Port Adelaide's Finances

[Wedgie]

Quite simple Booney and Ive explained it several times before, the Power are an entity created for the AFL in 1996.
Nothing can or will ever make them the real Port formed in the 1800s. It's just a simple fact.

[Booney]

Take a step back in time to 1996. The Port Adelaide Football Club is about to ( and did ) enter the AFL, what needs to be done for them to be considered the 'real' Port Adelaide.

[auto]

Quite simple Booney and Ive explained it several times before, the Power are an entity created for the AFL in 1996.
Nothing can or will ever make them the real Port formed in the 1800s. It's just a simple fact.

Dont think its a fact, just your opinion.

Interesting to think what is it that actually defines a footy club?
And using this line of thinking which is the real Port Adelaide, or are they both the real Port Adelaide. Pretty sure the majority of people will define a footy club in this instance to suit their argument rather than the other way round.
IMO we're both clubs and always will be....and to anyone who doesnt!

[dedja]

You're wasting your time Booney ... you can't argue against people who let ignorance and vengeance get in the way of facts.

[JK]

Quite simple Booney and Ive explained it several times before, the Power are an entity created for the AFL in 1996.
Nothing can or will ever make them the real Port formed in the 1800s. It's just a simple fact.

Dont think its a fact, just your opinion.

Interesting to think what is it that actually defines a footy club?
And using this line of thinking which is the real Port Adelaide, or are they both the real Port Adelaide. Pretty sure the majority of people will define a footy club in this instance to suit their argument rather than the other way round.
IMO we're both clubs and always will be....and to anyone who doesnt!

I think to a lot of people's minds, there's no way you could package the Port of old and plonk it into a corporate competition whilst still retaining that feeling of old school Port .. Without ever being allowed to stay the Magpies in the prison bars a lot of people weren't going to accept they are/were the same club.

Im not arguing they are or aren't, just highlighting how difficult a gig it is and has been for Port to get the ALL of the old faithful to jump codes with them and still attract new supporters.

As AW stated, I've personally always accepted there are two Ports, both from the same origins.

[Barto]

You're wasting your time Booney ... you can't argue against people who let ignorance and vengeance get in the way of facts.

Yes, vengeance. It was the rest of us that sent Port broke out of spite.

[dedja]

LOL

[Barto]

Especially Glenelg! Lucky North took the rap for you.

[dedja]

Hail the Emperor!

[White Line Fever]

Port Power are Port Power.
Port Adelaide Adelaide Magpies are Port Adelaide Adelaide Magpies.
Adelaide Crows are Adelaide Crows.

It isn't rocket science.
Fremantle don't go under the WAFL banner of East Fremantle.
Port Power was formed in 1997, and prior to that (similiar to the Crows) have no history.

Unless it was a merger of some sort, whereas Port Adelaide Magpies would have folded, they cannot justify claiming a link to the PAFC.

Case closed.

[dedja]

Unless it was a merger of some sort, whereas Port Adelaide Magpies would have folded, they cannot justify claiming a link to the PAFC.

Ahem ... in legal terms I suspect that Port Magpies is the new entity and the 1870 Port Adelaide entity entered the AFL.

[Media Park]

Unless it was a merger of some sort, whereas Port Adelaide Magpies would have folded, they cannot justify claiming a link to the PAFC.

Ahem ... in legal terms I suspect that Port Magpies is the new entity and the 1870 Port Adelaide entity entered the AFL.

correct

[Media Park]

Port Adelaide Football Club, est. 1870 currently plays in the AFL.
Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club is a newer entity in the SANFL.

But they like to claim the success of the former from its time in the AFL.

No surprise that the newer, less prosperous PAMFC is in disarray.

[The Dark Knight]

Unless it was a merger of some sort, whereas Port Adelaide Magpies would have folded, they cannot justify claiming a link to the PAFC.

Ahem ... in legal terms I suspect that Port Magpies is the new entity and the 1870 Port Adelaide entity entered the AFL.

Right you are Dedja.

[White Line Fever]

Unless it was a merger of some sort, whereas Port Adelaide Magpies would have folded, they cannot justify claiming a link to the PAFC.

Ahem ... in legal terms I suspect that Port Magpies is the new entity and the 1870 Port Adelaide entity entered the AFL.

If that is indeed the case, then what was all the fuss when the SANFL Magpies nearly folded?
Who cares about a club that has only been in the SANFL for 13 years?
Let them die and continue your support with the Power.
Port supporters can't have their cake and eat it too.

[Wedgie]

Ive got facts on my side, I too was disillusioned like some on here, go check out the business registry, also check out which players had to sign contracts with a new business when looking at the players that stayed in the SANFL club or moved to the AFL club and get back to me, otherwise you have nothing.
The Port Adelaide Football Club changed their name late in 1996 to the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club. The Power took on the old name and registered a completely new business to attach this too. Simarly to the way the VFL changed their name to the AFL despite being the same competition and simiarly to the way that the Adelaide Football Club in 2010 isn't the same Adelaide Football Club in the last 1800s. Its all very simple for anyone with half a brain. All facts, no opinions. I've seen the relevent documents, I would hazard to guess those who on this thread say otherwise haven't or choose to ignore it if they have.

I will however admit it is purely an opinion that a 2nd composite side would be doing a hell of a lot better though for this state though, I'll admit that but I have a better idea than most when it comes to these things. They'd be making more money, have more success, have more members and have a hell of a lot more people at games IMHO.

[White Line Fever]

Ive got facts on my side, I too was disillusioned like some on here, go check out the business registry, also check out which players had to sign contracts with a new business when looking at the players that stayed in the SANFL club or moved to the AFL club and get back to me, otherwise you have nothing.
The Port Adelaide Football Club changed their name late in 1996 to the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club. The Power took on the old name and registered a completely new business to attach this too. Simarly to the way the VFL changed their name to the AFL despite being the same competition and simiarly to the way that the Adelaide Football Club in 2010 isn't the same Adelaide Football Club in the last 1800s. Its all very simple for anyone with half a brain. All facts, no opinions. I've seen the relevent documents, I would hazard to guess those who on this thread say otherwise haven't or choose to ignore it if they have.

I will however admit it is purely an opinion that a 2nd composite side would be doing a hell of a lot better though for this state though, I'll admit that but I have a better idea than most when it comes to these things. They'd be making more money, have more success, have more members and have a hell of a lot more people at games IMHO.

1886, what a year.

I'm still living off that premiership.

[Psyber]

Unless it was a merger of some sort, whereas Port Adelaide Magpies would have folded, they cannot justify claiming a link to the PAFC.

Ahem ... in legal terms I suspect that Port Magpies is the new entity and the 1870 Port Adelaide entity entered the AFL.

On another thread, which I can't find at the moment, someone pointed out that the Magpies still have the original registration number, and have just had a name change attached to it.
By contrast, the Power have the new registration number issued in 1996 or 1997.
The registration details and numbers were quoted IIRC.
That seems to establish the PAMFC as the original entity in legal terms.

[auto]

What defines a club ??? Its supporters, members, guernsey, emblem, players, sponsors, its home ground, its clubrooms??? Due to conflicts the guernsey and emblem changed but the majority of what makes the Port Adelaide Football Club what it is moved to the AFL.

One other thing went from the SANFL side to the AFL side....the hatred from other SANFL/Crows supporters....yet they all claim its a different club....go figure!

[hottie]

Just find it stupid how they claim all the premierships from the sanfl.Finances they are always struggling,but have to stop cracking the sads and be positive.When Eddie took over presidency at Collingwood they were in debt,but turned them around with getting sponsors on board and invest in adventures that majority have worked.