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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby Big Phil » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:23 pm

Jim05 wrote:Need confirmation, but was speaking to a Norwood official who reckons Rodan is up to 3 now. Apparantly because he was named for the Power but left out at last moment it counts as a game. He was led to believe that if an AFL player is not injured but is left out of the squad, he doesnt have to play SANFL or ressies to be still counted as a game. Be interested to find out the correct rule


I don't think there is a specific rule for this situation but there is a precident in that Central got Stuart Cochrane qualified for SANFL finals in the mid 2000's where he was in a similar scenario to Rodan. From memory, Stuart only played 2 games (back then the required game tally was 3) and he was a travelling emergency one week and left on the standbye the next, not to play any football at all until being permitted by the league to participate in Central's finals campaign.

Like with all players qualified, they still need permission granted to play by their respective AFL clubs. The Rodan scenario is an interesting one as he has had the 2nd LARS surgery on the knee and hasn't really dominated a game since then, so perhaps the Power will want him to not risk it and get the mind and body right for a full pre-season over the summer? Who knows, but time will tell.
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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby Jim05 » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:32 pm

If that is true BP, i have him at 4 games then. The week we played South he was left out of Port side and didnt play for us either. The whispers are that Rodan is another that is out of favour at Alberton and he will be sent back to Norwood for a few weeks. I think Port have 5 or 6 returning this week so cant see him making the cut
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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby Big Phil » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:35 pm

Jim05 wrote:If that is true BP, i have him at 4 games then. The week we played South he was left out of Port side and didnt play for us either. The whispers are that Rodan is another that is out of favour at Alberton and he will be sent back to Norwood for a few weeks. I think Port have 5 or 6 returning this week so cant see him making the cut


Like I said Jim, time will tell and these players still have to be given the approval to play, qualified or not.

Will add another dimension to the Norwood footy club come finals should Rodan qualify and be allowed to play, although it would suck to be a Dylan Reinbrecht or Tim Webber as they may be forced out of the side to accommodate Rodan?
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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby Jim05 » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:54 pm

Big Phil wrote:
Jim05 wrote:If that is true BP, i have him at 4 games then. The week we played South he was left out of Port side and didnt play for us either. The whispers are that Rodan is another that is out of favour at Alberton and he will be sent back to Norwood for a few weeks. I think Port have 5 or 6 returning this week so cant see him making the cut


Like I said Jim, time will tell and these players still have to be given the approval to play, qualified or not.

Will add another dimension to the Norwood footy club come finals should Rodan qualify and be allowed to play, although it would suck to be a Dylan Reinbrecht or Tim Webber as they may be forced out of the side to accommodate Rodan?

My understanding is that even without Rodan one of these guys will miss out.
I doubt Port will let him play finals anyway, was just trying to find out the ruling, Thanks
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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby Grahaml » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:58 am

Surely after the Stuart Cochrane business the SANFL made the rules 100% clear so there would never be any confusion again. Therefore I'd expect if Norwood feel Rodan is up to 3 or 4 games or whatever they should be on the money. Either way though, I'm sure he won't front for finals. Would be desperate for a full and productive AFL preseason and really has little to gain from SANFL finals.
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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby CUTTERMAN » Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:04 am

fish wrote:Where's Sturt! :lol:

Apparently we don't exist, even though we can still make finals.
FWIW. I would think that Brodie Martin and Aiden Riley would qualify, Richard Tambling may be on 3-4 games. Jaensch's year is done. Danyle Pearce 2 I think.
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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby Madrooster » Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:49 am

If a player qualifies for SANFL finals does his AFL club have to allow him to play? I just wonder if the Crows for example were concerned about the risk of Gunston getting injured if they are able to refuse him permission to play?

