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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Wed May 04, 2011 5:33 pm

If the sanfl is looking for volunteers to pull the shite hole down, I am more than willing to help.
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby Booney » Wed May 04, 2011 5:36 pm

Interesting comment.

Why is it a shite hole?

When you were last there?

What did you not like about it?
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby PhilH » Wed May 04, 2011 5:39 pm

It is a wise long term move ...

The media heat is starting to intensify on the SANFL re stadium return becuase they have the audacity to seek a good return so they can reinvest money raised from AFL matches from AAMI into the sport of Australia Rules Football in this state (ie SANFL league, all junior development and community footy) for which the SANFL is the governing body.

Some elements can only see "South Australian Football" as two AFL clubs when in reality that are at the top of a very large pyramid with the SANFL competition, community football and junior football underneath it. Some 83,000 participants in 2010 (AFL figure) in this state but some they cannot see past the 100 or so local AFL lists

This self investment by the SANFL taking income from football and ploughing back it into football saves the AFL a lot of money if you compare what they have to spend in other states that do not have this arrangement

Going forward I suspect the SANFL will be able to sustain itself and the state league competition through income derived from its West Lakes asset whilst the Adelaide Oval income in the main will help fund successful local AFL clubs.
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby dedja » Wed May 04, 2011 6:55 pm

Booney wrote:Interesting comment.

1. Why is it a shite hole?

because finals suck there

Booney wrote:2. When you were last there?

september last year

Booney wrote:3. What did you not like about it?

see answer 1
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Wed May 04, 2011 7:01 pm

Dedja has been promoted from bodyguard to official spokesman. Nice work.
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby Jim05 » Wed May 04, 2011 7:02 pm

Yeah bulldoze the shithole.
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby Jim05 » Wed May 04, 2011 7:07 pm

The shield final will ALWAYS be at AO. Footy will have to play NAB elsewhere.
I dont think you guys have given the SACA head honchos enough credit, they are all smart and are you forgetting it was them who initiated the move of football to AO, they would already have agreenents in place. Footy gets oval from march except if redbacks ever make final.
I reckon SACA still have a few more cards to play aswell
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby purch » Wed May 04, 2011 7:13 pm

Jim05 wrote:The shield final will ALWAYS be at AO.


Ummmm..maybe in about 2030 when the Redbacks next make it to a final...

Is there any $$ for developing SA cricket in this deal?
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed May 04, 2011 7:15 pm

Of course there is, those dollars will go into grassroots, which will certainly better the game long term.
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby purch » Wed May 04, 2011 7:24 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:Of course there is, those dollars will go into grassroots, which will certainly better the game long term.


Can't happen soon enough then...

A couple of queries though:
> Will there still be regular home and away SANFL games at AO? I'm guessing that all SANFL finals will be played there if Footy Park is to be demolished...
> Will there be SANFL curtain raisers?
> If so, will SACA members have to pay to go and watch SANFL?
> Will season SANFL club members have to pay to watch SANFL at AO?
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby lesthemechanic » Wed May 04, 2011 7:30 pm

purch wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Of course there is, those dollars will go into grassroots, which will certainly better the game long term.


Can't happen soon enough then...

A couple of queries though:
> Will there still be regular home and away SANFL games at AO? I'm guessing that all SANFL finals will be played there if Footy Park is to be demolished...
> Will there be SANFL curtain raisers?
> If so, will SACA members have to pay to go and watch SANFL?
> Will season SANFL club members have to pay to watch SANFL at AO?



I have heard that the SMA is keen to have Friday night SANFL games. I know that 6,000 people in a 50,000 seat stadium will not be a great spectacle or atmosphere though.
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby lesthemechanic » Wed May 04, 2011 7:30 pm

purch wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Of course there is, those dollars will go into grassroots, which will certainly better the game long term.


Can't happen soon enough then...

A couple of queries though:
> Will there still be regular home and away SANFL games at AO? I'm guessing that all SANFL finals will be played there if Footy Park is to be demolished...
> Will there be SANFL curtain raisers?
> If so, will SACA members have to pay to go and watch SANFL?
> Will season SANFL club members have to pay to watch SANFL at AO?



I have heard that the SMA is keen to have Friday night SANFL games. I know that 6,000 people in a 50,000 seat stadium will not be a great spectacle or atmosphere though.
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby whufc » Wed May 04, 2011 7:38 pm

lesthemechanic wrote:
purch wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Of course there is, those dollars will go into grassroots, which will certainly better the game long term.


Can't happen soon enough then...

A couple of queries though:
> Will there still be regular home and away SANFL games at AO? I'm guessing that all SANFL finals will be played there if Footy Park is to be demolished...
> Will there be SANFL curtain raisers?
> If so, will SACA members have to pay to go and watch SANFL?
> Will season SANFL club members have to pay to watch SANFL at AO?



I have heard that the SMA is keen to have Friday night SANFL games. I know that 6,000 people in a 50,000 seat stadium will not be a great spectacle or atmosphere though.


Exactly, Who will want SANFL games at the new Adelaide Oval, people already complain about the shocking atmosphere at football park when we get crowds of 10K to games, imagine when we start playing minor round games of 3k crowds in a 50k stadium.
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby CENTURION » Wed May 04, 2011 7:55 pm

it's miles away from Adelaide,
not enough public transport therefore people drive,
no atmosphere,
cold,
I go there every October & STILL don't like it,
drags money out of Adelaide,
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby Barto » Wed May 04, 2011 8:02 pm

Makes sense to make it a 25 year plan, the Crows facility will be outdated by then and they'd be ready for a move to the city or a suburban oval like Thebby.

