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Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby heater31 » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:43 pm

smac wrote:You've just agreed with me!

A 12 year doesn't build an innings in any type of cricket! Why not give them two shots at bat in a day by playing two matches in one day? I'm not saying every week, not even every second week. But why not change up their season and give them a T20 round?

Talented cricketers can then be put into development programs to work on developing an innings.

And I speak with the coach you refer to often!



That 2 chances in a day is a flawed argument. How does that teach kids to value their wicket when batting??? All that does is teach them not to give a toss as they will always have the afternoon game to have another shot :roll:

You can't teach the other batting techniques Bulls speaks of without putting a price on your wicket.
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Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby Media Park » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:58 pm

T20 should be very much a specialist format, for the best of the best.

You cannot learn value for your wicket, or genuine cricket shots, in an innings that lasts 120 balls for the team.

Slogs, reverse sweeps, ramp shots- the only players that play these consistently well, are the best of the best.

Your Warner-type slogger will have sporadic success, but will not dominate consistently (see Shahid Afridi and the amount of Tests he played versus short form).

The skills needed to adapt to this format can only truly be learned by playing the longer forms, as you can build an innings, wait for the right ball to play these ass clown shots to, and once they know them, then they can manipulate the field to make those shots work for them.

Try it in a T20 for the first time, stuff it up, and the games over... And you have to try these shots in that format, because you have to score... Four or five day game, different story...

Nic Maddinson is looked at as a future international. Because of what? It would be his long, impressive first class innings, not a Warner-like slog or two.
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Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby Bulls forever » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:52 pm

smac wrote:You've just agreed with me!

A 12 year doesn't build an innings in any type of cricket! Why not give them two shots at bat in a day by playing two matches in one day? I'm not saying every week, not even every second week. But why not change up their season and give them a T20 round?

Talented cricketers can then be put into development programs to work on developing an innings.

And I speak with the coach you refer to often!


Far from it SMAC, I could not disagree more. Irrespective of what we try and teach kids, they want to do well at what they do and they also want to win. A 12 year old should be taught how to build an innings by their coach, irrespective of whether School, Club or Grade level. We want all 12 year olds to have that chance, not just the ones the your High Performance Program think are worthy of being taught the correct way. I shudder when I heard what you said. All underage selectors have been proved wrong numerous times when they try and pidgeon hole players as future High Performance players. Just to name a few players that SACA have got wrong, Haberfield, Cranmer, Brown, Delmont, Moffatt, Harford. I could go on, but rather pointless. I really can't believe you made the above statement.
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Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby smac » Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:03 pm

And they all will - I'm talking about a round or two of T20 in a season.
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Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby Bulls forever » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:36 pm

smac wrote:And they all will - I'm talking about a round or two of T20 in a season.


SMAC, as I understand it now, your role along with the other Development Officers is community cricket and satisfy the KPI's of participation rates. That is what came from the Australian Sports Commission Report and Grade Clubs can only rely on names being passed onto them for their underage squads. Take your 20/20 into school and community cricket where they are probably necessary for participation rates, but leave them out of what the grade clubs bottom line is and that is to develop Australian Test Cricketers. You don't develop test cricketers from letting them play slap and tickle cricket (to quote Reb).
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Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby smac » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:59 am

Do try and keep my job out of it. I am entitled to my own opinion.

How is developing test cricketers going for South Australia? Time to try new things perhaps?
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Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby drifter » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:27 am

on another topic, does anyone know when the cut off point for signing players close ?
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Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby Brodlach » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:05 am

drifter wrote:on another topic, does anyone know when the cut off point for signing players close ?



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Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby Goat Herder » Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:05 pm

Bulls forever wrote:
smac wrote:You've just agreed with me!

A 12 year doesn't build an innings in any type of cricket! Why not give them two shots at bat in a day by playing two matches in one day? I'm not saying every week, not even every second week. But why not change up their season and give them a T20 round?

Talented cricketers can then be put into development programs to work on developing an innings.

And I speak with the coach you refer to often!


Far from it SMAC, I could not disagree more. Irrespective of what we try and teach kids, they want to do well at what they do and they also want to win. A 12 year old should be taught how to build an innings by their coach, irrespective of whether School, Club or Grade level. We want all 12 year olds to have that chance, not just the ones the your High Performance Program think are worthy of being taught the correct way. I shudder when I heard what you said. All underage selectors have been proved wrong numerous times when they try and pidgeon hole players as future High Performance players. Just to name a few players that SACA have got wrong, Haberfield, Cranmer, Brown, Delmont, Moffatt, Harford. I could go on, but rather pointless. I really can't believe you made the above statement.