Personally I believe that if they qualify they should be playing as the SANFL side has aided in that players development through the year and deserves recognition.
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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby CUTTERMAN » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:33 pm

AFL clubs have the right to decide what their players do concerning SANFL finals.
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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby JK » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:39 pm

Grahaml wrote:Surely after the Stuart Cochrane business the SANFL made the rules 100% clear so there would never be any confusion again. Therefore I'd expect if Norwood feel Rodan is up to 3 or 4 games or whatever they should be on the money. Either way though, I'm sure he won't front for finals. Would be desperate for a full and productive AFL preseason and really has little to gain from SANFL finals.


Thats right. Last round does NOT count as a game for Rodan, and even if he were to qualify there would only be perhaps a %5 chance he or the Power, would allow him to play SANFL finals ... Not gonna happen.
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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby Apachebulldog » Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:49 pm

Why have the Crows and Power the right ??? its quite OK to play AFL players in the SANFL home and away games from week to week but something magical happens when its SANFL finalS time they are not allowed to play because they may get injured I THOUGHT ANY TIME YOU DONNED THE BOOTS ON YOU ARE PRONE TO INJURY DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!
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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby sjt » Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:22 pm

Nutta's played as many games with Central's as the Crows this year. Play him at Woodville this week. [-o<
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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby sjt » Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:44 pm

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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby CUTTERMAN » Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:21 pm

Apachebulldog wrote:Why have the Crows and Power the right ??? its quite OK to play AFL players in the SANFL home and away games from week to week but something magical happens when its SANFL finalS time they are not allowed to play because they may get injured I THOUGHT ANY TIME YOU DONNED THE BOOTS ON YOU ARE PRONE TO INJURY DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!

There's many reasons, the AFL clubs pay the players so they get to decide. Maybe the player doesn't want to or doesn't want go push another player out that HAS played all year. The player is to undergo surgery at seasons end. The player and club wants them to focus on a full un hampered pre season. The player wants to be traded and doesn't want anything to affect his chances..........
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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby HOORAY PUNT » Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:47 pm

I might have missed this but why is it only 3 games required to qualify as a Rookie ?
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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby Dutchy » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:14 pm

HOORAY PUNT wrote:I might have missed this but why is it only 3 games required to qualify as a Rookie ?


i dont understand why there is a difference if your a rookie or not?
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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:30 pm

It's a strange one. Most of the time rookies would play more SANFL games than AFL.
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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby CUTTERMAN » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:30 pm

Haven't heard about that rule
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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby Hopeful Jelly » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:59 pm

Just regarding a couple of earlier posts:

1. Byes do count towards the 5 games required, regardless of whether the player plays in another reserves team or not.

2. I don't believe Rodan missing out on playing for the Power last week will count towards his 5 games because Norwood actually played the previous week of the split round - ie. last week was not a bye for Norwood. If you use the same logic, Eagles' players like Luke Thompson and Jarrad Redden would clock up 2 games during the split round bye, which is definitely not the case.

FYI, the same used to apply when there was a week off for state games - a few years ago (when 3 games were required for eligibility) I questioned the club as to why Trent Hentschel wasn't playing in finals despite having played one game and being eligible for selection in the team when the Eagles had a bye and the week of the state game. Whilst the bye counted, the state game did not.
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Re: AFL Players Qualification for SANFL Finals

Postby Big Phil » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:07 pm

Hopeful Jelly wrote:Just regarding a couple of earlier posts:

1. Byes do count towards the 5 games required, regardless of whether the player plays in another reserves team or not.


Are you sure that is the case, I thought if they didn't play for the bottom placed reserves side, it doesn't count?

A lot of grey areas and I'm not sure of the rookie ruling, as TSG mentioned, they would usually play a fair bit of SANFL anyway being a rookie listed player?
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Kane Cornes.....QUALIFICATION RUMOUR ONLY

Postby bayman » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:25 pm

i heard a story today that kane cornes' match at norwood when port pulled him out & then didn't play for them either, doesn't qualify as an sanfl game (i thought it did, just like the 'travelling emergency'' does)...the story went onto say that glenelg are appealing this......


so does anyone know what the rules are & how much truth is in this rumour ?
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