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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby redandblack » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:03 pm

Thanks for your usual irrelevant reply, Centurion.

PS: I wasn't impressed with the Norwood captain shouting a four letter word to the grandstand crowd with a minute or two to go.

Average.
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby CENTURION » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:06 pm

redandblack wrote:Thanks for your usual irrelevant reply, Centurion.

PS: I wasn't impressed with the Norwood captain shouting a four letter word to the grandstand crowd with a minute or two to go.

Average.

OFFS, lighten up please, I try to see the lighter side of everything, don't take everything so seriously. You are dead for a very long time ;)
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby CENTURION » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:13 pm

BTW, how were the pies & the beer?
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby mal » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:15 pm

Just a question in any game of flooding
If one team places 2-3 extra in defence, what should the opposition do ?
Flood
Or send those numbers up forward as well ?

UMPIRES
In WA favour until 3/4 time
Then NW got the decisions in the last qtr
And to think some people on SAFOOTY think that the umps make no difference
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby pels » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:16 pm

Terrible game of football and thankfully norwood got the 2 points and that’s about all they can take out of the game.
Why don't teams back the talent in your squad and go attack the game instead of being defensive and creating a dreadful viewing game.
I go to the SANFL to watch football not what I saw today at the parade.
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:37 pm

mal wrote:Just a question in any game of flooding
If one team places 2-3 extra in defence, what should the opposition do ?
Flood
Or send those numbers up forward as well ?

UMPIRES
In WA favour until 3/4 time
Then NW got the decisions in the last qtr
And to think some people on SAFOOTY think that the umps make no difference


The most effective way to beat a flood is to get the ball forward quickly and hit targets effectively. That is where Norwood failed, our disposal at times was very poor today. West only had 18 men behind centre when we had the ball. When we were able to force a turnover (and there were plenty of those), we didn't spot players up effectively enough to make it count.

With your comment about umpires, I haven't yet reached the point where I think they determine the result, but I've got to the stage where I've had a gutful. Once again we saw another display that had supporters on both sides scratching their heads in disbelief, and I think the time has come for the SAFL to have a forum at the end of the season, lock coaches and umpires in a room and don't let them out until umpires understand the game is about the players, not the damned umpires :evil:
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:40 pm

pels wrote:I go to the SANFL to watch football not what I saw today at the parade.


Yes, I know what you mean. It took awhile for me to be pleased about winning today's game. All I felt for about 30 minutes afterwards was relief, no joy. I honestly feel I'd rather lose a high quality game than win a crap one. Winning is important, but surely it's not so important we have to bastardize a great game in order to make it happen.
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby redandblack » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:47 pm

I agree with you about the type of footy, AH, but I took a very close look at the tactics today.

Norwood haven't been scoring much, I believe and perhaps it's not just one team flooding, but to say it's just one team causing the spectacle shows (IMO) that you're only seeing what you have pre-determined. As I said earlier, as proof of this (as opposed to opinion), I specifically pointed out to some Norwood fans that the Legs were often starting with three (3!!!) extra men in defence.

I'd like Westies to kick more goals, but I'd like an extra dangerous forward or two to help that.

I also thought some of our defenders were very good today.
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby NFC » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:54 pm

Cannot believe anyone could honestly like today's game. Was horrible.
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby ca » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:57 pm

redandblack wrote:I don't think this was a game decided by the umpires, although I thought West's momentum was stopped by a few decisions.

It must be a record, though, for one team to get 3 of their 8 goals from one umpire's 25 or 50 metere penalties. Hello Tony ;)

As for flooding, knowing this would be the usual refrain, I pointed out to a well-known and respected Leg's fan that Norwood often started with not just 1 man behind the ball, not just 2, but THREE men behind the ball today.

That's footy.

I agree with Thiele; it was a hard, tough game, in the balance nearly all day.


Its happened in at least three of the games we have played this year. Norwood v South and both games between Norwood and Sturt.
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby Bluedemon » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:00 pm

did porplyzia play?
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby NFC » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:05 pm

kookas wrote:did porplyzia play?

