of competion has nothing to with it, as I'm sure this era would have beaten quite soundly eras pre 1960.



The quality of the competition has EVERYTHING to do with it.
Who were Centrals beating in the 70s and 80s??
Themselves maybe, but no one else.
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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby RB » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:01 pm

cargo_art wrote:
once_were_warriors wrote:
cargo_art wrote:
Apachebulldog wrote:Cargoart you are wrong this Central phenomenen is even better because of the salary cap its now a level playing field which means all the other clubs should be on par with Central also smaller crowds than previous decades in the old days the clubs like Port Norwood and Sturt were all financially strong and bought the best players they also had strong supporter bases etc etc etc Only one other club has adapted to the new era and that is Woodville/West Torrens so i suggest other clubs go and see what these two clubs are doing if they want to compete and maker Grand Finals.



Your argument is flawed.. How does any of that make Centrals achivements better?
And don't start talking about salary cap - Centrals have been rorting it for years, and then crying poverty when it comes to buying light bulbs for their light towers..

The SANFL is a weak competition now - when the competition was strong - 60's - 1990, Centrals couldn't win a meat raffle.
Now all of a sudden Port Magpies, Sturt, Norwood etc are financially weaker, have suffered a massive player drain over the last 20 years, and only now Centrals have dominated.

Don't go thinking you're better than any of those great era's past - you're playing in a second / third tier feeder competition, with substandard quality of player and opposition.



Groundhog Day, this arguement has been used every year and has proved to be without substance.
Dogs as a club have proven to be the best in the history of SANFL in regards to domination of an era in SANFL
Quality of competion has nothing to with it, as I'm sure this era would have beaten quite soundly eras pre 1960.



The quality of the competition has EVERYTHING to do with it.
Who were Centrals beating in the 70s and 80s??
Themselves maybe, but no one else.


They weren't too bad. They finished bottom in 1977, but they were minor premiers in 1979. They finished 3rd in '71 and '72, 4th in '84, '88 and '89, and 5th in '82. There were a few 6ths and 7ths, but they were generally fairly competitive, especially @ Elizabeth.
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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby Grahaml » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:06 pm

RB wrote:They weren't too bad. They finished bottom in 1977, but they were minor premiers in 1979. They finished 3rd in '71 and '72, 4th in '84, '88 and '89, and 5th in '82. There were a few 6ths and 7ths, but they were generally fairly competitive, especially @ Elizabeth.


Exactly. Amazing how people seem to forget we were a decent side for a long time before 2000. I suspect people remember our finals record throughout that time and assume it was our overall record. If we were as bad as some would like to think, we'd have rarely made the finals and won several spoons. We've only ever won 2 spoons, one in our very first year!

Regardless, if it's a question of domination then no other side has dominated to the extent we have over the last 12 years. The standard or opposition are irrelevant because it's not a question of how good you are, but how much better you are. It seems some people just don't know what the word domination means.
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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby once_were_warriors » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:08 pm

If you take away financial capacities of clubs in any era and consider that all clubs have the same ability to recruit players ,staff etc then Central win hands down.

If you consider financial capacities and add into the fact we are now in a salary cap compliance era , then their record is even more outstanding as its much more of a level playing field.

Anyway will stop purporting the excellence of the Central Districts football club as my friends and family will consider disowning me.
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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby RB » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:10 pm

Grahaml wrote:
RB wrote:They weren't too bad. They finished bottom in 1977, but they were minor premiers in 1979. They finished 3rd in '71 and '72, 4th in '84, '88 and '89, and 5th in '82. There were a few 6ths and 7ths, but they were generally fairly competitive, especially @ Elizabeth.


Exactly. Amazing how people seem to forget we were a decent side for a long time before 2000. I suspect people remember our finals record throughout that time and assume it was our overall record. If we were as bad as some would like to think, we'd have rarely made the finals and won several spoons. We've only ever won 2 spoons, one in our very first year!

Regardless, if it's a question of domination then no other side has dominated to the extent we have over the last 12 years. The standard or opposition are irrelevant because it's not a question of how good you are, but how much better you are. It seems some people just don't know what the word domination means.


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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:25 pm

So, if we don't celebrate this success, I guess no one from other clubs will celebrate their own when the time comes. And Port supporters certainly didn't celebrate their flags in 95/96 did they?
How about Norwood in 97?
Are South's flags any less relevant from the the 1890s and whenever the hell it was due to the size of the competition, skill of the game? Same can be asked of Norwood.
I wouldn't knock any of those successes but I guess it depends on what your own agenda is.
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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby doggies4eva » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:26 pm

I wish you doggies supporters would keep your head down until after the GF.

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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:31 pm

I'm taking nothing for granted.
But whether others like it or not, a 12th consecutive GF is something to be proud of.
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Re: The Doggernaut Keeps on Rolling.

Postby Zorro » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:44 pm

smac wrote:
Dissident wrote:
arthur5038 wrote:11 Straight Finals wins

16 straight minor (Non Grand) finals wins

12 straight second semi final wins

Staggering ... and the way they demolished Norwood today ... just staggering.


Your record in preliminary finals is average though, can't win one to save your lives.

Do they still have prelim finals? I remember them from years gone by but figured they weren't around anymore?


Figured they weren't around? How else do you think other clubs earn the right to lose to Centrals in the GF?
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