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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Slots It Through » Mon May 09, 2011 9:46 am

I have heard Skewes maybe heading to Tasmania.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby the star » Mon May 09, 2011 3:19 pm

Footy Smart wrote:
the star wrote:Is there a big competition shakeup on the cards for grade cricket? My information is a new four team contracted players super league competition will take shape next season



How does the structure work Star?



from my understanding there will be 4 'super' teams. in all about 50ish contracted players to play in the new league, players will be paid, how much i am unaware (yes vote-18million back into grass roots cricket). they wont play for their club sides is the word i have been given and will play more to the first class rules, re overs and no compulsory declaration etc i am only assuming this means they may train a bit more aswell. if this is the case i guess this will weaking the 'a grade' (obviously) but a grade will now not be as important and players will have to push to get into super league.
i wonder what this may mean with turf clubs having a few more $$$ if some grade clubs may die off if my information is correct
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby C Horse » Mon May 09, 2011 4:49 pm

Slots It Through wrote:I have heard Skewes maybe heading to Tasmania.


Don't think so.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Footy Smart » Tue May 10, 2011 12:16 pm

Ben Cameron has been appointed coach of TTGDCC for season 2011/12. Peter Sleep announced at presentation night that he would be having a break from coaching cricket.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Footy Smart » Tue May 10, 2011 1:42 pm

the star wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:
the star wrote:Is there a big competition shakeup on the cards for grade cricket? My information is a new four team contracted players super league competition will take shape next season



How does the structure work Star?



from my understanding there will be 4 'super' teams. in all about 50ish contracted players to play in the new league, players will be paid, how much i am unaware (yes vote-18million back into grass roots cricket). they wont play for their club sides is the word i have been given and will play more to the first class rules, re overs and no compulsory declaration etc i am only assuming this means they may train a bit more aswell. if this is the case i guess this will weaking the 'a grade' (obviously) but a grade will now not be as important and players will have to push to get into super league.
i wonder what this may mean with turf clubs having a few more $$$ if some grade clubs may die off if my information is correct


Positives and negatives with this set up. What if the player doesnt want to play for a team that means nothing to them? (if they dont intend to play State Cricket). If some clubs go under alot of talent will be lost to turf clubs and never reach their full potential IMO.

The standard of players that arent playing 'super league' will be considerably reduced as say (purely hypothetical) ND, Kensies and Sturt loose 7 players from there A grade squad and TTG, ETand PA only loose 2. ND, Kensies and Sturt will become whipping boys for the grade comp and the overall standard drops as a result. The next crop of super league cricketers is worse of and they will take time to make it at the next level.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Footy Smart » Tue May 10, 2011 2:14 pm

Smac you know all, is this super league going to go ahead?
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Shark_Hunter » Tue May 10, 2011 2:52 pm

Footy Smart wrote:
the star wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:
the star wrote:Is there a big competition shakeup on the cards for grade cricket? My information is a new four team contracted players super league competition will take shape next season



How does the structure work Star?



from my understanding there will be 4 'super' teams. in all about 50ish contracted players to play in the new league, players will be paid, how much i am unaware (yes vote-18million back into grass roots cricket). they wont play for their club sides is the word i have been given and will play more to the first class rules, re overs and no compulsory declaration etc i am only assuming this means they may train a bit more aswell. if this is the case i guess this will weaking the 'a grade' (obviously) but a grade will now not be as important and players will have to push to get into super league.
i wonder what this may mean with turf clubs having a few more $$$ if some grade clubs may die off if my information is correct


Positives and negatives with this set up. What if the player doesnt want to play for a team that means nothing to them? (if they dont intend to play State Cricket). If some clubs go under alot of talent will be lost to turf clubs and never reach their full potential IMO.

The standard of players that arent playing 'super league' will be considerably reduced as say (purely hypothetical) ND, Kensies and Sturt loose 7 players from there A grade squad and TTG, ETand PA only loose 2. ND, Kensies and Sturt will become whipping boys for the grade comp and the overall standard drops as a result. The next crop of super league cricketers is worse of and they will take time to make it at the next level.


From what I hear the "Super League" is still very much in its infancy and it will not happen next season as there are many issues still to be ironed out.

They are current looking at some of the bylaws and playing conditions. There is a push for more 2 day cricket while The 1-day and T20 comps will be separate. There is unlikely to be T20 games in B, C or D grades. B grade may move back to mirror A grade playing hours while compulsory declaration at 90 overs in the A grade is to be reviewed.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Footy Smart » Tue May 10, 2011 3:33 pm

From what I hear the "Super League" is still very much in its infancy and it will not happen next season as there are many issues still to be ironed out.

They are current looking at some of the bylaws and playing conditions. There is a push for more 2 day cricket while The 1-day and T20 comps will be separate. There is unlikely to be T20 games in B, C or D grades. B grade may move back to mirror A grade playing hours while compulsory declaration at 90 overs in the A grade is to be reviewed


The 20/20 games at B,C,D level are useless and 2 in one day is laughable! I was playing B grade when the playing hours were changed and the players hated it, myself included. So changing that back would be good IMO.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Bag The Points » Tue May 10, 2011 6:24 pm

agree whole-heartedly, FS. What I found completely ridiculous was the "double twenty/20'" when regular One-Dayer has more total overs anyway (50 each).
Now while we're at it, I hope they chuck the colts T2O's straight into the River Torrens as well.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby buulsroar » Tue May 10, 2011 8:19 pm

Footy Smart wrote:Ben Cameron has been appointed coach of TTGDCC for season 2011/12. Peter Sleep announced at presentation night that he would be having a break from coaching cricket.


