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Pre-season draft

Postby Sploosh » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:00 pm

A couple of questions:

1) When is it held?

2) Why does it even exist? Why can't all the eligible/nominated players be included in the "regular" draft? Why do clubs have to 'pass' during the regular draft, saving room for the pre-season draft, when it could all just be done at the same time. I know there must be a reason, but what is it?
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Postby sydney-dog » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:05 pm

Sploosh

the theory is it gives tme for clubs to re-access their needs after the NAB draft, clubs get the opportunity to invite out of contract players to train before making a final decision

the pre-season draft is held on the same day as the rookie draft, not all clubs we have a pre-season selection, for example Adelaide used all it's selections today so they will now be focused on the rookie draft
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Postby oldfella » Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:15 pm

The rookie draft is when I expect SANFL clubs to be hit hard - hope Adelaide & Port only grab local kids so they are available in the SANFL.
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Postby Sploosh » Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:51 pm

oldfella wrote:The rookie draft is when I expect SANFL clubs to be hit hard - hope Adelaide & Port only grab local kids so they are available in the SANFL.


Surely it wouldn't matter who Ad and PA grab as rookies? The important point from a SANFL point of view is that interstate clubs don't grab our local lads. Or am I (still) confused?

Also, what date is the pre-season draft?
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Postby sydney-dog » Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:55 pm

Sploosh

it matters a fair bit

their has been enormous success with the rookie draft, we have seen players such as Kirk, Cox, Rutten, Davey all come from the rookie draft
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Postby Sploosh » Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:57 pm

sydney-dog, yes, I agree about that, what I was meaning was that from a "Hope we keep our SANFL talent in Adelaide" perspective, Adelaide and PA can rookie-list anyone, and it wouldn't affect who of our local lads could still play in the SANFL.
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Postby oldfella » Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:33 pm

I am simply suggesting that every SA kid picked up by Adelaide/Port as rookie stays in the SANFL -- SA kids rookied interstate obviously lost to SANFL
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Postby sydney-dog » Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:38 pm

traditionally Clubs like the Kanga's and WB have struggled to be able to finance all four rookie selections, so when they do select rookies they chose them from their own state as they do not have to pay for the relocation costs
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Postby Blue Boy » Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:20 pm

sydney-dog wrote:traditionally Clubs like the Kanga's and WB have struggled to be able to finance all four rookie selections, so when they do select rookies they chose them from their own state as they do not have to pay for the relocation costs


Syd

Relocation not a factor at all - straight up cash is the problem in this area !!!

If any one really wanted to play in the AFL they would move any where - it is the base salary that kills them !!!
It is what it is !!!
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Re: Pre-season draft

Postby Sploosh » Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:50 pm

Sploosh wrote:
1) When is it held?



Would absolutely love it if someone would post the date of the pre-season draft...
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Postby sydney-dog » Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:53 pm

I heard an interview with Eade last year and he mentioned that the club could only afford one position on the rookie list and it had to be a local kid as the club could only afford the wages but no other costs such as relocation

obviously wages are the biggest cost, but those clubs with lower operation budgets also find it difficult to be able to meet relocation costs
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Postby oldfella » Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:30 pm

Sploosh - sorry for delay was hard to find

December 1: List lodgement (3) and international rookie player nominations

December 12: Pre-season draft and rookie draft

Nomination of Eligible Rookie Players (Brisbane Lions and Sydney)
10.15am Tuesday December 12

NAB AFL Rookie Draft
10.30am Tuesday December 12
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Postby Sploosh » Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:00 am

Oldfella, I really appreciate that information. Yes, I had found it very hard to locate too (well, actually I couldn't find it at all). Thanks, mate.
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Postby SimonH » Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:58 pm

As part of the bold new strategic plan announced by the AFL earlier in the year, all clubs will be forced to carry at least 4 rookies (they've received increases in funding to allow them to do it). Good news for SA kids (or at least that small minority of them who eventually get to play senior AFL footy); bad news for SA clubs.

The historical trend of clubs to draft rookies predominantly from their own state is now, sadly, over. Melbourne clubs are wise to the fact that they were creating a massive disadvantage for themselves by squabbling over tiny slices of the Victorian pie. Jason Roe, Luke McEntee, Jace Bode and Ed Lower were all taken by interstate clubs last year before Port or Adelaide even had their first pick.
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Postby Dutchy » Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:02 pm

Kangas now have a pick in the PSD after they delisted another....Skippy could still be a chance...
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Postby sydney-dog » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:00 pm

Dutchy

who did the Roo's de-list ?
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Postby Dutchy » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:23 pm

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Postby sydney-dog » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:33 pm

thanks mate
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Postby sydney-dog » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:35 pm

Tim Hutchinson - ex PA player on the way home
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