Rd 14 North v Eagles Post Game Reviews

[on the rails]

Well according to Healy he isn't flooding, just that North have been 'accused' of doing so from time to time.
I haven't met a North supporter yet who believes what Healy says.

Well not entirely true - I believe what he says in today's paper that he takes full blame for our poor performances!

P.s. According to Healy it's not flooding - just getting numbers behind the ball!

[Booney]

Serious question otr - Will Healy see his time to the end of 2011 out?

[JK]

Another serious question for Rooster fans ... IF (hypothetical I know) the board had privately decided Healy's time was up, would North be better served with a caretaker coach in place specifically to look at future prospects and reset the boundaries of team discipline and selection etc?

Worked well for Norwood with Cotton last year, although the 2 clubs are likely not in the same situation, but wondered whether it would be worth thought at Roosterland?

[on the rails]

Serious question otr - Will Healy see his time to the end of 2011 out?

To be honest - not sure? My mail is that if he didn't make the 5 that he would walk away and that is looking increasingly likely re missing the finals. Either we have a massive turn around or he is gone and that seems to be the thoughts of most who are still bothering to turn up each week. He will see out 2010 I would think although CP's thoughts have merit and many at North think that might be a good option.

Whilst you can't blame the coach for everything, the game plan and defensive mind set, poor recruiting, injury management and some of his selections are his fault IMO and they are not helping in the confidence and morale of the players however he doesn't coach players not to show any desire, intensity etc or to fumble, be hesitant, not chase, not tackle, be harder at it and go for the full 120 minutes or to have poor foot and hand disposals and not kick gettable goals so the players are at blame for most of that HOWEVER easier to get rid of one coach rather than 20 odd players!

We have gone backwards this year rapidly and after accepting last year was a rebuild to a certain degree with the number of players he turned over plus the players getting used to the "new game plan" we still finished 5th and considering the outs we had for the Elimination Final we put up a good fight in the end however not making the finals in 2010 is just unacceptable given the $$$ and resources we have plus the supposed strong playing list.

[Booney]

Serious question otr - Will Healy see his time to the end of 2011 out?

To be honest - not sure? My mail is that if he didn't make the 5 that he would walk away and that is looking increasingly likely re missing the finals. Either we have a massive turn around or he is gone and that seems to be the thoughts of most who are still bothering to turn up each week. He will see out 2010 I would think although CP's thoughts have merit and many at North think that might be a good option.

Whilst you can't blame the coach for everything, the game plan and defensive mind set, poor recruiting, injury management and some of his selections are his fault IMO and they are not helping in the confidence and morale of the players however he doesn't coach players not to show any desire, intensity etc or to fumble, be hesitant, not chase, not tackle, be harder at it and go for the full 120 minutes or to have poor foot and hand disposals and not kick gettable goals so the players are at blame for most of that HOWEVER easier to get rid of one coach rather than 20 odd players!

We have gone backwards this year rapidly and after accepting last year was a rebuild to a certain degree with the number of players he turned over plus the players getting used to the "new game plan" we still finished 5th and considering the outs we had for the Elimination Final we put up a good fight in the end however not making the finals in 2010 is just unacceptable given the $$$ and resources we have plus the supposed strong playing list.

Must be of some real concern. The playing list is strong, good enough to be at the top of the table and as you mention, money and resources are fairly well bottomless. I would think the board would be seriously considering a new direction.

[matt1]

Eagles did what they HAD to do - win the game.

North kept us in the game in 1st half - shocking ball handling errors.

WHAT IS GODDEN DOING ????

Handball backwards constantly.
Handball around in circles to players FLAT FOOTED.

It MUST be a directive from the coach - no other explanation!

Although the jury is still out on his coaching - I must say that Saturday's display was the WORST I've seen in a long time!
Anyone who defends those tactics - needs their 'head red' IMO.
Appauling!

