SAAFL Div 7 & Div 7R (2011)

[dee man]

... and to be honest that is a pretty ordinary comment from fuzz.

It's hard enough getting B Grade umpires to essentially volunteer their time, without the abusive crap from people who happen to disagree with some decisions.

You simply aren't going to get quality umpires at Div 7R level. Either have to live with it, play for a club in the higher grades or take up croquet.

i take it that shads is still umpiring mate
also good to see the leg is holding up

[The_Warrior]

Congratulations to Ivan Novosel for kicking his 500th goal on the weekend. The humble champ kicked 9 on Saturday and again some of his goals were freakish.

[morell]

... and to be honest that is a pretty ordinary comment from fuzz.

It's hard enough getting B Grade umpires to essentially volunteer their time, without the abusive crap from people who happen to disagree with some decisions.

You simply aren't going to get quality umpires at Div 7R level. Either have to live with it, play for a club in the higher grades or take up croquet.

i take it that shads is still umpiring mate
also good to see the leg is holding up

Yeah mate, Shads is still doing it, and doing it fine from what I saw. In fact there were a couple of decisions that I thought went obviously against us from Shadow. Yeah he is no Ray Chamberlain, but he gets the job done and we usually have minimal complaints.

Leg is going OK, still don't have much strength in it which makes kicking hard, likely excuse I know, but I am getting there.

[morell]

... and to be honest that is a pretty ordinary comment from fuzz.

It's hard enough getting B Grade umpires to essentially volunteer their time, without the abusive crap from people who happen to disagree with some decisions.

You simply aren't going to get quality umpires at Div 7R level. Either have to live with it, play for a club in the higher grades or take up croquet.

I don't know if you saw much of the B grade game Morell, but I know what you are saying it is great people volunteering etc, but people like Fuzz get angry when countless times the player with the head over the ball was NOT protected. I am all for people volunteering, but the basics must be understood and acted upon or else there will be a serious injury sooner or later because a particular umpire continuosly let it happen and for the team he was umpiring for!!!
Very bizarre also that he told the timekeepers in one quarter to blow the siren

Not having a go or anything just think I know where Fuzz was coming from! Every needs its volunteers, but the safety of the players needs to come into it!

Fair enough mate, you make some excellent points and without the unnecessary cynicism of others.

Absolutely agree that player safety is critical, what I will refute is that the Mitchell Park B grade umpire is any better or worse at adjudicating the rules in regards to player safety than other teams B grade umpires. Shadow is football mad, has a very good understanding of the game and is scrupulously fair. Yeah he could get to position better and of course he makes mistakes, but to suggest he purposely ignores dangerous free kicks or puts opposition players safety on a lower pedestal than his own is simply absurd and unfair.

[hazza11]

... and to be honest that is a pretty ordinary comment from fuzz.

It's hard enough getting B Grade umpires to essentially volunteer their time, without the abusive crap from people who happen to disagree with some decisions.

You simply aren't going to get quality umpires at Div 7R level. Either have to live with it, play for a club in the higher grades or take up croquet.

I don't know if you saw much of the B grade game Morell, but I know what you are saying it is great people volunteering etc, but people like Fuzz get angry when countless times the player with the head over the ball was NOT protected. I am all for people volunteering, but the basics must be understood and acted upon or else there will be a serious injury sooner or later because a particular umpire continuosly let it happen and for the team he was umpiring for!!!
Very bizarre also that he told the timekeepers in one quarter to blow the siren

Not having a go or anything just think I know where Fuzz was coming from! Every needs its volunteers, but the safety of the players needs to come into it!

Fair enough mate, you make some excellent points and without the unnecessary cynicism of others.

Absolutely agree that player safety is critical, what I will refute is that the Mitchell Park B grade umpire is any better or worse at adjudicating the rules in regards to player safety than other teams B grade umpires. Shadow is football mad, has a very good understanding of the game and is scrupulously fair. Yeah he could get to position better and of course he makes mistakes, but to suggest he purposely ignores dangerous free kicks or puts opposition players safety on a lower pedestal than his own is simply absurd and unfair.

