Who is the "Greatest Ever Sportsman"?

Bombers4EVA · Post by **Bombers4EVA** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:08 pm

Who do you personally believe would be the "Greatest Ever Sportsman or Sportswoman"? Me personally I reckon it would have to be "The Fed Express".

MW · Post by MW » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:12 pm

Well it's not Mundine even though he keeps saying it is

Post by **Footy Chick** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:18 pm

Wrong forum dude ;-)

Would you like me to move it to the general discussion board for you?

Booney · Post by **Booney** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:27 pm

I believe it is Federer and anyone trying to dispute it is kidding themselves and I hate, hate tennis.

hollywood7477 · Post by **hollywood7477** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:29 pm

There is a few but in the PC world wouldnt it be sports person. Id go Federer, Serena, Jordan, Schumacher, Kelly Slater, Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps, Jackie Joyner Kersee.

If Federer didnt win the French would we still have him higher than Nadal

MW · Post by MW » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:32 pm

Booney wrote:I believe it is Federer and anyone trying to dispute it is kidding themselves and I hate, hate tennis.

Is it though?
Ali
Bradman
Jordan
Nicklaus

Just a few that spring to mind who would be at least on par to Federer in their chosen sports.

bennymacca · Post by **bennymacca** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:35 pm

Booney wrote:I believe it is Federer and anyone trying to dispute it is kidding themselves and I hate, hate tennis.

I love Federer but he isn’t even the greatest tennis player ever let alone greatest sportsperson. That would be Serena Williams. For tennis that is

(Though the title does say sportsman so maybe I’m nit picking a bit [emoji3])

The Bedge · Post by **The Bedge** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:43 pm

Serena Williams - 783 wins, 130 losses (85.76%), 23 Grand slams, career titles 72
Roger Federer - 1139 wins, 250 losses (82.00%), 20 Grand slams, career titles 96

Williams was head and shoulders above her competition for a long time, but i'm sorry for me Federer is the greater out of the two - his competition has been I believe harder over the journey.

Both greats in their own right though.

The Bedge · Post by **The Bedge** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:49 pm

MW wrote:Well it's not Mundine even though he keeps saying it is

Like him or not, Mundine would rank among Australians greatest ever sportsmen.

Professional Rugby League player and arguably the best play maker in the game at one point, premiership player, NSW State of Origin representative, then moved to boxing and has been a professional boxer for best part of 18 years - 48 wins from 56 fights and world champion in 3 weight divisions.

The ability to dominate/sustain success in two vastly different professional fields over a 25yr period alone is a feat.

Booney · Post by **Booney** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:56 pm

bennymacca wrote:
Booney wrote:I believe it is Federer and anyone trying to dispute it is kidding themselves and I hate, hate tennis.

I love Federer but he isn’t even the greatest tennis player ever let alone greatest sportsperson. That would be Serena Williams. For tennis that is

(Though the title does say sportsman so maybe I’m nit picking a bit [emoji3])

"Greatest Ever Sportsman/woman/person" in my view encompasses not just the athletic achievements of the person but the manner in which they conduct themselves on and off the playing arena. That's Federer.

morell · Post by **morell** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:59 pm

Michael Jordan

The Bedge · Post by **The Bedge** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:59 pm

Booney wrote:"Greatest Ever Sportsman/woman/person" in my view encompasses not just the athletic achievements of the person but the manner in which they conduct themselves on and off the playing arena. That's Federer.

Rubbish! Then they'd just be called "Greatest Ever Person" :lol:

Judge solely on their sporting achievements and contributions to the sport I say.

Booney · Post by **Booney** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:05 pm

The Bedge wrote:
Booney wrote:"Greatest Ever Sportsman/woman/person" in my view encompasses not just the athletic achievements of the person but the manner in which they conduct themselves on and off the playing arena. That's Federer.

Rubbish! Then they'd just be called "Greatest Ever Person"

Judge solely on their sporting achievements and contributions to the sport I say.

Sportsmanship is as important as winning when scraping the cream off the top of the sporting elite barrel.

We're comparing different sports, some played in 4 or 5 countries, some played world wide, in different era's, some professional some amateur, with different technology, clubs, rackets, bats and across two genders.

Something has to split the two and IMO it's the level of sportsmanship and humility shown by the true champions that elevates them above all else.

For mine, in the argument :

Federer
Jordan
Bradman
Slater
Ali
Pele
Gretsky
Phelps
Navratilova
Serena Williams
Graf
Ruth

The Bedge · Post by **The Bedge** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:06 pm

Booney wrote:For mine, in the argument :

Federer
Jordan
Bradman
Slater
Ali
Pele
Gretsky
Phelps

I like that list, wouldn't find many who'd argue.. but i'm not sure Michael Slater should be in there

bubba love · Post by **bubba love** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:08 pm

Andrew graham

The Bedge · Post by **The Bedge** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:10 pm

Where would these names stack up:

Woods
Bolt
Navratilova
Schumacher
Jesse Owens
Tom Brady
Babe Ruth

Lightning McQueen · Post by **Lightning McQueen** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:20 pm

Laurence Angwin

Corona Man · Post by **Corona Man** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:26 pm

Booney wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
Booney wrote:"Greatest Ever Sportsman/woman/person" in my view encompasses not just the athletic achievements of the person but the manner in which they conduct themselves on and off the playing arena. That's Federer.

Rubbish! Then they'd just be called "Greatest Ever Person"

Judge solely on their sporting achievements and contributions to the sport I say.

Sportsmanship is as important as winning when scraping the cream off the top of the sporting elite barrel.

We're comparing different sports, some played in 4 or 5 countries, some played world wide, in different era's, some professional some amateur, with different technology, clubs, rackets, bats and across two genders.

Something has to split the two and IMO it's the level of sportsmanship and humility shown by the true champions that elevates them above all else.

For mine, in the argument :

Federer
Jordan
Bradman
Slater
Ali
Pele
Gretsky
Phelps
Navratilova
Serena Williams
Graf
Ruth

+Nicklaus

Post by **Footy Chick** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:31 pm

The Bedge wrote:
MW wrote:Well it's not Mundine even though he keeps saying it is

Like him or not, Mundine would rank among Australians greatest ever sportsmen.

Professional Rugby League player and arguably the best play maker in the game at one point, premiership player, NSW State of Origin representative, then moved to boxing and has been a professional boxer for best part of 18 years - 48 wins from 56 fights and world champion in 3 weight divisions.

The ability to dominate/sustain success in two vastly different professional fields over a 25yr period alone is a feat.

You sir, are drunk! :lol:

Statistically, It's impossible to determine, how do you determine the greatness of any sportsperson over another in a different sport.

What makes Fed's 20 grand slams more impressive than Bradmans centuries, or Michael Jordans stats, or Ayrton Sennas F1 wins?

Booney · Post by **Booney** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:34 pm

Footy Chick wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
MW wrote:Well it's not Mundine even though he keeps saying it is

Like him or not, Mundine would rank among Australians greatest ever sportsmen.

Professional Rugby League player and arguably the best play maker in the game at one point, premiership player, NSW State of Origin representative, then moved to boxing and has been a professional boxer for best part of 18 years - 48 wins from 56 fights and world champion in 3 weight divisions.

The ability to dominate/sustain success in two vastly different professional fields over a 25yr period alone is a feat.

You sir, are drunk!

Statistically, It's impossible to determine, how do you determine the greatness of any sportsperson over another in a different sport.

What makes Fed's 20 grand slams more impressive than Bradmans centuries, or Michael Jordans stats, or Ayrton Sennas F1 wins?

How he conducts himself, that's how.