Look @ the BEST - Centrals.
Do they do it?
I think not.

Go easy on the redhead jokes.....

The only thing that the jury is out on is your constant snipes at the coach...

[SANFLnut]

PS
I can not be called a bandwagon fan. I go to training twice a week (depending on over time at work).and get to games pre the seconds starting.Doesn't matter if we win or not I'm there !!

Mickyj, having seen the two's this week should Symmons be in your league side ahead of some guys that are getting a game? He always seems to play well against West and he can play in all areas of the ground. Anyone else in there pushing to get in - Jahan Jacky?

[robranisgod]

Must be of some real concern. The playing list is strong, good enough to be at the top of the table and as you mention, money and resources are fairly well bottomless. I would think the board would be seriously considering a new direction.

I have to query whether the playing list is in fact strong. On Saturday we had at least six players in the seniors who are just not league footballers. Perhaps at full strength the playing list might be strong, but like every team in the comp other than Centrals we can't afford to have injuries.

Please don't take this to be an excuse for Healy's coaching, our style of play is abysmal and even at full strength we may not kick enough goals to win against any decent opposition.

I worry for the SANFL when I see the styles of play that are being implemented by most of the teams. Watching the Eagles and North on Saturday reminded me of under 8s with all of the players on the ball, I actually thought that the Eagles probably flooded back even more than North, the inside 50s suggest that, and it gives rise to the ugliest football match imaginable.

[topsywaldron]

I would think the board would be seriously considering a new direction.

Or even better, the members might be considering a new board?

How many signatures for a special General Meeting OTR?

[johntheclaret]

Who is the Rooster's goal kicking coach? Assuming they have one..? Been diobolical in that area this year.

Didnt think we needed one its not as though we really have alot of shots on goal

Don't agree with that
We've had more scoring shots than the Eagles over the two games and this is happening nearly every week. It's not shots at goal that's the problem, it's accuracy

[Dog_ger]

Who is the Rooster's goal kicking coach? Assuming they have one..? Been diobolical in that area this year.

Didnt think we needed one its not as though we really have alot of shots on goal

Don't agree with that
We've had more scoring shots than the Eagles over the two games and this is happening nearly every week. It's not shots at goal that's the problem, it's accuracy

A young team.

Keep em playing together.

They will improve johntheclaret

[Mic]

Serious question otr - Will Healy see his time to the end of 2011 out?

To be honest - not sure? My mail is that if he didn't make the 5 that he would walk away and that is looking increasingly likely re missing the finals. Either we have a massive turn around or he is gone and that seems to be the thoughts of most who are still bothering to turn up each week. He will see out 2010 I would think although CP's thoughts have merit and many at North think that might be a good option.

Whilst you can't blame the coach for everything, the game plan and defensive mind set, poor recruiting, injury management and some of his selections are his fault IMO and they are not helping in the confidence and morale of the players however he doesn't coach players not to show any desire, intensity etc or to fumble, be hesitant, not chase, not tackle, be harder at it and go for the full 120 minutes or to have poor foot and hand disposals and not kick gettable goals so the players are at blame for most of that HOWEVER easier to get rid of one coach rather than 20 odd players!

We have gone backwards this year rapidly and after accepting last year was a rebuild to a certain degree with the number of players he turned over plus the players getting used to the "new game plan" we still finished 5th and considering the outs we had for the Elimination Final we put up a good fight in the end however not making the finals in 2010 is just unacceptable given the $$$ and resources we have plus the supposed strong playing list.

Must be of some real concern. The playing list is strong, good enough to be at the top of the table and as you mention, money and resources are fairly well bottomless. I would think the board would be seriously considering a new direction.

The playing list is not strong.

[locky801]

The playing list is strong, perhaps attitude isnt and the question must be asked why

[Mic]

The playing list is strong, perhaps attitude isnt and the question must be asked why

Cos the playing list isn't that strong...

