SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

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Grand Finalists for 2011

Broadview
23
10%
Eastern Park
5
2%
Gaza
28
12%
Gepps Cross
7
3%
Goodwood Saints
44
18%
Henley
75
31%
PHOS Camden
9
4%
Sacred Heart OC
33
14%
Salisbury North
9
4%
Tea Tree Gully
6
3%
 
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby wristwatcher » Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:27 am

Diesel02 wrote:Think Gaza has been buying in the wrong type of players for the last few years. The addition of Klemasz, Radetti etc will not strengthen their midfield. A lot of these recruits have been outside receiving type players over the years or show ponies. Good to see some returning to the fold but in some cases their egos are bigger than their ability. Will be interesting to see if all the action in the off season sees them play finals again.... or if they are headed for relegation?




Congratulations!!! YOU ARE THE WINNER OF DUMBEST POST. I only just learnt the meaning of the word trolling in a forum but surely this is a case of that. Radetti made the SAAFL team of the year and did i read somewhere that Klemasz won the div 2 medal. They seem like fairly handy pick ups that most clubs would relish. Gaza will play finals in 2011 IMO.
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby FreeForFree » Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:18 pm

Interesting to hear that TTG have blocked a few clearances from people wanting to leave and forcing them to return. Be interesting to see how those players go back at a club that they have been openly bagging :shock:
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby Maybe » Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:41 pm

How many games will Broadies get out of Scott Leal before he leaves ???
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby Shirtfront » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:09 pm

Maybe wrote:How many games will Broadies get out of Scott Leal before he leaves ???


If all the talk on here is to be believed he's already left :roll: . Looks to be around for 5 - 6 games.
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby Maybe » Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:02 pm

Still be good value for you
Who knows make finals and maybe a sponsor can dig in his pocket for a quick trip back
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby Shirtfront » Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:15 am

Maybe wrote:Still be good value for you
Who knows make finals and maybe a sponsor can dig in his pocket for a quick trip back


Haha, we'll see.
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby FreeForFree » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:10 pm

Seagull wrote:
FreeForFree wrote:Interesting to hear that TTG have blocked a few clearances from people wanting to leave and forcing them to return. Be interesting to see how those players go back at a club that they have been openly bagging :shock:




FFF, any chance you can see an orthodontist and get those bloody teeth fixed? :shock:


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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby FOURTH ESTATE » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:59 pm

Had an ex Salisbury North player approach me at work today asking if I knew of any spare players as they had lost about 19 players.
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby FOURTH ESTATE » Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:04 pm

I hear that the APPS is not winning friends with quite a few clubs. Most are now realising the full impact of this system and the constraints that it imposes on clubs especially the rating of players from other leagues. Some clubs are already turning away players from the country who have moved to Adelaide looking for a club. These players could be lost to the game for good
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby lutz » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:13 am

FOURTH ESTATE wrote:I hear that the APPS is not winning friends with quite a few clubs. Most are now realising the full impact of this system and the constraints that it imposes on clubs especially the rating of players from other leagues. Some clubs are already turning away players from the country who have moved to Adelaide looking for a club. These players could be lost to the game for good


I think they'll find a home somewhere, but possibly not as convenient as possible.
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby Footy Smart » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:56 am

lutz wrote:
FOURTH ESTATE wrote:I hear that the APPS is not winning friends with quite a few clubs. Most are now realising the full impact of this system and the constraints that it imposes on clubs especially the rating of players from other leagues. Some clubs are already turning away players from the country who have moved to Adelaide looking for a club. These players could be lost to the game for good


I think they'll find a home somewhere, but possibly not as convenient as possible.



