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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby sjt » Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:32 pm

Wedgie wrote:
sjt wrote:
Wedgie wrote:I could just imagine North and Port having the conversation, "gee if we were smart like Glenelg and the Eagles we'd have 6 premierships between us instead of 50 and only have supporters that rock up when were winning and be experts at choking in he finals, let's do it"


I think they'd be more inclined to be looking forward than looking back.


Exactly, if they were more prone to looking forward than back they have approximately 50 flags to show for it, not just a couple of handful or two.


Oh well, it will be interesting to see how competing (or not) has an affect on any of the clubs future premiership chances. Regardless it will be interesting. Hopefully, the SANFL teams can do well (except Port ;) . I don't think, at the end of next year, any of the teams will be regretting their decision to compete or not compete.
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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby Wedgie » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:01 pm

Pfft, bugger the results. I just want another excuse for an alcohol fuelled interstate weekend for the fans!
It's not like North participating will dent their flag chances as 50% of buggerall is still buggerall! :lol:
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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby doggies4eva » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:06 pm

If the allegations on this thread are true - that Chandler said when asked about sponsors logos not being allowed on player uniforms "they will get new ones for free" or something similar then I find this naive and an indication that he is out of his depth.

The importance to our club (and I assume most clubs) of maintaining good relationships with key sponsors cannot be understated. I wonder how Port having just been bailed out can justify entering a comp where other clubs calculate that it will cost them money and risk offending sponsors?
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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby sjt » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:30 pm

doggies4eva wrote:If the allegations on this thread are true - that Chandler said when asked about sponsors logos not being allowed on player uniforms "they will get new ones for free" or something similar then I find this naive and an indication that he is out of his depth.

The importance to our club (and I assume most clubs) of maintaining good relationships with key sponsors cannot be understated. I wonder how Port having just been bailed out can justify entering a comp where other clubs calculate that it will cost them money and risk offending sponsors?


It was Wednesday about 4:45pm of this week. Do they have podcasts of the show?
After they had talked about guernseys Chandler said something along the lines of "the new guernseys will be supplied, at no cost to the clubs". Whatever his response, after the interview Mcdermott said something along the lines of "cleanskin" guernseys? What's in it for the clubs? I'd like to hear it again. However, Chandler inferred this aspect hadn't been finalised yet. One of the unresolved conditions.
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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby redandblack » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:37 pm

Instead of speculation and guessing, how about some facts.

This is extra exposure for sponsors.

Their logos will, repeat will, be on the guernsey.

National exposure, free.

Move on to the next 'problem'.
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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby Dutchy » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:39 pm

redandblack wrote:Instead of speculation and guessing, how about some facts.

This is extra exposure for sponsors.

Their logos will, repeat will, be on the guernsey.

National exposure, free.

Move on to the next 'problem'.


So you can guarantee that the clubs sponsor WILL be on the jumper?
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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby redandblack » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:39 pm

Yep.
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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby sjt » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:44 pm

redandblack wrote:Instead of speculation and guessing, how about some facts.

This is extra exposure for sponsors.

Their logos will, repeat will, be on the guernsey.

National exposure, free.

Move on to the next 'problem'.


Good to know. Sorry, only going by what Chandler said. Where did you get that fact from R&B? If it's a fact, maybe he shouldn't have said otherwise, on Wednesday.
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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby doggies4eva » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:55 pm

redandblack wrote:Yep.


Really - well is there a link or document that you can supply which shows the rules? The clubs have been saying that this needs clarification!
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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby redandblack » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:14 pm

No, but time will tell and I'm confident it's correct.

I will say that at the start of a new national competition, if there are still some things to be worked out, that's not unusual, or a major crime.
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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby sjt » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:20 pm

redandblack wrote:Instead of speculation and guessing, how about some facts.

.


