Crows Vs Dogs

[whufc]

here here, finally someone who agrees.
Cook, MacKay, Walker, Maric, Davis are all average at best footballers in the AFL currently.

Are you allowed to say that in this forum.
Seriously, enthusiastic fans do tend to get carried away and create stardom status for the players they like rather early.
Those players are promising, but not established, and a lot will depend on their coaching and development from now on.
I believe Neil Craig did a good job early developing the fitness and skills of the players he had, but I think the style has reached its limit.
You can't retain the edge by pushing the limits of cardio-respiratory fitness further and further forever.
The other teams wake up and catch up, and there is a limit to how far anyone's body can go along that route.
Going on trying to do that may harm player development, and the administration at the AFC needs to think about that now..

Yeah totally agree,

im not an anti Craig bloke but i think he may have got this group of players as far as he can, he has set a great foundation and now it will take someone different to guide them through to the next stage.

[tiger07andbeyond]

Gary McIntosh would be a good replacement or Mark Mickan

[whufc]

Gary McIntosh would be a good replacement or Mark Mickan

yeah proved that at Norwood

[Booney]

What is wrong with Vince.

I believe that the bad habits he has picked up this year are probably temporary.

1. He's not winning his own ball. Vince is hanging outside the packs waiting for the handball which is a sign of a poor work ethic and a lack of confidence. Obviously he's not an inside midfielder but he's just not getting his hands dirty at all. Occaisonaly even the outside mids have to go ferret the aggot out.

2. No second efforts. If first Vince doesn't get the pill there isn't much gut running coming from him at the moment.

3. Vince's handball to kick ratio has gone to the shithouse. The reason why he is doing this is because at the moment he is either turning the ball over or almost turning the ball over. Again this is down to a lack of confidence.

4. Craig has him doing the kick out duties when his confidence in his disposal is shot. Madness!

As a club champion it's obvious the guy can play but he has to rank as the most disappointing Crow this season in my book. Yes, Tippett has been poor but no forward is going to gun it with the delivery the Blackbirds are currently serving up. Have a go son you're part of the problem.

regards,

REB

Add to that :

5 : The loss of Shirley and poor form of Doughty means Thompson is playing a negating role in the mid-field. Thats one less bloke going to get it for Vince.

6 : Edwards is paddling and more often than not now he finds himself at a contest by accident and not design. Thats two less blokes going to get it for vince.

7 : van Berlo is clearly not fit and out of touch. This giving the opposition a chance to rotate run-with players on Vince and the odd attacking player making Vince accountable in the other direction.

8 : What CP said, post break-out year blues.

[Gingernuts]

Just watched the game on tape and thought there were actually some good signs last night.

As Leigh Matthews said, the effort was there, just not the execution. Disposal still poor and overuse of the handball, all been said already.

Tippett looked good though, I reckon he turned a corner last night. Davis was good also.

Optimistic we can chalk our first win up next week against Port and make something to build a season on.

[Felch]

Cook showed some SERIOUS class tonight, the stuff he does in traffic, the way he gets hands free, his tackling, he's gonna be a ripper.

Davis looks like a gun already, Schmidt after a wobbly start was very good.

I have to laugh at how highly you rate players who have done SFA.

J Brown is a gun.

P Davis is just struggling to find his feet.

I have to laugh how pedantic you are being. Any comment about someone being a gun was obviously relative to his experience and/or the Crows in general. No different to someone stating a SANFL player or SAAFL player is a gun - obviously next to Judd or Ablett they arent.

[X Runna]

>if you're going to comment on the Crows, can you NOT do it on the Crows board. The moderators have had enough of people trolling on the Crows and Power boards<

[NFC]

Cook showed some SERIOUS class tonight, the stuff he does in traffic, the way he gets hands free, his tackling, he's gonna be a ripper.

Davis looks like a gun already, Schmidt after a wobbly start was very good.

I have to laugh at how highly you rate players who have done SFA.

J Brown is a gun.

P Davis is just struggling to find his feet.

I have to laugh how pedantic you are being. Any comment about someone being a gun was obviously relative to his experience and/or the Crows in general. No different to someone stating a SANFL player or SAAFL player is a gun - obviously next to Judd or Ablett they arent.

THANKYOU!!

[X Runna]

>if you're going to comment on the Crows, can you NOT do it on the Crows board. The moderators have had enough of people trolling on the Crows and Power boards<

Oh diddums.....in that case the respective moderator is as weak as the Crows

>The rules are clearly set out viewtopic.php?f=33&t=24425<

[Hondo]

As it turns out (and it's no excuse) but our opening run was tougher than it looked:

Freo 4-1
Melbourne 3-2
Sydney 4-1
Bulldogs 3-2 (probable loss anyway)
Carlton 2-2 (should have won this)

As I said, it's no excuse

[Chuck Wepner]

As it turns out (and it's no excuse) but our opening run was tougher than it looked:

Freo 4-1
Melbourne 3-2
Sydney 4-1
Bulldogs 3-2 (probable loss anyway)
Carlton 2-2 (should have won this)

As I said, it's no excuse

guess what all those teams are thinking ? their opening run was easier than they thought !!!
what does it all mean ? absolutely nothing.. (until the end of round 22)

[Gingernuts]

As it turns out (and it's no excuse) but our opening run was tougher than it looked:

Freo 4-1
Melbourne 3-2
Sydney 4-1
Bulldogs 3-2 (probable loss anyway)
Carlton 2-2 (should have won this)

As I said, it's no excuse

Was thinking the same thing last night. It may have looked an 'easy' draw on last years form but that hasn't turned out the be the case.

One thing that is working in the Crows favour actually is that the competition is very even at the moment. Round 5 and no team is left undefeated, been a few years since that's happened. Makes the distance to claw back for a finals spot that little bit shorter.

[Hondo]

Add to that Carlton have now beat the reigning premier to be 3-2

[NFC]

More of a case of us playing other teams into form than actually playing good sides.

[redden whites]

As it turns out (and it's no excuse) but our opening run was tougher than it looked:

Freo 4-1
Melbourne 3-2
Sydney 4-1
Bulldogs 3-2 (probable loss anyway)
Carlton 2-2 (should have won this)

As I said, it's no excuse

Don't they have those records BECAUSE they have played the Crows?If you were about to play them in the next 5 weeks I could see your point.

[Hondo]

As it turns out (and it's no excuse) but our opening run was tougher than it looked:

Freo 4-1
Melbourne 3-2
Sydney 4-1
Bulldogs 3-2 (probable loss anyway)
Carlton 2-2 (should have won this)

As I said, it's no excuse

Don't they have those records BECAUSE they have played the Crows?If you were about to play them in the next 5 weeks I could see your point.

The Crows are one of their wins, yes. But we haven't played Freo or Sydney 4 times.

All those teams bar WB have been surprise packets to me.

[Choccies]

Listening to 5AA last night I was baffled to hear Bernie Vince repsond to the panel thoughts on their 'Handball Overuse Syndrome' by saying that in their team debrief they thought they didn't handball enough !!

Did anyone hear that and think it was rather strange ??