Very good appointment in my opinion. Ben has made no secret of his desire to coach the Bulls one day.
He will bring some refreshing ideas to training which hopefully will produce results during matches.

Good luck Camo.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby oldeagle » Tue May 10, 2011 9:27 pm

Interesting use of a social networking site by a new coach to reach out to young players south & west of the CBD.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby heater31 » Tue May 10, 2011 10:31 pm

oldeagle wrote:Interesting use of a social networking site by a new coach to reach out to young players south & west of the CBD.



How far South and West???
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Tony Clifton » Tue May 10, 2011 11:19 pm

Footy Smart wrote:
B grade may move back to mirror A grade playing hours while compulsory declaration at 90 overs in the A grade is to be reviewed


I was playing B grade when the playing hours were changed and the players hated it, myself included. So changing that back would be good IMO.

You are kidding!

The 1pm start time has been the BEST thing happen to B Grade cricket in ages. There is not a single player in the competition who would want to start at 1130am, apart from you and a couple of mates. 80 overs is plenty.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby my contribution » Wed May 11, 2011 12:05 am

Tony Clifton wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:
B grade may move back to mirror A grade playing hours while compulsory declaration at 90 overs in the A grade is to be reviewed


I was playing B grade when the playing hours were changed and the players hated it, myself included. So changing that back would be good IMO.

You are kidding!

The 1pm start time has been the BEST thing happen to B Grade cricket in ages. There is not a single player in the competition who would want to start at 1130am, apart from you and a couple of mates. 80 overs is plenty.




Agreed entirely that 80 Overs is ample. Really A Grade only needs the 80 Overs as well. B Grade certainly no more.

They only bowl crap mediums for the overs to fill in time anyway. They should revert back to 80 overs of quality
Bowling rather than all those Overs in the middle that just fill up time for no great reason other than somebody
dreamt up another idea.

If they want to play longer overs leave it to the next level and Futures League games. No need for it and Cricket in
SA was very strong during the Chappell era and other eras where Grade or District Cricket only played 80 overs in a day,
which certainly is not the case at the moment when the rules get changes regularly and the standard nowhere near as good
at either Grade/District level or State level
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby bulldogproud2 » Wed May 11, 2011 11:24 am

Tony Clifton wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:
B grade may move back to mirror A grade playing hours while compulsory declaration at 90 overs in the A grade is to be reviewed


I was playing B grade when the playing hours were changed and the players hated it, myself included. So changing that back would be good IMO.

You are kidding!

The 1pm start time has been the BEST thing happen to B Grade cricket in ages. There is not a single player in the competition who would want to start at 1130am, apart from you and a couple of mates. 80 overs is plenty.


Heck, the way we batted in A Grade last season, 40 overs is ample at this level too!! ;)
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby smac » Wed May 11, 2011 3:19 pm

Footy Smart wrote:Smac you know all, is this super league going to go ahead?

Haven't heard a thing about it other than what I have just read here. As a concept it sounds good, but lots of detail needs to be clear I would hope before progression to reality.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Footy Smart » Wed May 11, 2011 3:45 pm

smac wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:Smac you know all, is this super league going to go ahead?

Haven't heard a thing about it other than what I have just read here. As a concept it sounds good, but lots of detail needs to be clear I would hope before progression to reality.



Yeah i have done some more digging and it def wont be in this year or next. They are also contemplating a 6 team super league!
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Aerie » Wed May 11, 2011 6:07 pm

A four or six team competition? Surely the whole point of team sport is to contribute and play in a winning team and achieve something worthwhile. A super-league team/competition will mean bugger all (no history etc.) and at the same time it will destroy the Grade Competition.

Perhaps a Super-League competition over a couple of weeks or as a Twenty20 comp could be worthwhile, but as a replacement for Grade Cricket would be a disaster. Having it over a short period of time could also invite talented cricketers to be involved who have given up on Grade Cricket, should their form be outstanding in the competition they are playing in.

I've never spoken to anyone who doesn't agree there should be less Grade Clubs. Having ten grade clubs competing week in week out would be much better than the super-league idea. Whether that be mergers or a relegation system.

Also having the best juniors in the state playing against each other on a more regular basis would help - i.e. cooperation between private schools and clubs. Perhaps club cricket could take precedence in term 4 and finish in holidays before school goes back and school cricket can be term 1 until footy season starts. The schools could have a lesser competition in term 4 for those not good enough for club cricket.

Something does need to change, but I don't think a Super-League is the answer.
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Bag The Points » Wed May 11, 2011 11:59 pm

I've always said, if schools want to demand players play for their school, they should play the matches in school hours. :evil:
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Re: Grade Cricket

Postby Tiger Couple » Thu May 12, 2011 2:25 am

I believe Justin Ifould has left Southern to pursue some coaching work and to play at a Turf Club
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