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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby Jim05 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:44 am

Cant believe the guys defending Healy, the guy was a dud coach who graduated from the Trevor Hill academy of coaches. North are playing a far better style of football and it does take a while for a new coach to exorcise the demons of a previous poor regime. Bass took nearly a quarter of a season to get the Legs to stop playing a crap style and I reckon Francou is heading in the right direction. Norths recruiters need to lift their game next season and add a couple of key personnel and North will be back amongst the finals
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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby Agile » Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:49 am

Ian wrote:
ftandsq wrote:Too keep bagging Healy is just a joke.


It was a Centrals supporter that asked the question, the replies could also bee seen as stick up for Francou rather than bagging Healy

Could not make it to the game yesterday but had mates ringing me at all breaks and at the end and all thought that the side played like crap for most of the day. The question re Healy by a Centrals supporter opens raw wounds for Roosters fans that have regularly gone to the footy for years. NORTH PLAYED A CRAP STYLE OF FOOTY UNDER HEALY !!!!!!!! EVERY F&^$N WEEK ALMOST.

But we finished further up the ladder under him and that is a reflection of the standard of the SANFL rising IMO. The other teams have improved and we are on the improve. Its halvf way through the FIRST YEAR under a new coach who has never coached at anywhere near this level before.

I can tell you that I would have joined Wedgie and agree .
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Dogwatcher wrote:Francou - Healy?


Not even close.

Healy will rate up there with Flynn, Hart and McDermott for the worse coaches of North ever, Francou won't be close.
Don't get me wrong, I was never a Josh Francou fan and copped a bit from fellow North supporters for my attitude of Josh when he was at the Power but I've seen more millions more encouraging signs in the last 3 months than the 2 years when Healy sent us backwards.

Don't get me wrong, Healy was a respectable nice bloke.
Just a terrible coach.
For his sake I hope there's always a "Power" in SA so he can get a job.

Francou made (or didn't make) some moves that didn't impress me today but believe me (in someone that goes most if not every week) we're miles in front of where we were in the last 2 years.

If Healy had kept coaching (and I know this sounds pathetic) I think I would have stopped going to the SANFL, it was revoltingly awful. He should be sued for bringing the game into disrepute.

Healy and Francou are no comparison.
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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:50 am

ftandsq wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:No one is a bad as Healy. Hopefully he gets the job at the Dogs one day. ;)

Too keep bagging Healy is just a joke. Keep hearing this "Oh were losing but playing a better style of footy" what a disgraceful comment. How many finals games can be played by losing all year but saying we play a good style! I have nothing against Josh and hope he goes well, but the carry on about all the Healy damage is just a crock.Think the problem at Prospect might be deeper!

I would gladly stop bagging Healy, but his name keeps coming up.
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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:09 am

Sorry guys, the question wasn't meant to open wounds.
With North hitting bottom, was wondering if earlier season assessments on the progression under Francou had changed.
You've all said it's a better style of play, how so?
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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby CENTURION » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:17 am

What I want to know is, why didn't Healy try to coach North to play like He did at Centrals?
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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby locky801 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:18 am

Dogwatcher wrote:Sorry guys, the question wasn't meant to open wounds.
With North hitting bottom, was wondering if earlier season assessments on the progression under Francou had changed.
You've all said it's a better style of play, how so?



They actually kick and run the ball forward, not backwards or sideways for a start ;)
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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby CENTURION » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:20 am

locky801 wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Sorry guys, the question wasn't meant to open wounds.
With North hitting bottom, was wondering if earlier season assessments on the progression under Francou had changed.
You've all said it's a better style of play, how so?



They actually kick and run the ball forward, not backwards or sideways for a start ;)

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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby ftandsq » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:29 am

locky801 wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Sorry guys, the question wasn't meant to open wounds.
With North hitting bottom, was wondering if earlier season assessments on the progression under Francou had changed.
You've all said it's a better style of play, how so?



They actually kick and run the ball forward, not backwards or sideways for a start ;)

Yes it would suck to play a modern style of football wouldn't it. (not saying North did it well) but they had to learn it and were gettting better. How many times does Centrals kick straight down the ground from where the ball just come from?
Keep living in the 80's North, your board is!
Amazing for such a bad coach as you all say, that all the players loved him and wanted him to stay! But you guys would no better than them I suppose.
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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby CENTURION » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:30 am

yes, Thomas & Sansbury have perfected the art of going backwards & sideways, so long as you keep going & run through lines afterwards.
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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby tipper » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:33 am

Dogwatcher wrote:Sorry guys, the question wasn't meant to open wounds.
With North hitting bottom, was wondering if earlier season assessments on the progression under Francou had changed.
You've all said it's a better style of play, how so?


personally i think it is a massive change in mindset. North now seem to want to take the opposition on, they have a go (most weeks anyway) and every game i have seen they have been competitive, and a real chance of winning. (i havent seen every game though)

under Healey there was way too many occasions that it seemed it was more about minimising the loss, than about trying to win, even when we were in front! the plan seemed to be just "keepings off". if we have the ball, we will win, even if we spend our time with the ball getting it closer to the oppositions goal by kicking sideways and backwards, and then turning it over.....

I actually feel better this season about a loss, than i did last season about a win. so far we are lower on the ladder than last season, but i have more confidence in our side this year than last. they give themselves every opportunity to win, even if it means making some mistakes along the way.
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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby tipper » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:41 am

ftandsq wrote:
locky801 wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Sorry guys, the question wasn't meant to open wounds.
With North hitting bottom, was wondering if earlier season assessments on the progression under Francou had changed.
You've all said it's a better style of play, how so?