:lol: im sure their big boys and can find another club.
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby White Unicorn » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:01 am

FOURTH ESTATE wrote:I hear that the APPS is not winning friends with quite a few clubs. Most are now realising the full impact of this system and the constraints that it imposes on clubs especially the rating of players from other leagues. Some clubs are already turning away players from the country who have moved to Adelaide looking for a club. These players could be lost to the game for good


I know District sides probably wont agree, but it does disdvantage "truely amatuer" clubs. If there is no match payments why should a club be imposed with a points system and be disadvantaged because of it.
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby teaoby » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:39 am

FOURTH ESTATE wrote:I hear that the APPS is not winning friends with quite a few clubs. Most are now realising the full impact of this system and the constraints that it imposes on clubs especially the rating of players from other leagues. Some clubs are already turning away players from the country who have moved to Adelaide looking for a club. These players could be lost to the game for good




are there not rules in country comps for blokes that werent "recruited" but moved to the town/city for work purposes that allows them to play for a club even if the club may be over their points??

surely as long as it can be proven and is reasonable there are similar rules being put in place for the SAAFL.

also have the SAAFL gotten themselves an independent auditor!? :lol: gonna be some fun and games go on this year i reckon! ;) :oops:
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby bandar » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:50 am

White Unicorn wrote:
FOURTH ESTATE wrote:I hear that the APPS is not winning friends with quite a few clubs. Most are now realising the full impact of this system and the constraints that it imposes on clubs especially the rating of players from other leagues. Some clubs are already turning away players from the country who have moved to Adelaide looking for a club. These players could be lost to the game for good


I know District sides probably wont agree, but it does disdvantage "truely amatuer" clubs. If there is no match payments why should a club be imposed with a points system and be disadvantaged because of it.



That's an interesting one, generally "truely amatuer" clubs are the old scholars sides that do most of their recruiting from ex students. How often would their A grade have 5 or so players from outside that recruiting area? With that how many of those guys would turn up in 1 year.

Where I can see it being a problem is with UNI because I am sure they would turn over a lot more through their A grade than most.
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby Footy Smart » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:55 am

bandar wrote:
White Unicorn wrote:
FOURTH ESTATE wrote:I hear that the APPS is not winning friends with quite a few clubs. Most are now realising the full impact of this system and the constraints that it imposes on clubs especially the rating of players from other leagues. Some clubs are already turning away players from the country who have moved to Adelaide looking for a club. These players could be lost to the game for good


I know District sides probably wont agree, but it does disdvantage "truely amatuer" clubs. If there is no match payments why should a club be imposed with a points system and be disadvantaged because of it.



That's an interesting one, generally "truely amatuer" clubs are the old scholars sides that do most of their recruiting from ex students. How often would their A grade have 5 or so players from outside that recruiting area? With that how many of those guys would turn up in 1 year.

Where I can see it being a problem is with UNI because I am sure they would turn over a lot more through their A grade than most.


IMO 'truely amatuer' means just that. Blokes having a kick and catch with mates, playing for your junior club and not being recruited and playing for money.
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby bandar » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:03 am

Footy Smart wrote:
bandar wrote:
White Unicorn wrote:
FOURTH ESTATE wrote:I hear that the APPS is not winning friends with quite a few clubs. Most are now realising the full impact of this system and the constraints that it imposes on clubs especially the rating of players from other leagues. Some clubs are already turning away players from the country who have moved to Adelaide looking for a club. These players could be lost to the game for good


I know District sides probably wont agree, but it does disdvantage "truely amatuer" clubs. If there is no match payments why should a club be imposed with a points system and be disadvantaged because of it.



That's an interesting one, generally "truely amatuer" clubs are the old scholars sides that do most of their recruiting from ex students. How often would their A grade have 5 or so players from outside that recruiting area? With that how many of those guys would turn up in 1 year.

Where I can see it being a problem is with UNI because I am sure they would turn over a lot more through their A grade than most.


IMO 'truely amatuer' means just that. Blokes having a kick and catch with mates, playing for your junior club and not being recruited and playing for money.