Couldn't agree more. You need the 'bricks & mortar' before you can start being creative. :roll:
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Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby Ron Burgundy » Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:15 pm

And if you don't have the bricks and mortar, wind up, close your eyes, and swing hard.
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Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby Footy Smart » Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:46 pm

Goat Herder wrote:
Bulls forever wrote:
smac wrote:You've just agreed with me!

A 12 year doesn't build an innings in any type of cricket! Why not give them two shots at bat in a day by playing two matches in one day? I'm not saying every week, not even every second week. But why not change up their season and give them a T20 round?

Talented cricketers can then be put into development programs to work on developing an innings.

And I speak with the coach you refer to often!


Far from it SMAC, I could not disagree more. Irrespective of what we try and teach kids, they want to do well at what they do and they also want to win. A 12 year old should be taught how to build an innings by their coach, irrespective of whether School, Club or Grade level. We want all 12 year olds to have that chance, not just the ones the your High Performance Program think are worthy of being taught the correct way. I shudder when I heard what you said. All underage selectors have been proved wrong numerous times when they try and pidgeon hole players as future High Performance players. Just to name a few players that SACA have got wrong, Haberfield, Cranmer, Brown, Delmont, Moffatt, Harford. I could go on, but rather pointless. I really can't believe you made the above statement.


Couldn't agree more. You need the 'bricks & mortar' before you can start being creative. :roll:


As a skipper of a very young side the last few years, and playing that horrid 20/20 comp last season im glad it got the ass. All the other skippers/players hated it. I had a number of young blokes not powerful enough to bomb balls and/or rotate the strike enough against better bowlers. These kids are techniqually sound yet had to resort to un orthadox strokes to score.... Often resulting in them getting out and feeling as though they have let the side down. Confidence goes and form slumps set in!

The High Performance group has long failed at SACA otherwise there would have been more 'home grown' talent developed and playing for SA as we speak.
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Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby tnt » Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:15 am

Can anyone confirm that they are making Members pay Extra to see the Domestic T20 Comp this year. Have heard this is happening but i cant believe it!
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Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby Media Park » Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:18 am

Surely not!
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Re: Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby heater31 » Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:21 am

tnt wrote:Can anyone confirm that they are making Members pay Extra to see the Domestic T20 Comp this year. Have heard this is happening but i cant believe it!


Ha! I got my membership renewal in the post this week. Good news is that it is cheaper due to the payments recieved. Also got some promotional crap for this 'new' team, threw it straight in the bin. Certainly won't be going if they want to slug me extra to attend. If true this might cause me to age 40 years instantly and get into letter writing mode!
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Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby smac » Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:54 am

Membership of the South Australian Cricket Association allows you to enter the ground and members enclosure for all International and domestic cricket matches, including Test matches, One Day International matches, KFC Twenty20 International, Weet-Bix Sheffield Shield, Ford Ranger Cup, KFC Twenty20 Big Bash and all finals.

Other priviliges of being a SACA Member include:

The option to purchase a transferable associate card for others to use
The opportunity to bring in up to 5 guests for selected match days
Access to member only dining and catering facilities
The opportunity to attend special member events at the Adelaide Oval
Access to interstate association grounds via reciprocal privileges
Nomination and voting rights for the SACA Board elections and voting at the SACA Annual General Meeting

Perhaps you could age enough to read the material before getting your tits in a tangle?
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Re: Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby heater31 » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:55 am

smac wrote:Perhaps you could age enough to read the material before getting your tits in a tangle?


Already tangled enough with this fabricated competition.....

I will still refuse to attend these matches though
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Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby RHM 17 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:54 am

The strikers about to announce that they have secured a high profile entertainer to perform at 1 of there home games ........hint(rapper)
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Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:18 pm

RHM 17 wrote:The strikers about to announce that they have secured a high profile entertainer to perform at 1 of there home games ........hint(rapper)

'Bandit' from Australias Got Talent? :lol: :P
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Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby RHM 17 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:41 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
RHM 17 wrote:The strikers about to announce that they have secured a high profile entertainer to perform at 1 of there home games ........hint(rapper)

'Bandit' from Australias Got Talent? :lol: :P



NOT
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Re: Adelaide Strikers

Postby RHM 17 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:48 pm

RHM 17 wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:
RHM 17 wrote:The strikers about to announce that they have secured a high profile entertainer to perform at 1 of there home games ........hint(rapper)

'Bandit' from Australias Got Talent? :lol: :P



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