Perhaps a financial type can confirm but I'd guess it's based on depreciation forecasts for the assets that are at Football Park at the moment and they'd be dismantled bit by bit as their capital value gets closer to zero.
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby CUTTERMAN » Wed May 04, 2011 8:37 pm

PhilH wrote:It is a wise long term move ...

The media heat is starting to intensify on the SANFL re stadium return becuase they have the audacity to seek a good return so they can reinvest money raised from AFL matches from AAMI into the sport of Australia Rules Football in this state (ie SANFL league, all junior development and community footy) for which the SANFL is the governing body.

Some elements can only see "South Australian Football" as two AFL clubs when in reality that are at the top of a very large pyramid with the SANFL competition, community football and junior football underneath it. Some 83,000 participants in 2010 (AFL figure) in this state but some they cannot see past the 100 or so local AFL lists

This self investment by the SANFL taking income from football and ploughing back it into football saves the AFL a lot of money if you compare what they have to spend in other states that do not have this arrangement

Going forward I suspect the SANFL will be able to sustain itself and the state league competition through income derived from its West Lakes asset whilst the Adelaide Oval income in the main will help fund successful local AFL
clubs.

On 5AA last night during an interview with Demitriou, he mentioned that the AFL had been putting money into local and country leagues (building facilities etc) around Victoria in partnership with the Vic Govt for the last 6-7 years and that it was a successful structure they had developed. I immediately thought " then why the hell haven't you tried to expand that structure for other states and leagues"
It is THIS mentality and self serving attitude that turns people away from the AFL, puts some of the non Victorian states at a disadvantage and therefore deems that leagues like the SANFL must take care of their own interests, their own expanded state leagues whichever way they can.
Phil, I'm guessing that you have a better understanding of what this entails than alot of us but reading your post and hearing Demitrious comments, the two seemed to supplement each other.
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby JK » Wed May 04, 2011 8:41 pm

CUTTERMAN wrote:
PhilH wrote:It is a wise long term move ...

The media heat is starting to intensify on the SANFL re stadium return becuase they have the audacity to seek a good return so they can reinvest money raised from AFL matches from AAMI into the sport of Australia Rules Football in this state (ie SANFL league, all junior development and community footy) for which the SANFL is the governing body.

Some elements can only see "South Australian Football" as two AFL clubs when in reality that are at the top of a very large pyramid with the SANFL competition, community football and junior football underneath it. Some 83,000 participants in 2010 (AFL figure) in this state but some they cannot see past the 100 or so local AFL lists

This self investment by the SANFL taking income from football and ploughing back it into football saves the AFL a lot of money if you compare what they have to spend in other states that do not have this arrangement

Going forward I suspect the SANFL will be able to sustain itself and the state league competition through income derived from its West Lakes asset whilst the Adelaide Oval income in the main will help fund successful local AFL
clubs.

On 5AA last night during an interview with Demitriou, he mentioned that the AFL had been putting money into local and country leagues (building facilities etc) around Victoria in partnership with the Vic Govt for the last 6-7 years and that it was a successful structure they had developed. I immediately thought " then why the hell haven't you tried to expand that structure for other states and leagues"
It is THIS mentality and self serving attitude that turns people away from the AFL, puts some of the non Victorian states at a disadvantage and therefore deems that leagues like the SANFL must take care of their own interests, their own expanded state leagues whichever way they can.
Phil, I'm guessing that you have a better understanding of what this entails than alot of us but reading your post and hearing Demitrious comments, the two seemed to supplement each other.


I think you'll find Cutterman that the AFL still provide funds to grassroots SA, but the amount was heftily slashed several years ago because the SANFL wouldn't conform with the Salary Cap limit that the AFL wanted in place for our competition .. Hopefully someone else can confirm/deny and or clarify.
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby CUTTERMAN » Wed May 04, 2011 8:47 pm

Cornsey and Rowey initially asked about more funding for the SA state leagues due to the new TV deal, it was then that he came up with that statement, he went on to say that it could be transposed to other states.
C or R never asked why it hadn't already and never was it mentioned that the AFL had tried.
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby fish » Wed May 04, 2011 8:55 pm

CENTURION wrote:it's miles away from Adelaide,
not enough public transport therefore people drive,
no atmosphere,
cold,
I go there every October & STILL don't like it,
drags money out of Adelaide,
That pretty well sums it up for me. I am looking forward to heading to AO to watch an AFL game as a neutral supporter and catching my regular bus home. Friday night games will be very popular I reckon...
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Re: Football Park to be completely bulldozed

Postby Voice » Wed May 04, 2011 9:08 pm

fish wrote:
CENTURION wrote:it's miles away from Adelaide,
not enough public transport therefore people drive,
no atmosphere,
cold,
I go there every October & STILL don't like it,
drags money out of Adelaide,
That pretty well sums it up for me. I am looking forward to heading to AO to watch an AFL game as a neutral supporter and catching my regular bus home. Friday night games will be very popular I reckon...

Same same for me aswell (oh crap, I'm agreeing with Doggy fans :roll: :lol: )
Added to that the fact that the ground is built like a saucer. You get a flat view of the footy. I would much rather be the same distance away from the game but looking at it from high up rather than from Seaton High :roll:
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