SA Churches and Community Cricket Association 2010/11

[carey]

this is how it is from my view..Every game except 1 we have bowled teams out for under 150 so its not our bowlers that arent doing the job..its our batsmen that are letting us down bcoz in my view a team should be able to chase down 150 9 times out of 10 so in reality we should be 3-1 instead we are unfortunately 0-4 .The A Grade are aware of the batting problems and are trying to fix them but there is not much you can do when there is no real depth in the B Grade batting stocks and C grade for that matter so all we can do is try and do our best with what we have available.

There is no doubt the young Mcleod's boys have heaps of talent and years to come be very good bowlers but who are they going to replace in the A Grade when you have Gully,Miller, Hill,Vikas,Woolcock and Reynolds(who would you drop out of these??)

From what i have seen this yr the Grade 2 is twice as good as Grade 3 which is very poor standard this yr it must be said so there would have to be questions asked whether the Macca boys would be able to take the huge step up to the next level???..but after saying that there is no doubt in my mind if at round 6 or 7 we are still struggling to win games then changes will be made and we will start giving the young lads a chance to play A grade cricket.

PS.Please dont get mad at me Mr Green..i couldn't help myself

now whilst you make some very good points OBB i'm not sure you should be 3 and 1! but saying this i think your a better side than what your scores currently read as i'v said to you and phantom afew times this year i think enfiled as a hole arn't far away but to be honest i believe you do need a couple of bowlers and a couple of batsmen even just to hang around and support the old fella they try and play shots that just arn't there at stupid stages of the game! but as i siad i dont think enfiled are that far off.

[auto]

Fair effort to play 200 games....congratulations from FCC. The last Cuz to play 200 games and become an all australian ended up in rehab so look after him boys.

[One Ball Bandit]

I was speaking to a mate that plays for Prospect about the pitches yesterday and he reckons that the ball bounces all over the place and that the A Grade batsmen cant bat properly on it so it might not be the ball that you were using Carey after all but im sure you tampered with it somehow but that doesnt explain how you were bowling powder puffs on Sat to bowling Hand-Grenades on Wed night???

i'll explain it to you mate, friday night i had a free pi$$ show and pulled an all nighter so with no sleep at all feeling like i'd swolled a full ash tray i rocked up to cricket add to this it was raining, the ball was f_(ked and the run up was like the ice arena is a huge reason why i had to bowl within myself sat.

haha nothing in it bud..just a bit of friendly banter.Remember i seen the ball you were bowling with Sat Good luck 2moro..i dont think Morialta have dropped a game yet other than a draw so should be a good test for you's to see where your at but after saying that i reckon you's should win!!!!

[auto]

I am rightfully informed Jarrad McLeod is again playing B Grade for Enfield on Saturday.

Jarrad McLeod 47.5 overs, 14 wickets @ 2.2 runs an over
Luke McLeod 41 overs 7 wickets @ 2.1 runs an over

Im told both of these young men(Jarrad being only 17) have said they will play A grade if selected. Both bowl with great control and can swing/cut the ball where they desire with great effect yet cant break in to A grade team that hasnt won a game. Can someone from Enfield other then myself tell me how this is so? And also post stats and reasonings regarding the continued re-selection of under-performing bowlers? Jarrad will be representing the Association Under 21's and has results to back him up yet it seems his not even being considered at all for a call up.

As if you agree to play A grade....you just play wherever your picked, theres no agree or disagree.....you just play. It seems pretty obvious to most that you Enfield boys have a bit of a cultural problem with players only playing in certain teams. Thats no good for the culture of your club.
Just my opinion but these problems at Enfield seem to have gone on for quite a few years without any change in attitude. I know in years gone by Enfield has been a top club in Div 1 but atm your A grade is the crappest out of all the A grade teams in Div 1 & 2. Pick the right players for the future of your club........Take care Dr. Phil

[One Ball Bandit]

As an inside person of Enfield i can assure ppl that we are selecting the best 11 in the A Grade every wk even if the results aren't indicating that..as i said you can only pick the names that are put in front of you and just for the record i don't think Jared is in that best 11 at this stage YET..sorry In the En Field!!!

Surely we have more important things to talk about than what goes on at Enfield so i say ***********************END OF DISCUSSION**********************************

[auto]

Ill tell you right now OBB the brainstrust at Fitzies are playing youngsters who arent in our best 21, but for the good of the club we are playing them. Short term pain for long term gain. We were rolled for 90 last week but batted again and a young 16 year old got some priceless experience and played a couple of cracking shots. And sometimes thats all it takes to get some belief into yourself. He's a lad who'll hold down a top order batting spot at our club for as long time. Anyways as you said enuff of talking about Enfield....lets play hungry hungry hippies.

