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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby Media Park » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:20 am

Jim05 wrote:
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The Riddler wrote:I'm the same as you...Hastings over Christian? You have got to be kidding me! :evil:

x2 very disappointing!!

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Hastings is an average player at best. What a joke


I named a "dummy"squad on Cricinfo's facebook page... Not what I wanted, but what I thought we'd get... Take out Hastings, for Doherty, and I was on the money...

But seriously...

No Hodge! No Christian! No back up for Hauritz, even though they've shown through the Ashes that they don't rate him!

Get lost Hilditch!
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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby Dogmatic » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:44 am

I think Hastings got the nod over DC because he is not as big of risk with the ball.
DC has been on the end of some good pastings.
Hastings is more consistent with the ball.
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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby Jim05 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:18 am

Dogmatic wrote:I think Hastings got the nod over DC because he is not as big of risk with the ball.
DC has been on the end of some good pastings.
Hastings is more consistent with the ball.

Maybe so, but hastings cant bat
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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby Dogmatic » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:52 am

Jim05 wrote:
Dogmatic wrote:I think Hastings got the nod over DC because he is not as big of risk with the ball.
DC has been on the end of some good pastings.
Hastings is more consistent with the ball.

Maybe so, but hastings cant bat

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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby The Riddler » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:01 pm

MAY-Z wrote:hilditch says hauritz is teh prefered spin opition cos his record in india is excellent.

hauritz has 4 wickets from 7 games at an average of 75 in india - does hilditch watch any cricket or have anything linking his brain to his mouth? everything he says is wrong

hastings is a good player but christians from has been better, siddle was in teh squad of 14 for sundays game and is suddenly cut completely without doing anything wrong

Then why play Doherty last Sunday? To once again build his hopes and confidence up only to knock him back down again?
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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby redandblack » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:08 pm

THis is one time I agree with the criticisms.

I also have problems with Christian's bowling, but he gets wickets and his form is overwhelmingly better than most.
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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby lion heart » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:46 pm

redandblack wrote:THis is one time I agree with the criticisms.

I also have problems with Christian's bowling, but he gets wickets and his form is overwhelmingly better than most.



Christian is a batting allrounder who is also an excellent fielder. I too have problems with his bowling (bowls some half trackers) but there is no doubting his ability to reverse swing the ball and he can be deadly mid late innings.
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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby The Riddler » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:51 pm

lion heart wrote:
redandblack wrote:THis is one time I agree with the criticisms.

I also have problems with Christian's bowling, but he gets wickets and his form is overwhelmingly better than most.



Christian is a batting allrounder who is also an excellent fielder. I too have problems with his bowling (bowls some half trackers) but there is no doubting his ability to reverse swing the ball and he can be deadly mid late innings.

Averaging 53 with the bat and is the 2nd leading wicket taker in the domestic comp...but yeah still not good enough :roll:
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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby Media Park » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:56 pm

He's the keynote attacker in the Backs line up, but playing for Aus, with Tait/Lee/Johnson ahead of him, plus Watto and Horrie in support, he wouldn't have to bear the brunt of the pastings... Horrid decision, and I doubt Mr Hastings will get a game during the Cup.
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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby lion heart » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:06 pm

Media Park wrote:He's the keynote attacker in the Backs line up, but playing for Aus, with Tait/Lee/Johnson ahead of him, plus Watto and Horrie in support, he wouldn't have to bear the brunt of the pastings... Horrid decision, and I doubt Mr Hastings will get a game during the Cup.


Hastings has been selected and ill be surprised if he doesnt play most games. It also wouldnt surprise me to see him do well BUT there is no hiding from the fact that Christian should have been selected in front of him. The Aussie attack has no variation so Hastings must play infront of 1 or 2 of Lee/Tait/Johnson/Bollinger.

Is it just me or is 4 quicks far too many for this squad? Personally id rather see Christo in for one of them.
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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby Media Park » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:09 pm

lion heart wrote:
Media Park wrote:He's the keynote attacker in the Backs line up, but playing for Aus, with Tait/Lee/Johnson ahead of him, plus Watto and Horrie in support, he wouldn't have to bear the brunt of the pastings... Horrid decision, and I doubt Mr Hastings will get a game during the Cup.


Hastings has been selected and ill be surprised if he doesnt play most games. It also wouldnt surprise me to see him do well BUT there is no hiding from the fact that Christian should have been selected in front of him. The Aussie attack has no variation so Hastings must play infront of 1 or 2 of Lee/Tait/Johnson/Bollinger.

Is it just me or is 4 quicks far too many for this squad? Personally id rather see Christo in for one of them.


Hastings and Smith are similar...

They bat a bit, bowl a bit, and field a bit, but couldn't be picked on a singular discipline alone...

Can't support two of them in the side, but FWIW, I think Smith is garbage anyway...
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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:10 pm

lion heart wrote:
Media Park wrote:He's the keynote attacker in the Backs line up, but playing for Aus, with Tait/Lee/Johnson ahead of him, plus Watto and Horrie in support, he wouldn't have to bear the brunt of the pastings... Horrid decision, and I doubt Mr Hastings will get a game during the Cup.


