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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby topsywaldron » Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:24 pm

When were the AFL appointed to run football in Australia? Genuine question.

I think you'll find Rnb that a greater percentage is paid upfront but it's less overall. This being despite there never being more money in the game. Go figure.

As for Barto's point, I'd love to know the total wage bill at AFL Headquarters, it'd be terrifying. I remember once Plugger getting nearly a quarter a million dollars a year to act as an AFL ambassador in NSW for very little actual work. Throw in all the development officers in footy hotbeds like Cape Town and New Zealand and the fact that as a body the AFL seems awfully top heavy with an executive position for just about everything and I'm guessing the final figure would be a depressing one for people who like footy.
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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby redandblack » Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:38 pm

yes, I think you're probably right on the draft mone, topsy.

As for Barto's point, I'm not defending AFL salaries. I have a problem with the excessive salaries paid to most CEO's of large organisations.

I'll try to find out about the AFL running football question. Good question.
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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby holden78 » Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:16 pm

Sojourner wrote:Very happy we have got Ron as Coach!

Every one at the Eagles are happy you have ron as well :lol:
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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby Macca19 » Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:37 pm

Squawk wrote:Once upon a time, Peter Plus nominated for the draft, LMAO. Also, AFL clubs were allegedly hiding players away in country comps - Ashley McIntosh to the WCE rings a few bells.


Pretty sure McIntosh was a father son pick for the Eagles so it wouldnt have mattered what they did, they had him anyway.
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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby Mickyj » Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:55 pm

holden78 wrote:
Sojourner wrote:Very happy we have got Ron as Coach!

Every one at the Eagles are happy you have ron as well :lol:


Actually everyone at the Eagles is happy when our young players get drafted and play games means more $$$ for the club.
Then when Ron went to south he sent senior players packing to the eagles and dogs .And then Ron and South bought a good seconds player for more money (i believe ) than the club paid for recruits.And yes 1 recruit has gone home.

So end of the day the WWTFC are a happy lot at unleash solar :D Even with all the clubs injuries ;)
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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby Premiers » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:33 pm

My understanding, re boarders at local colleges, is thatThe SANFL deems the college as the residence. Therefore, if an outstanding young footballer living at Clare (Eagles zone) comes down to Adelaide to board at Sacred Heart College, he is deemed to have his residence as Sacred Heart and is tied to Glenelg. This is an unfair advantage to Glenelg (Sacred Heart), Also Norwood (St Peters, PAC, Pembroke), Sturt (Scotch), West (Immanuel) benefit. The losers are South, Port and the Eagles , maybe North, who don't have colleges with boarders. (St Michaels has no boarders). Can someone clarify this rule?
If this rule is correct, it's overdue for correction and to make an even plaing field.
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Re: Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in countr

Postby smac » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:34 pm

Squawk wrote:IIRC you must be registered with a SANFL club to be drafted these days. Once upon a time, Peter Plus nominated for the draft, LMAO. Also, AFL clubs were allegedly hiding players away in country comps - Ashley McIntosh to the WCE rings a few bells.

Wayne Phillips also nominated one year, I think that is when they started putting conditions on nominees.
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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby redandblack » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:36 pm

Premiers wrote:My understanding, re boarders at local colleges, is thatThe SANFL deems the college as the residence. Therefore, if an outstanding young footballer living at Clare (Eagles zone) comes down to Adelaide to board at Sacred Heart College, he is deemed to have his residence as Sacred Heart and is tied to Glenelg. This is an unfair advantage to Glenelg (Sacred Heart), Also Norwood (St Peters, PAC, Pembroke), Sturt (Scotch), West (Immanuel) benefit. The losers are South, Port and the Eagles , maybe North, who don't have colleges with boarders. (St Michaels has no boarders). Can someone clarify this rule?
If this rule is correct, it's overdue for correction and to make an even plaing field.


I'll try to find out, Premiers, but I'd be very surprised if that was true.
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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby redandblack » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:38 pm

I think most players would be registered with their club before coming to college in Adelaide?
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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby Squawk » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:45 pm

Premiers wrote:My understanding, re boarders at local colleges, is thatThe SANFL deems the college as the residence. Therefore, if an outstanding young footballer living at Clare (Eagles zone) comes down to Adelaide to board at Sacred Heart College, he is deemed to have his residence as Sacred Heart and is tied to Glenelg. This is an unfair advantage to Glenelg (Sacred Heart), Also Norwood (St Peters, PAC, Pembroke), Sturt (Scotch), West (Immanuel) benefit. The losers are South, Port and the Eagles , maybe North, who don't have colleges with boarders. (St Michaels has no boarders). Can someone clarify this rule?
If this rule is correct, it's overdue for correction and to make an even plaing field.