[One Ball Bandit]

Ill tell you right now OBB the brainstrust at Fitzies are playing youngsters who arent in our best 21, but for the good of the club we are playing them. Short term pain for long term gain. We were rolled for 90 last week but batted again and a young 16 year old got some priceless experience and played a couple of cracking shots. And sometimes thats all it takes to get some belief into yourself. He's a lad who'll hold down a top order batting spot at our club for as long time. Anyways as you said enuff of talking about Enfield....lets play hungry hungry hippies.

i have been informed from a very reliable source that young Jared has said himself he doesn't think he is ready to make the step up to A Grade..anyway Mr Autowicky if you need a few players for Under 21's i have been told on numerous occasions i look under 21 and still get asked for ID everywhere i go ..Me and Aaron Frith were the only two that got asked when trying to get into the Melbourne Casino last carnival year

[auto]

Ill tell you right now OBB the brainstrust at Fitzies are playing youngsters who arent in our best 21, but for the good of the club we are playing them. Short term pain for long term gain. We were rolled for 90 last week but batted again and a young 16 year old got some priceless experience and played a couple of cracking shots. And sometimes thats all it takes to get some belief into yourself. He's a lad who'll hold down a top order batting spot at our club for as long time. Anyways as you said enuff of talking about Enfield....lets play hungry hungry hippies.

i have been informed from a very reliable source that young Jared has said himself he doesn't think he is ready to make the step up to A Grade..anyway Mr Autowicky if you need a few players for Under 21's i have been told on numerous occasions i look under 21 and still get asked for ID everywhere i go ..Me and Aaron Frith were the only two that got asked when trying to get into the Melbourne Casino last carnival year

Last time i was at the Melbourne Casino they asked me if i had a seniors card.

[Goat Herder]

Ill tell you right now OBB the brainstrust at Fitzies are playing youngsters who arent in our best 21, but for the good of the club we are playing them. Short term pain for long term gain. We were rolled for 90 last week but batted again and a young 16 year old got some priceless experience and played a couple of cracking shots. And sometimes thats all it takes to get some belief into yourself. He's a lad who'll hold down a top order batting spot at our club for as long time. Anyways as you said enuff of talking about Enfield....lets play hungry hungry hippies.

i have been informed from a very reliable source that young Jared has said himself he doesn't think he is ready to make the step up to A Grade..anyway Mr Autowicky if you need a few players for Under 21's i have been told on numerous occasions i look under 21 and still get asked for ID everywhere i go .Me and Aaron Frith were the only two that got asked when trying to get into the Melbourne Casino last carnival year

Last time i was at the Melbourne Casino they asked me if i had a seniors card.

Yep, and I was the only one of the touring party that had to take his belt & shoes off and swabbed for 'substances' on the last Carnival. **** me, not only leaving Adelaide, but coming back in as well. Bullshit!

[One Ball Bandit]

Ill tell you right now OBB the brainstrust at Fitzies are playing youngsters who arent in our best 21, but for the good of the club we are playing them. Short term pain for long term gain. We were rolled for 90 last week but batted again and a young 16 year old got some priceless experience and played a couple of cracking shots. And sometimes thats all it takes to get some belief into yourself. He's a lad who'll hold down a top order batting spot at our club for as long time. Anyways as you said enuff of talking about Enfield....lets play hungry hungry hippies.

i have been informed from a very reliable source that young Jared has said himself he doesn't think he is ready to make the step up to A Grade..anyway Mr Autowicky if you need a few players for Under 21's i have been told on numerous occasions i look under 21 and still get asked for ID everywhere i go .Me and Aaron Frith were the only two that got asked when trying to get into the Melbourne Casino last carnival year

Last time i was at the Melbourne Casino they asked me if i had a seniors card.

Yep, and I was the only one of the touring party that had to take his belt & shoes off and swabbed for 'substances' on the last Carnival. **** me, not only leaving Adelaide, but coming back in as well. Bullshit!

haha i remember that but lets face it Wino you do look like a dodgy character

[Goat Herder]

I was speaking to a mate that plays for Prospect about the pitches yesterday and he reckons that the ball bounces all over the place and that the A Grade batsmen cant bat properly on it so it might not be the ball that you were using Carey after all but im sure you tampered with it somehow but that doesnt explain how you were bowling powder puffs on Sat to bowling Hand-Grenades on Wed night???

Seriously, the decks out there are great, and I can't believe that a Grade Cricket club wouldn't want to bat on those surfaces. You are surely taking the piss OBB? Any clown can bat on a flat track, but it takes skill and discipline to bat on a pitch that has a bit of bounce and seam assistance if you hit the right areas. If that was true OBB, you would've surely gotten the same responses from the pitch all night, other than your last seed, which was a jaffa - that's why they call you the One Ball Bandit..