In the lower divisions the standard will never be great and I will not get on here and have a negative whinge because the standard has got a lot better I feel. Going back 3 or 4 years I feel the standard in div 7 was a lot worse!

Perhaps shadow does not get in the right positions? I don't know. While it was a fair contest, a few times it threatened to get out of hand due to the reasons I mentioned in my previous post!
One was right in front of Shadow, where head high contact was made to one of our players while over the ball and not a free kick
Not here to have a go, he is by no means terrible! Good luck for the rest of year Morell.
Only saw the early stages of the A grade, but you seemed to be playing quite well!

[morell]

Yeah I would agree that Shads could work on that, I spoke to one of the B grade coaches and he did say that he missed a couple of head highs on the ML lads. Not because of any bias but simply because he was unsighted and out of position. That is definitely some constructive feedback that we can pass on.

Good luck to your boys as well, felt the A Grade game was played in good spirits, look forward to the return battle!

[mighty hounds]

Yeah I would agree that Shads could work on that, I spoke to one of the B grade coaches and he did say that he missed a couple of head highs on the ML lads. Not because of any bias but simply because he was unsighted and out of position. That is definitely some constructive feedback that we can pass on.

Good luck to your boys as well, felt the A Grade game was played in good spirits, look forward to the return battle!

This is exactly why umpires make bad calls never in the position they should be to call it. The better umpires in the APFL get themselves where they should to make the right call the lesser ones guess from a distance. I found positioning of umpires very bad in the lower divs of SAAFL the biggest problem.

[dee man]

i think the most constructive thing the saafl could do about the standard of umpiring in the b grades where clubs supply the umpire is to run training sessions over a monthly basis.they could send senior umpires out to an area where the club umpires could all meet in their area
the experiencwe would be good and they would pick up some great tips.most of the club umpires are the same for every game so it should be a club sanctioned directive

[Esteban Vihaio]

i think the most constructive thing the saafl could do about the standard of umpiring in the b grades where clubs supply the umpire is to run training sessions over a monthly basis.they could send senior umpires out to an area where the club umpires could all meet in their area
the experiencwe would be good and they would pick up some great tips.most of the club umpires are the same for every game so it should be a club sanctioned directive

The junior development umpire squad (or some similiar name) are rotating their umpires through div 7. They are often better than the senior umpires and are actually impartial as they are not affiliated to any club.

[Esteban Vihaio]

Glad to see the Mitchell Park FC are an equal opportunity employer. Their B Grade umpire is a disgrace.

Perhaps he is the twin of the Angle Vale B grade umpire

I thought the Angle Vale umpire does a good job, certainly wouldn't be bias.

Not the game I watched on the weekend. Make no mistake, Angle Vale were the better team and deserved the win. But it is difficult playing against 19.

[Lightning McQueen]

Not the game I watched on the weekend. Make no mistake, Angle Vale were the better team and deserved the win. But it is difficult playing against 19.

OK, I know that he reported their coach a year or two ago and some of their players thik he's too tough on them, from when I've seen him the past I thought he's a good job.
What happened to the FU umpire, didn't they have to get one from the SAAFL? I heard he done a great job despite his age.

[The_Warrior]

Thanks to Footy Chick and the Grass Roots Footy crew for coming out to Mawson Lakes last night. Will be interesting viewing particularly Rob O'Gorman's 300 attempts to kick a goal from the boundary!

On the topic of Div 7 Reserves umpiring, Flinders Uni did get have a young lady from the SANFL umpire our B grade game in Round 1 and she did an excellent job. Think the lads thought the Angle Vale was good but perhaps a bit too quick on the 'Holding the Ball' decisions. The Mitchell Park gentleman tried hard, but did miss a couple of high hits. Paul Kilkington usually umpires our B grade and make no mistake the guy is a gun. If he was on the umpiring panel he would be at A1 level. Unfortunately with our C grade now in, he may be rotating between the 2 sides as we'd love to have him at the same place each week!

[morell]

Paul Kilkington usually umpires our B grade and make no mistake the guy is a gun. If he was on the umpiring panel he would be at A1 level. Unfortunately with our C grade now in, he may be rotating between the 2 sides as we'd love to have him at the same place each week!