Not suggesting there aren't some amatuer district clubs as well but more wondering if the APPS would affect Old Scholar clubs any more than anyone else. Any club that loses a bucket load of blokes is going to struggle to replace under this system.
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby White Unicorn » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:33 am

bandar wrote:
White Unicorn wrote:
FOURTH ESTATE wrote:I hear that the APPS is not winning friends with quite a few clubs. Most are now realising the full impact of this system and the constraints that it imposes on clubs especially the rating of players from other leagues. Some clubs are already turning away players from the country who have moved to Adelaide looking for a club. These players could be lost to the game for good


I know District sides probably wont agree, but it does disdvantage "truely amatuer" clubs. If there is no match payments why should a club be imposed with a points system and be disadvantaged because of it.



That's an interesting one, generally "truely amatuer" clubs are the old scholars sides that do most of their recruiting from ex students. How often would their A grade have 5 or so players from outside that recruiting area? With that how many of those guys would turn up in 1 year.

Where I can see it being a problem is with UNI because I am sure they would turn over a lot more through their A grade than most.


True Bandar, but I think the old scholar clubs have to do a heap of admin work and determine if these players are truely old scholars and provide evidence as such. On the flip side also, if for one week say an SANFL club drop back 4 players who are all 2/3 points each and the club plays each week with 7 points. I dont the the SANFL club will be happy when their player is playing B grade cause the club is over 15 points and no player gets a cent for playing
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby bandar » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:37 am

At the info meeting it was stated that dispensation could be made in those circumstances. I am not sure they grasped the fact that you get told you get these players anytime from Thursday night onwards so how do you get the CFB to rule on it.
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby Footy Smart » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:06 am

White Unicorn wrote:
bandar wrote:
White Unicorn wrote:
FOURTH ESTATE wrote:I hear that the APPS is not winning friends with quite a few clubs. Most are now realising the full impact of this system and the constraints that it imposes on clubs especially the rating of players from other leagues. Some clubs are already turning away players from the country who have moved to Adelaide looking for a club. These players could be lost to the game for good


I know District sides probably wont agree, but it does disdvantage "truely amatuer" clubs. If there is no match payments why should a club be imposed with a points system and be disadvantaged because of it.



That's an interesting one, generally "truely amatuer" clubs are the old scholars sides that do most of their recruiting from ex students. How often would their A grade have 5 or so players from outside that recruiting area? With that how many of those guys would turn up in 1 year.

Where I can see it being a problem is with UNI because I am sure they would turn over a lot more through their A grade than most.


True Bandar, but I think the old scholar clubs have to do a heap of admin work and determine if these players are truely old scholars and provide evidence as such. On the flip side also, if for one week say an SANFL club drop back 4 players who are all 2/3 points each and the club plays each week with 7 points. I dont the the SANFL club will be happy when their player is playing B grade cause the club is over 15 points and no player gets a cent for playing


These players arent told they have to play for a certain club surely? if they are a junior they are worth 0 or have played the required games previously at the club they are worth less points
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & Div 1R (2011)

Postby turbo182 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:09 am

Not suggesting there aren't some amatuer district clubs as well but more wondering if the APPS would affect Old Scholar clubs any more than anyone else. Any club that loses a bucket load of blokes is going to struggle to replace under this system.[/quote]

I think it will only effect the old scholar clubs who rely on recruits to eb sucessful; teams who aren't traditionally strong football schools perhaps (old iggies, pulteney, scotch). The majority of players from PAC, SHOC, ROCS would be old scholars - zero points.

My club (SMOSH) is probably one of the msot interesting old scholar clubs as we have Juniors. However, because of this, junior footballers in teh local area tend to develop rivalries with smosh, and as a result, a reluctance to come to us once finsihed at SMC. 95% Of our players in the A grade are either SMOSH juniors, or ex SMC so i can't see our 15 poitns being breached anytime soon!

Interesting to see how it will effect sal. north given their supposed loss of players. Ability to rebound after an exodus will be tough!
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