They actually kick and run the ball forward, not backwards or sideways for a start ;)

Yes it would suck to play a modern style of football wouldn't it. (not saying North did it well) but they had to learn it and were gettting better. How many times does Centrals kick straight down the ground from where the ball just come from?
Keep living in the 80's North, your board is!
Amazing for such a bad coach as you all say, that all the players loved him and wanted him to stay! But you guys would no better than them I suppose.


Getting better? did you actually watch North under Healey? we were worse in his second year than his first. much worse. i think it wass most certainly the right decision to move Healey on when they did. the only reason you wouldnt agree is if you support another team and liked seeing North go backwards.
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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby Squawk » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:20 am

Jim05 wrote:Cant believe the guys defending Healy, the guy was a dud coach who graduated from the Trevor Hill academy of coaches. North are playing a far better style of football and it does take a while for a new coach to exorcise the demons of a previous poor regime. Bass took nearly a quarter of a season to get the Legs to stop playing a crap style and I reckon Francou is heading in the right direction. Norths recruiters need to lift their game next season and add a couple of key personnel and North will be back amongst the finals


Just to add to that, Bassett and Massie both had coaching stints with u/18s before becoming league coaches. Francou is a freshman. Give him time and things should turn. After all, Fuller and Collins were both given 5 years to turn things around. North has a much better framework of a team than South and West did on their appointments. Norwood arguably had better personnel also.

\Norwood's improvement is also no0t all down to Bassett - a lot of it started when Hill was replaced by Cotton for the last 8 or so games of 2009. Bassett lost the first 4 games of 2010, so it was virtually half a season punctuated by a full pre-season before the tide began to turn at Coopers Stadium.
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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:31 am

ftandsq wrote:
locky801 wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Sorry guys, the question wasn't meant to open wounds.
With North hitting bottom, was wondering if earlier season assessments on the progression under Francou had changed.
You've all said it's a better style of play, how so?



They actually kick and run the ball forward, not backwards or sideways for a start ;)

Yes it would suck to play a modern style of football wouldn't it. (not saying North did it well) but they had to learn it and were gettting better. How many times does Centrals kick straight down the ground from where the ball just come from?
Keep living in the 80's North, your board is!
Amazing for such a bad coach as you all say, that all the players loved him and wanted him to stay! But you guys would no better than them I suppose.

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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby on the rails » Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:54 pm

ftandsq wrote: Yes it would suck to play a modern style of football wouldn't it. (not saying North did it well) but they had to learn it and were gettting better. How many times does Centrals kick straight down the ground from where the ball just come from?
Keep living in the 80's North, your board is!
Amazing for such a bad coach as you all say, that all the players loved him and wanted him to stay! But you guys would no better than them I suppose.


Nice and from a West Adelaide supporter no less. If North are living in the 80's - what decade (or century) are West living in?
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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby Adam4 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:30 pm

tipper wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Sorry guys, the question wasn't meant to open wounds.
With North hitting bottom, was wondering if earlier season assessments on the progression under Francou had changed.
You've all said it's a better style of play, how so?


personally i think it is a massive change in mindset. North now seem to want to take the opposition on, they have a go (most weeks anyway) and every game i have seen they have been competitive, and a real chance of winning. (i havent seen every game though)

I actually feel better this season about a loss, than i did last season about a win. so far we are lower on the ladder than last season, but i have more confidence in our side this year than last. they give themselves every opportunity to win, even if it means making some mistakes along the way.


I agree, at least we are watching and enjoying a competitive game and you can see the team is trying as a team. My only problem is this lard-butt near by who keeps abusing our (his too but you wouldn't think so) own players when they are fighting hard for the ball (yes some mistakes do happen).

I notice Westies coach not happy about even/fair umpiring. I have seen the same crap 2 weeks in a row. I do not have trouble with an interpretation, so long it is the same for all and that is where umpiring is coming un-stuck and destroying the game, causes frustration and angry players - result cheap shots, and DOES affect the outcome of the game.
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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby CUTTERMAN » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:13 pm

Enough of this petty North and Centrals whining!
HOW WERE THOSE MIGHTY STURT YOUNGLINGS!
WHAT A GUTSY WIN, WOOHOOOOOO!!!!!
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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby Agile » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:29 pm

CUTTERMAN wrote:Enough of this petty North and Centrals whining!
HOW WERE THOSE MIGHTY STURT YOUNGLINGS!
WHAT A GUTSY WIN, WOOHOOOOOO!!!!!
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Wasn't at the game, first home game missed this year, but by all reports Sturt back won the game by negating all North gun forwards. Also if Sturt had kicked straight by the look of things would have won easy. Is this a true reflection of the game? We were at Unley and the reverse was true from memory. North should have won easy if they had kicked straight and looked to control the game all day except for Digger at FF. Thoughts?
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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby DKL » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:48 pm

I think Francou is the man to take the Roosters forward. Have had trouble with Sturt this year, especially with their big forwards in particularly Dulbig
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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby Jimmy » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:59 pm

DKL wrote:I think Francou is the man to take the Roosters forward. Have had trouble with Sturt this year, especially with their big forwards in particularly Dulbig


that should be singular...we only have one big forward and he has the turning circle, agility and speed of the QE2! :lol:

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Re: Sturt v North Adelaide Post Match Review

Postby o five » Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:49 pm

Well done Sturt.
North are a ******* joke and are testing the patience of even the most loyal supporters at the club :evil:
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