He was very good from what I saw...

[The Riddler]

Paul Kilkington usually umpires our B grade and make no mistake the guy is a gun. If he was on the umpiring panel he would be at A1 level. Unfortunately with our C grade now in, he may be rotating between the 2 sides as we'd love to have him at the same place each week!

He was very good from what I saw...

That wasn't him Morell, PK was doing our C grade on Saturday.

[Lightning McQueen]

i think the most constructive thing the saafl could do about the standard of umpiring in the b grades where clubs supply the umpire is to run training sessions over a monthly basis.they could send senior umpires out to an area where the club umpires could all meet in their area
the experiencwe would be good and they would pick up some great tips.most of the club umpires are the same for every game so it should be a club sanctioned directive

You wouldn't get many attending, if the SAAFL were serious about cleaning it up they would get opposing coaches to submit umpire reports and see if there's a general pattern with certain club umpires.
Then they would be able to make demands to clubs and get them to do something about sub-standard performances. It is a hell of a lot harder being a club umpire opposed to being a neutral umpire, every decision or non-decision is under scrutiny, it is virtually impossible to find a happy median.

[morell]

Paul Kilkington usually umpires our B grade and make no mistake the guy is a gun. If he was on the umpiring panel he would be at A1 level. Unfortunately with our C grade now in, he may be rotating between the 2 sides as we'd love to have him at the same place each week!

He was very good from what I saw...

That wasn't him Morell, PK was doing our C grade on Saturday.

Ah ok, your B Grade umpire was good as well then.

[The Real Number 3]

Thanks to Footy Chick and the Grass Roots Footy crew for coming out to Mawson Lakes last night. Will be interesting viewing particularly Rob O'Gorman's 300 attempts to kick a goal from the boundary!

On the topic of Div 7 Reserves umpiring, Flinders Uni did get have a young lady from the SANFL umpire our B grade game in Round 1 and she did an excellent job. Think the lads thought the Angle Vale was good but perhaps a bit too quick on the 'Holding the Ball' decisions. The Mitchell Park gentleman tried hard, but did miss a couple of high hits. Paul Kilkington usually umpires our B grade and make no mistake the guy is a gun. If he was on the umpiring panel he would be at A1 level. Unfortunately with our C grade now in, he may be rotating between the 2 sides as we'd love to have him at the same place each week!

Haha Josh Nicholls, along with hooter and Lachlan = some funny viewing when it airs!!!

[the milky bar kid]

Thanks to Footy Chick and the Grass Roots Footy crew for coming out to Mawson Lakes last night. Will be interesting viewing particularly Rob O'Gorman's 300 attempts to kick a goal from the boundary!

On the topic of Div 7 Reserves umpiring, Flinders Uni did get have a young lady from the SANFL umpire our B grade game in Round 1 and she did an excellent job. Think the lads thought the Angle Vale was good but perhaps a bit too quick on the 'Holding the Ball' decisions. The Mitchell Park gentleman tried hard, but did miss a couple of high hits. Paul Kilkington usually umpires our B grade and make no mistake the guy is a gun. If he was on the umpiring panel he would be at A1 level. Unfortunately with our C grade now in, he may be rotating between the 2 sides as we'd love to have him at the same place each week!

Haha Josh Nicholls, along with hooter and Lachlan = some funny viewing when it airs!!!

Grass roots at Mawson Lakes, did Bruno Rocca bring his own team of stylists for the occasion?

[(S)aintbackline]

i think the most constructive thing the saafl could do about the standard of umpiring in the b grades where clubs supply the umpire is to run training sessions over a monthly basis.they could send senior umpires out to an area where the club umpires could all meet in their area
the experiencwe would be good and they would pick up some great tips.most of the club umpires are the same for every game so it should be a club sanctioned directive

Spot on there Dee Man, they should have training for the umps from clubs,I know they give up their time on a saturday but they do get paid so they should have to do some training.

[Footy Chick]

He wasn't even there!

Dont worry,he was duly mentioned though