I don't want to comment on how other clubs run their cricketing operations, but I have to agree 100% with Smasha. Craig Davids was old back when I was playing (well, his head was well lived in at least.. ), and there's a lot to be said for playing 15-16yo's in your highest division. Kids never cease to amaze you how quickly they pick things up, and out-perform even their own expectations. And often. We're not ushering them into Sheffield Shield cricket, it's Div 2 metro hard-wicket FFS. It ain't that special.

And to back up the view that Smasha & I share, over the years at PV we have introduced several 15-17yo's into Div 1 cricket and they've gone on to become quality cricketers. Exhibit A : Try on the names Brenton Oldman, Josh Vines, Michael Spry & Craig Tarca. I reckon they all made their debuts at 16yo - Tarcs maybe at 15yo? - and 3 of them went on to play Carnival cricket, and Brett represented the Assoc against PDCA last season and performed well. I rest my case..

PS; Auto you're a cunny funt on the keyboard for a softly spoken dude!

[Goat Herder]

haha i remember that but lets face it Wino you do look like a dodgy character

I don't know if they were swabbing for drugs or explosives.. Luckily my suitcase full of smack had already passed through customs. Gotta luv Tiger Airways hey?

[auto]

I was speaking to a mate that plays for Prospect about the pitches yesterday and he reckons that the ball bounces all over the place and that the A Grade batsmen cant bat properly on it so it might not be the ball that you were using Carey after all but im sure you tampered with it somehow but that doesnt explain how you were bowling powder puffs on Sat to bowling Hand-Grenades on Wed night???

Seriously, the decks out there are great, and I can't believe that a Grade Cricket club wouldn't want to bat on those surfaces. You are surely taking the piss OBB? Any clown can bat on a flat track, but it takes skill and discipline to bat on a pitch that has a bit of bounce and seam assistance if you hit the right areas. If that was true OBB, you would've surely gotten the same responses from the pitch all night, other than your last seed, which was a jaffa - that's why they call you the One Ball Bandit..

I don't want to comment on how other clubs run their cricketing operations, but I have to agree 100% with Smasha. Craig Davids was old back when I was playing (well, his head was well lived in at least.. ), and there's a lot to be said for playing 15-16yo's in your highest division. Kids never cease to amaze you how quickly they pick things up, and out-perform even their own expectations. And often. We're not ushering them into Sheffield Shield cricket, it's Div 2 metro hard-wicket FFS. It ain't that special.

And to back up the view that Smasha & I share, over the years at PV we have introduced several 15-17yo's into Div 1 cricket and they've gone on to become quality cricketers. Exhibit A : Try on the names Brenton Oldman, Josh Vines, Michael Spry & Craig Tarca. I reckon they all made their debuts at 16yo - Tarcs maybe at 15yo? - and 3 of them went on to play Carnival cricket, and Brett represented the Assoc against PDCA last season and performed well. I rest my case..

PS; Auto you're a cunny funt on the keyboard for a softly spoken dude!

No offence mate but i have whats called ARD (astute rectum disorder) or in laymans terms im a smart arse.

[auto]

Just on another personal note does anyone else have F*ckiforgottowashmywhitesagain syndrome. I suffer from it. Every Saturday about 11 o'clock it hits me. One day ill break the cycle.

[One Ball Bandit]

i had to ask him twice bcoz i didn't believe him at first but he assures me this is the case so i had know choice but to believe him after all he does play for Prospect so he should know his training decks you would think but after saying that like you said the deck was very batsmen friendly and the only bowler that was getting any regular assistance from it was Dutchy.

I also know another bloke that plays at Prospect so next time i see him i will ask him and see if he can back up the story

[Mythbuster]

Congratulations Cuz, or Coss as one umpire would say. And i wont repeat what another umpire called you.

Seriously,

Congratulations on a great cricket life mate. Your batting at times has been breathtaking and blistering, while your bowling is.....well your batting is great.

The time and effort you put into our club is all the more impressive when you factor in the hours of body and soul you put in at the bakery. I for one dont have the foggiest how you manage to do both things, and one imagines that you have more than a few nights with little kip.

I appreciate all you have done for the club, association and my own cricket career, and hope you still have a few left in ya yet.

To all those who want to have a go at Cuz, or wanna take him behind the shed and give him one go for your life. But as your doing it have a think about what you put back in, and use him as an example of sacrifice and selflessness.

Well done mate and good luck tomorrow.

From the real Mythbuster JV.