Yes, kicked 2, looked pretty good.
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby CUTTERMAN » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:06 pm

Have other teams started to work out the Legs? I heard that Bass was told of parts of Powers game plan and the first time it was implemented was against sturt at the parade, given that the Power suck and maybe a few other clubs are starting to work out Norwood are they now being severly challenged? :-k
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby topsywaldron » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:15 pm

redandblack wrote:I pointed out to a well-known and respected Legs fan


Thought I saw you talking to him r'n'b. :D

As I may have mentioned to you after that though I honestly thought the result was a victory for football. Whilst Norwood may have started with loose men behind the ball it's what they did when they had it which was the difference imho. Too often West had to go laterally as they simply didn't have any kind of numbers ahead of the ball to attack meaningfully. While Norwood's skill level was down I reckon their intent when they got the ball was to go forward and try and score goals.

I don't believe that was the case often enough for West's players today.
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby bloods08 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:21 pm

topsywaldron wrote:
redandblack wrote:I pointed out to a well-known and respected Legs fan


Thought I saw you talking to him r'n'b. :D

As I may have mentioned to you after that though I honestly thought the result was a victory for football. Whilst Norwood may have started with loose men behind the ball it's what they did when they had it which was the difference imho. Too often West had to go laterally as they simply didn't have any kind of numbers ahead of the ball to attack meaningfully. While Norwood's skill level was down I reckon their intent when they got the ball was to go forward and try and score goals.

I don't believe that was the case often enough for West's players today.


Good point and unfortunately I agree.
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby hottie » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:31 pm

Wasnt a good game to watch,mistakes made from start of game and Norwood was awarded free kicks in last quarter which were lucky,West lost it when player got reported and gave away 50 metre penalty.Having seen both teams play throughout season,only seen West play attacking footy in first game of year against North.Norwood have played differently since round 5,and for them to win today against West style of play will help them to cope better in future.Roy Laird said when they beat West a few weeks ago,that it was a great lesson to play against a team that chooses to go defensive.
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:34 pm

CUTTERMAN wrote:Have other teams started to work out the Legs? I heard that Bass was told of parts of Powers game plan and the first time it was implemented was against sturt at the parade, given that the Power suck and maybe a few other clubs are starting to work out Norwood are they now being severly challenged? :-k


Believe it if you like, but the bottom line is there is nothing to "work out" with Norwood, we have been playing long and direct footy, hitting the ball and tackling hard. It's not rocket science, just good basic footy. Against Sturt we didn't tackle anywhere near as hard as we have been doing, we didn't get numbers to the ball, it was lacklustre. Today, we had enough chances to score more than we did but just didn't use the ball well. It was simply a poor performance ... which we still managed to win.
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby mal » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:38 pm

Christopher Tractor Prime I believe kicked 5 goals in a qtr today in the bush today
Is it time for a recall to the legs ?

Todays game resembled a bush B grade game at times, so the Tractor might excell
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby pels » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:50 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
CUTTERMAN wrote:Have other teams started to work out the Legs? I heard that Bass was told of parts of Powers game plan and the first time it was implemented was against sturt at the parade, given that the Power suck and maybe a few other clubs are starting to work out Norwood are they now being severly challenged? :-k


Believe it if you like, but the bottom line is there is nothing to "work out" with Norwood, we have been playing long and direct footy, hitting the ball and tackling hard. It's not rocket science, just good basic footy. Against Sturt we didn't tackle anywhere near as hard as we have been doing, we didn't get numbers to the ball, it was lacklustre. Today, we had enough chances to score more than we did but just didn't use the ball well. It was simply a poor performance ... which we still managed to win.


Exactly right its not rocket science pretty simple footy
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Re: Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

Postby redandblack » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:53 pm

OK, you're all convinced that West flood and Norwood play a game for the purists, but no Legs fan has yet answered my assertion that you often started with 3 men behind the ball.

As I said, I pointed this out during the game as it happened. Fact.

Is it just vaguely possible that Norwood won because they were a bit more poised under pressure in the last 15 minutes than West. The game could have gone either way until then.

Just repeating, anyone want to dispute that Norwood played an extra 3 men in defence?

If so, be prepared to back it up with fact :)
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