Hastings has been selected and ill be surprised if he doesnt play most games. It also wouldnt surprise me to see him do well BUT there is no hiding from the fact that Christian should have been selected in front of him. The Aussie attack has no variation so Hastings must play infront of 1 or 2 of Lee/Tait/Johnson/Bollinger.

Is it just me or is 4 quicks far too many for this squad? Personally id rather see Christo in for one of them.


Lee will break down before then anyway.
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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby smithy » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:26 pm

Interestingly before the squad was named on inside cricket last night, Blewett and Julian wouldn't have selected Mitch Johnson in their World Cup Squads.

Jimmy Maher and Brendan Julian also would've left Michael Clarke at home too.
I wonder if maher and Julian have played at a level higher than some of the people on here who were defending Clarke and slagging off the forum users who wanted Clarke dropped?
Remember, that was a pre-requisite for having an opinion on Clarke and all things cricket, playing at a high level.
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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby Booney » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:46 pm

smithy wrote:Interestingly before the squad was named on inside cricket last night, Blewett and Julian wouldn't have selected Mitch Johnson in their World Cup Squads.

Jimmy Maher and Brendan Julian also would've left Michael Clarke at home too.
I wonder if maher and Julian have played at a level higher than some of the people on here who were defending Clarke and slagging off the forum users who wanted Clarke dropped?
Remember, that was a pre-requisite for having an opinion on Clarke and all things cricket, playing at a high level.
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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby whufc » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:08 pm

Considering Christian is injured what would his preparation be heading into the tournament.

Maybe this was held against him.
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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby Media Park » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:33 pm

Booney wrote:
smithy wrote:Interestingly before the squad was named on inside cricket last night, Blewett and Julian wouldn't have selected Mitch Johnson in their World Cup Squads.

Jimmy Maher and Brendan Julian also would've left Michael Clarke at home too.
I wonder if maher and Julian have played at a level higher than some of the people on here who were defending Clarke and slagging off the forum users who wanted Clarke dropped?
Remember, that was a pre-requisite for having an opinion on Clarke and all things cricket, playing at a high level.
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Jimmy Maher, currently sponsored by McDonalds? :lol:


He was looking quite rotund next to Julian, Blewett and Fleming, wasn't he?
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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby redandblack » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:34 pm

smithy wrote:Interestingly before the squad was named on inside cricket last night, Blewett and Julian wouldn't have selected Mitch Johnson in their World Cup Squads.

Jimmy Maher and Brendan Julian also would've left Michael Clarke at home too.
I wonder if maher and Julian have played at a level higher than some of the people on here who were defending Clarke and slagging off the forum users who wanted Clarke dropped?
Remember, that was a pre-requisite for having an opinion on Clarke and all things cricket, playing at a high level.
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In that case, smithy, you'll agree that the same panel thought Clarke's innings the other night was a 'smart' innings :) (which is all I've argued).
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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby Jim05 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:37 pm

whufc wrote:Considering Christian is injured what would his preparation be heading into the tournament.

Maybe this was held against him.

So is huss and punter.
Both of them will be short of match preparation
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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby Webbing » Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:54 pm

I just dont see why the squad was named now? Was that a time requirement? Surely you would want to wait till after the OD series.

For starters, Tait and Lee are only just coming back from numerous injuries and wilderness, neither has really proven they have form back, and being fast bowlers it's a fair chance it never will come back.

Johnson, Ponting, Clarke and even D Hussey really aren't in the best of form (and that's being nice with a couple of them). Sure they are all good players and could find it in the next 6 OD games vs ENG, but if Clarke fails 5 times in the remaining 6 games do you really have faith he's going to find his long lost form magically in the first WC game?

Smith and Hastings have yet to prove they deserve a spot, if they are to be considered then they should both be playing in this OD series (and Smith should be bowling). However atleast these two are young, not sure they are the best young players that could be picked, but I guess it's a start...

Even the other guys have a bunch of clouds over them, Bollinger is only just back from injury, Hauritz has no backup spinner in the squad - which while I think he's prolly the best of an average bunch, picking your spinner for certain this far out is odd given the merry-go-round of spinners selected for the last 6 months.

Basically leaves Watson, Hussey and the two Keepers as people who I think 100% deserve the spots in the side (and the keeper choices were rather obvious).

Are countries allowed to replace players in the squad still or only in the case of injury?

Simply put I dont think this side can win the WC, and if we dont have much of a chance of winning, id atleast like to see some young blood in the side.
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Re: ODI World Cup squads

Postby Media Park » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:00 pm

Indian WC Squad:
Squad: MS Dhoni (capt & wk), Sachin Tendulkar, Virender Sehwag, Gautam Gambhir, Yuvraj Singh, Suresh Raina, Virat Kohli, Yusuf Pathan, Harbhajan Singh, Praveen Kumar, Zaheer Khan, Ashish Nehra, Munaf Patel, Piyush Chawla, R Ashwin
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