[In the En Field]

this is how it is from my view..Every game except 1 we have bowled teams out for under 150 so its not our bowlers that arent doing the job..its our batsmen that are letting us down bcoz in my view a team should be able to chase down 150 9 times out of 10 so in reality we should be 3-1 instead we are unfortunately 0-4 .The A Grade are aware of the batting problems and are trying to fix them but there is not much you can do when there is no real depth in the B Grade batting stocks and C grade for that matter so all we can do is try and do our best with what we have available.

There is no doubt the young Mcleod's boys have heaps of talent and years to come be very good bowlers but who are they going to replace in the A Grade when you have Gully,Miller, Hill,Vikas,Woolcock and Reynolds(who would you drop out of these??)

From what i have seen this yr the Grade 2 is twice as good as Grade 3 which is very poor standard this yr it must be said so there would have to be questions asked whether the Macca boys would be able to take the huge step up to the next level???..but after saying that there is no doubt in my mind if at round 6 or 7 we are still struggling to win games then changes will be made and we will start giving the young lads a chance to play A grade cricket.

PS.Please dont get mad at me Mr Green..i couldn't help myself

IMO, Jarrad in particular would take the ball before the above highlighted. Do you think your teams failure with the bat is anything to do with the work load players have? The fact 2 of your above players are top 5 batters in your line up, maybe it would a master stroke on your captains behalf to bring in a 'bowler'.

It would not only alleviate the pressure on there batting, IMO, it would also make them be more accountable and take there batting to a higher level(I have no doubt the ability of Reynolds in particular with the bat) knowing that's what they're in for. I dont doubt having all-rounders can pay good dividens in certain situations but it seems your teams chore is all-rounders in Woolcock, Reynold, Gully, Hill, Vikkas. All bat, all bowl. They aint no 'Smasha'.

Round 6/7... Struggling to win games... If you blokes lose this week and changes arent made, it's curtain closed on your season. That is quite simple. And the fact you single out Grade 3 as being a very poor standard is a ridiculous suggestion considering there are 4 Grade 1 B grade sides in there and to have a cheap shot at the standard when your side is 0-4. Along with NEK and Para Vistas B grade at full strength, I believe the Enfield B Grades current side would be more then competitive against you blokes. Good-luck to you blokes tomorrow Bandits

[In the En Field]

[quote="Phantom Gossiper"]OBB..

Put into perspective, how many games have you played at your home ground? Terama is generally very spongey and slow and is a large field. Id be comfortable defending 150 - 175.

As for the bowlers, i dont think woolcock or reynolds are A grade Bowlers, I havent seen hill for a couple years but he never really set the world alight, and no offence to Miller (C) but i think he has plenty to learn with the ball and really doesnt do anything with it, and tends to bowl too full.

Let your batsman (Woolcock, Reynolds) concentrate on batting and pick bowlers to do the bowling.[/quote]
Took the words right out of my mouth, must have been while you were kissing me.

[In the En Field]

OBB..

Put into perspective, how many games have you played at your home ground? Terama is generally very spongey and slow and is a large field. Id be comfortable defending 150 - 175.

As for the bowlers, i dont think woolcock or reynolds are A grade Bowlers, I havent seen hill for a couple years but he never really set the world alight, and no offence to Miller (C) but i think he has plenty to learn with the ball and really doesnt do anything with it, and tends to bowl too full.

Let your batsman (Woolcock, Reynolds) concentrate on batting and pick bowlers to do the bowling.

No offence Phantom but how many games have you seen us play this yr?? Craig Davids is opening the batting and has been our best batsmen this yr so not sure where your getting you info as for Simmo not 100% sure but i think he got dropped for R.Fattori who has been batting well in the B's to boost our batting.

Simmo didnt get dropped Im informed. Ric has been selected for batting and will keep second week apparently. I havent see alot of this young lad but Ive heard nothing other then glowing reports about him as a cricketer. Good luck to him. I believe this is a fine example of what myself and Phantom have suggested about selecting for 'certain' roles. Im told Simmo has been keeping great but doesnt hit any runs regardless of where he bats How wasn't a clean swap of Simmo and Ric not pencilled in. Got me stuffed

[In the En Field]

As an inside person of Enfield i can assure ppl that we are selecting the best 11 in the A Grade every wk even if the results aren't indicating that..as i said you can only pick the names that are put in front of you and just for the record i don't think Jared is in that best 11 at this stage YET..sorry In the En Field!!!

Surely we have more important things to talk about than what goes on at Enfield so i say ***********************END OF DISCUSSION**********************************

There is no way in Gods Green Earth Enfield is selecting there best 11. How can you dish out that garbage and then decide its end of discussion. If there was a mid-season review, there would be alot of changes to Enfields 'BEST 11'. Ive been in and about the club for a 16 years and I have never seen a weaker A Grade. IMO ofcourse