HFL Division 1 (Central)

[spot on]

Devilsadvocate you must be a board member. I agree it would not be easy being one but surely common sense was not applied in this case. If Lobethal oval is in such bad condition you don't cancell the whole weekend's games. Instead you find an alternative oval for the Lobethal games which has now been done and correctly so. Seems like a kneejerk reaction and not a lot of initial thought put into it. Anyway just my opinion for what it is worth.

[Armytank]

Unfortunately people talk to them that way because that is how you get what you want from them, bully them into submission.

They do a thankless job that is to look after every clubs interests and the health of the competition. Sometimes the best interests of the clubs and the league may not sit well with one or two clubs every now and then but until they grow a set and tell all of the clubs how it is going to be then they will continue to get bullied, harrassed and viewed as weak.

Management by agreeing with the person from the last phone call you take is only going to breed this mentality of he who cries loudest wins.

I am not particularly fond of bad mouthing the league officials but sometimes criticism needs to be sounded as to be constructive in improving the management of our competition.

[devilsadvocate]

Devilsadvocate you must be a board member. I agree it would not be easy being one but surely common sense was not applied in this case. If Lobethal oval is in such bad condition you don't cancell the whole weekend's games. Instead you find an alternative oval for the Lobethal games which has now been done and correctly so. Seems like a kneejerk reaction and not a lot of initial thought put into it. Anyway just my opinion for what it is worth.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha, I can assure you i'm not a board member.
Hahahahahaha. That's hilarious.

I guess with hindsight, everybody's perfect. Are you going to be putting your hand up to run the league from 2012 then?

Didn't think so.

[Afterthesiren]

Devilsadvocate you must be a board member. I agree it would not be easy being one but surely common sense was not applied in this case. If Lobethal oval is in such bad condition you don't cancell the whole weekend's games. Instead you find an alternative oval for the Lobethal games which has now been done and correctly so. Seems like a kneejerk reaction and not a lot of initial thought put into it. Anyway just my opinion for what it is worth.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha, I can assure you i'm not a board member.
Hahahahahaha. That's hilarious.

I guess with hindsight, everybody's perfect. Are you going to be putting your hand up to run the league from 2012 then?

Didn't think so.

I think he was just making a point DA. No point in sounding like a silly school boy with all the ha ha. Apologies if you are in fact a school boy... makes sense then I guess.

[devilsadvocate]

Hahahahaha.
You are such a WUM

[Amateur Footy]

Flood warning for Onkaparinga river with peak expected at 6pm or later tonight. Safe to say you wouldn't be playing football in balhannah this weekend as it might be one of those 10 yearly floodings of Onkas oval.

My tip for the weekend - Vaughan's hilux to be washed away at 8pm tonight.

[Jardarf]

I agree and apologize if my post may have come across a bit harsh and to the credit of the board a lot of them are actually really nice people who are always willing to stop for a chat and try their best to accommodate the clubs in the league. But common sense should prevail and the board should have measures in place in case circumstances like this happen. An alternative venue should have been decided upon a week ago as a fallback in case of emergency. At least now the board has had these mishaps happen and so hopefully they can learn from their mistakes to avoid it happening in future (and with any luck, grow a few balls while they're at it).

On a positive note, I just checked out Blackwood's surface and it's pulled up rather well despite the weather circumstances and the fact that finals were only played there on Sunday. Bit boggey in places and there's minimal grass down the centre of the oval, but certainly the surface is 100 times better than the crap I saw at Birdwood last week and Uraidla a few weeks back and a lot flatter. The players might feel more comfortable keeping the ball on the wings though.

[spot on]

Devilsadvocate you must be a board member. I agree it would not be easy being one but surely common sense was not applied in this case. If Lobethal oval is in such bad condition you don't cancell the whole weekend's games. Instead you find an alternative oval for the Lobethal games which has now been done and correctly so. Seems like a kneejerk reaction and not a lot of initial thought put into it. Anyway just my opinion for what it is worth.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha, I can assure you i'm not a board member.
Hahahahahaha. That's hilarious.

I guess with hindsight, everybody's perfect. Are you going to be putting your hand up to run the league from 2012 then?

Didn't think so.

I am glad I gave you a good laugh, no malice intended. Seeing you are not a board member (which I really didn't think you were), I could ask you the same question, are you going to put your hand up?. I agree to a point you probably shouldn't critise unless you are prepared to put your hand up. But then if you sit back and say nothing, nothing will change. To answer your question no I am not available for 2012 due to many factors which I do not wish to discuss with you.

[devilsadvocate]

No I won't be running for HFL board. I also won't sit back and sledge them for doing the best they can in what must be a difficult set of circumstances.