Not so, I dont think. I'm reliably told that North has been arranging for players to board at PAC, for example.
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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby tigerpie » Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:04 pm

boarders must play for the club they are zoned to...so if you are from south east you play at glenelg.upper north you play for north...eyre peninsula you play for port and so on.its not the adress of the school thats for sure.
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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby heater31 » Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:12 pm

tigerpie wrote:boarders must play for the club they are zoned to...so if you are from south east you play at glenelg.upper north you play for north...eyre peninsula you play for port and so on.its not the adress of the school thats for sure.



unless their zone does not want them. Cam Hitchcock is the most recent example, zoned to Port but not wanted so Glenelg got on to him via Sacred Heart
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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby Squawk » Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:21 pm

tigerpie wrote:boarders must play for the club they are zoned to...so if you are from south east you play at glenelg.upper north you play for north...eyre peninsula you play for port and so on.its not the adress of the school thats for sure.


Yeah, imagine how many boarders from PAC and SPSC etc would be playing for Norwood, if that was the case. :evil:
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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby Pseudo » Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:33 pm

A few years back the Eagles had a player from Sacred Heart who received permission from the school to play with the Eagles. Forget the name, only that it was the son of a former Torrens player. So there was at least one SHC kid who wasn't forced to play with the Bays. Pretty sure he wasn't a boarder either. Anyone want to fill in the gaps?
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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby tigerpie » Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:44 pm

Pseudo wrote:A few years back the Eagles had a player from Sacred Heart who received permission from the school to play with the Eagles. Forget the name, only that it was the son of a former Torrens player. So there was at least one SHC kid who wasn't forced to play with the Bays. Pretty sure he wasn't a boarder either. Anyone want to fill in the gaps?

not sure who that was but its the residential address that determines who they play for,aside from maybe father son rule.and of course if the zoned club doesnt want them,then they can play wherever they wish.
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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:46 pm

heater31 wrote:
tigerpie wrote:boarders must play for the club they are zoned to...so if you are from south east you play at glenelg.upper north you play for north...eyre peninsula you play for port and so on.its not the adress of the school thats for sure.



unless their zone does not want them. Cam Hitchcock is the most recent example, zoned to Port but not wanted so Glenelg got on to him via Sacred Heart


Yet the Power still drafted him. No wonder they are struggling.
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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:50 pm

SANFLnut wrote:I thought Sacred Heart College had the record? Particularly if you apply their ridiculous draftees per participants formula. Interesting to see the size of the catchment of the TAC under 18 clubs compared to our metro SANFL clubs.


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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby Aerie » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:06 pm

Pseudo wrote:A few years back the Eagles had a player from Sacred Heart who received permission from the school to play with the Eagles. Forget the name, only that it was the son of a former Torrens player. So there was at least one SHC kid who wasn't forced to play with the Bays. Pretty sure he wasn't a boarder either. Anyone want to fill in the gaps?


Matthew Pavlich maybe?
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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby smithy » Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:26 pm

topsywaldron wrote:When were the AFL appointed to run football in Australia? Genuine question.

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Good question topsy.
I always wondered what happened to the old NFL governing body.
WHilst it was spineless anyway due to the fact that IIRC out of the 14 voting members, 6 were taken up by the old VFL, 2 SANFL, 2 WAFL, 1 TFL, 1 ACT, 1 NTFL, 1 QFL or thereabouts, I'm not quite sure when it stopped.
It became quite powerless when the Bears and Eagles joined the VFL and seemed to slowly drift away.
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Re: Eagles "most effective developer of AFL talent in country"

Postby Dirko » Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:29 pm

Aerie wrote:
Pseudo wrote:A few years back the Eagles had a player from Sacred Heart who received permission from the school to play with the Eagles. Forget the name, only that it was the son of a former Torrens player. So there was at least one SHC kid who wasn't forced to play with the Bays. Pretty sure he wasn't a boarder either. Anyone want to fill in the gaps?


Matthew Pavlich maybe?


He didn't go to Sacred Heart but Scotty Camporeale was zoned to the Glenelg Zone as a junior and told "not good enough", he moved over to Woodville and the rest is history.
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