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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby Wedgie » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:22 pm

Josh Francou wrote:What about the Champions League Cup?
I am very excited about the prospect of participating in this competition. It gives our players an opportunity to experience something unique and challenge themselves against the other competitions around Australia. I am sure they will remember the experience for the rest of their lives
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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby Royal City » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:10 pm

redandblack wrote:Instead of speculation and guessing, how about some facts.

This is extra exposure for sponsors.

Their logos will, repeat will, be on the guernsey.

National exposure, free.

Move on to the next 'problem'.


What are you seemingly so annoyed about?

The 'narrow-mindedness' of the other clubs allowed yours to get in.

Enjoy it.
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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby Barto » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:19 pm

Wedgie wrote:
Josh Francou wrote:What about the Champions League Cup?
I am very excited about the prospect of participating in this competition. It gives our players an opportunity to experience something unique and challenge themselves against the other competitions around Australia. I am sure they will remember the experience for the rest of their lives



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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby PhilH » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:46 pm

Thanks BP

Reading it the article says the "schedule will be finalised early next year"

Looks like we won't see any SANFL schedule until end of January which would be only 8-9 weeks before the scheduled commencement.

Like most I have mixed personal feelings regarding the comp, but now its on I hope LifeFM can get to cover some of the games.

One of those concerns is the IMPACT on the SANFL, Australia's best state sporting league and I guess other leagues as well.

Having the schedule released so late for EVERY state league is not a good start. This should be have done in July - September, not October - December.
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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby JAS » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:53 pm

PhilH wrote:Thanks BP

Reading it the article says the "schedule will be finalised early next year"

Looks like we won't see any SANFL schedule until end of January which would be only 8-9 weeks before the scheduled commencement.

Like most I have mixed personal feelings regarding the comp, but now its on I hope LifeFM can get to cover some of the games.

One of those concerns is the IMPACT on the SANFL, Australia's best state sporting league and I guess other leagues as well.

Having the schedule released so late for EVERY state league is not a good start. This should be have done in July - September, not October - December.


You've got to be ******* kdding...well thanks SANFL/AFL for probably ruining my 50th and 5 years of planning...the chance of getting the flights and hotel I was wanting will be virtually zero.

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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby PhilH » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:00 pm

Hi Jas

I could be wrong ... but hard to see logistically how the SANFL can finalise a schedule until it knows when North Port & West need their byes to play in the champions league.

There was already a reported draft schedule issued that allocated games with the AFL Matches. Replace Central with Port to give them that Magpies / Power doubleheader v Ainslie.

Then send West to Sydney, North to Brisbane or vice versa ..... then let us get on with our league schedules.
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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby once_were_warriors » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:02 pm

Wedgie wrote:I could just imagine North and Port having the conversation, "gee if we were smart like Glenelg and the Eagles we'd have 6 premierships between us instead of 50 and only have supporters that rock up when were winning and be experts at choking in the finals, let's do it"

I've read some crap on this site but he inference that clubs that make the finals in one specific year (or 2 or 3) are "smarter" than others takes the cake easily.



A bit like you grouping North in with Port to count premierships , as if North are in Port's league.
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Re: National 2nd Tier Competiton Discussion

Postby spell_check » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:11 pm

JAS wrote:
PhilH wrote:Thanks BP

Reading it the article says the "schedule will be finalised early next year"

Looks like we won't see any SANFL schedule until end of January which would be only 8-9 weeks before the scheduled commencement.

Like most I have mixed personal feelings regarding the comp, but now its on I hope LifeFM can get to cover some of the games.

One of those concerns is the IMPACT on the SANFL, Australia's best state sporting league and I guess other leagues as well.

Having the schedule released so late for EVERY state league is not a good start. This should be have done in July - September, not October - December.


You've got to be ******* kdding...well thanks SANFL/AFL for probably ruining my 50th and 5 years of planning...the chance of getting the flights and hotel I was wanting will be virtually zero.

Regards
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That must be so frustrating JAS, but unfortunately, you'll just have to hope that the byes Norwood has are not when you schedule. You should still see at least one match - you are here for two weekends, yes?
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