[Mickyj]

PS
I can not be called a bandwagon fan. I go to training twice a week (depending on over time at work).and get to games pre the seconds starting.Doesn't matter if we win or not I'm there !!

Mickyj, having seen the two's this week should Symmons be in your league side ahead of some guys that are getting a game? He always seems to play well against West and he can play in all areas of the ground. Anyone else in there pushing to get in - Jahan Jacky?

Jacky actually played a good game for Jacky that is against West .I was surprised he was dropped to the seconds.
Symmons is a fan favourite but I think his league time has passed him by.On the games he played league this year he has been shown up pace wise .Let alone his goal kicking.

[Mickyj]

Eagles did what they HAD to do - win the game.

North kept us in the game in 1st half - shocking ball handling errors.

WHAT IS GODDEN DOING ????

Handball backwards constantly.
Handball around in circles to players FLAT FOOTED.

It MUST be a directive from the coach - no other explanation!

Although the jury is still out on his coaching - I must say that Saturday's display was the WORST I've seen in a long time!
Anyone who defends those tactics - needs their 'head red' IMO.
Appauling!

Look @ the BEST - Centrals.
Do they do it?
I think not.

Go easy on the redhead jokes.....

The only thing that the jury is out on is your constant snipes at the coach...

Funny thing is it has been reported in the media(i think or online any way) "GODS" went off at half time .So LEH comments are clearly wrong .Perhaps pressure or perceived pressure from North caused the handballing errors .
The other thing I notice LEH is not giving "GODS" any credit for the TACKLING drill both league and seconds teams were doing Wednesday night.
From my point of view a lot of the things that many Eagles fans are crying/complaining about .Are game style/plan changes that "GODS" is trying to drill into the teams.
So many complaints from Eagles fans on Saturday .If some took the time to think we are trying to change to a new game plan.Many of the successful movements forward or tackles broken packs crashed .Done by both grades on Saturday stem back to training drills started in November 09.I sat in the stands at thebby and watched the guys doing them.
Don't give up Eagles fans .We are in the five .

[LPH]

Eagles did what they HAD to do - win the game.

North kept us in the game in 1st half - shocking ball handling errors.

WHAT IS GODDEN DOING ????

Handball backwards constantly.
Handball around in circles to players FLAT FOOTED.

It MUST be a directive from the coach - no other explanation!

Although the jury is still out on his coaching - I must say that Saturday's display was the WORST I've seen in a long time!
Anyone who defends those tactics - needs their 'head red' IMO.
Appauling!

Look @ the BEST - Centrals.
Do they do it?
I think not.

Go easy on the redhead jokes.....

The only thing that the jury is out on is your constant snipes at the coach...

WTF???
When have I sniped Godden?
Go back & READ the previous 700 + posts, pal.

As for those of us prepared to question tactics, MickyJ - I again ask "Do Centrals do it?"

Once again, supporters such as yourself are prepared to accept MEDIOCRITY - & THAT is the reason we continue to be a 'middle-of-the-road team & club!

If we are to SURVIVE as a club - this sort of ACCEPTANCE must change.

[ferret]

I know the Coach was impressed by Symmon's game at halfback in the reserves against Westies. Could replace Geddes at halfback this week. Another possible inclusion could be Salter, I see he is listed to be tested. Petrenko also could be included especially if Porplycia is recalled to the Crows.

I feel Hoban has to be relegated to the reserves and Miles reinstated as the second ruckman. Goldsworthy most probably needs to return to the reserves to regain some form. Staples last two games at halfback for the reserves have been excellent and also could be a league contender.

[ferret]

For those that might be interested. The Eagles have already played 40 players in their league team this year. This will definitely increase, with AFL players like Burton and Petrenko likely to be included soon and possibly the inclusion of U18 state players when the U18 carnival is finished.

[nickname]

For those that might be interested. The Eagles have already played 40 players in their league team this year.

And they reckon Westies flood.