[devilsadvocate]

I agree and apologize if my post may have come across a bit harsh and to the credit of the board a lot of them are actually really nice people who are always willing to stop for a chat and try their best to accommodate the clubs in the league. But common sense should prevail and the board should have measures in place in case circumstances like this happen. An alternative venue should have been decided upon a week ago as a fallback in case of emergency. At least now the board has had these mishaps happen and so hopefully they can learn from their mistakes to avoid it happening in future (and with any luck, grow a few balls while they're at it).

On a positive note, I just checked out Blackwood's surface and it's pulled up rather well despite the weather circumstances and the fact that finals were only played there on Sunday. Bit boggey in places and there's minimal grass down the centre of the oval, but certainly the surface is 100 times better than the crap I saw at Birdwood last week and Uraidla a few weeks back and a lot flatter. The players might feel more comfortable keeping the ball on the wings though.

Kudos for that post. Fair play mate.

[spot on]

No I won't be running for HFL board. I also won't sit back and sledge them for doing the best they can in what must be a difficult set of circumstances.

So do you think that the original decision to cancell the whole weekend of footy beacause of the state of one ground is a sound decision? The correct decision was eventually made and full marks to them for that, but it appears this would not have happened if the right people had not complained. Nothing wrong with constructive critisism, or do the board sit in a glass house and think they are immune from any flack at all.

[Afterthesiren]

No I won't be running for HFL board. I also won't sit back and sledge them for doing the best they can in what must be a difficult set of circumstances.

So do you think that the original decision to cancell the whole weekend of footy beacause of the state of one ground is a sound decision? The correct decision was eventually made and full marks to them for that, but it appears this would not have happened if the right people had not complained. Nothing wrong with constructive critisism, or do the board sit in a glass house and think they are immune from any flack at all.

Well said 'spot on'. Decisions like that can't be made without some sort of obvious backlash. Perhaps the HFL should've remained tight lipped until a firm decision was made after consultation with all clubs involved.

[humour me]

seems like a few people have gone off before knowing any facts this arvo. So unusual for learned posters on this site. For anyone interested in actual facts, there was a pipe under the loby oval that burst around 11.00am this morning. The groundsman called the council immediately to see if they could come and repair the damage. Council arrived around 1.00pm. Council workers in consultation with Loby committee members and HFL board member decided playing surface could not be repaired and would be unsafe for play on Sat. HFL board member started immediately looking for alternative venue. When I was called at around 1.30pm to be advised final was to be relocated, Balhannah was the likely venue. I would think it unlikely that cancelling the weeks games was ever a possibility that was considered by the board but stand corrected if someone has any evidence other than footy forum histeria to back this up.

[devilsadvocate]

No I won't be running for HFL board. I also won't sit back and sledge them for doing the best they can in what must be a difficult set of circumstances.

So do you think that the original decision to cancell the whole weekend of footy beacause of the state of one ground is a sound decision? The correct decision was eventually made and full marks to them for that, but it appears this would not have happened if the right people had not complained. Nothing wrong with constructive critisism, or do the board sit in a glass house and think they are immune from any flack at all.

No I don't but I'm not going to slate them for it.
The correct decision was arrived at within an hour.
I reckon we're all being a bit precious.

[devilsadvocate]

No I won't be running for HFL board. I also won't sit back and sledge them for doing the best they can in what must be a difficult set of circumstances.

So do you think that the original decision to cancell the whole weekend of footy beacause of the state of one ground is a sound decision? The correct decision was eventually made and full marks to them for that, but it appears this would not have happened if the right people had not complained. Nothing wrong with constructive critisism, or do the board sit in a glass house and think they are immune from any flack at all.

Well said 'spot on'. Decisions like that can't be made without some sort of obvious backlash. Perhaps the HFL should've remained tight lipped until a firm decision was made after consultation with all clubs involved.

I do agree with that last bit. But in fairness, they were probably trying to ensure everyone was notified as early as possible.

[devilsadvocate]

seems like a few people have gone off before knowing any facts this arvo. So unusual for learned posters on this site. For anyone interested in actual facts, there was a pipe under the loby oval that burst around 11.00am this morning. The groundsman called the council immediately to see if they could come and repair the damage. Council arrived around 1.00pm. Council workers in consultation with Loby committee members and HFL board member decided playing surface could not be repaired and would be unsafe for play on Sat. HFL board member started immediately looking for alternative venue. When I was called at around 1.30pm to be advised final was to be relocated, Balhannah was the likely venue. I would think it unlikely that cancelling the weeks games was ever a possibility that was considered by the board but stand corrected if someone has any evidence other than footy forum histeria to back this up.

thanks for the background info.
An email was sent out to all clubs stating the the weekends games were cancelled. No hysteria.

[Armytank]

lofty beats barker by a few points in the B's

[Armytank]

Uraidla up 2 goals to one at qtr time

[devilsadvocate]

lofty beats barker by a few points in the B's

up the super b's.
Another GF.
Well done lads.

[Armytank]

MtBarker 3:2 to Uradla 2:6 @ half time