Sack Craig

[NFC]

What an absolute fool this man is.

He honestly thinks training 'form' is more important than what a player can offer on the ground in a GAME.

Dangerfield now in his bad books. Who next? This guy wil take us nowhere, sack him before it's too late.

[FD88]

Knee jerk reaction topic. Can't say I'm pleased to see Danger excluded again but there are still more NAB games to be played. We are playing -a lot- of kids in this comp which is what we we've been crying out for - if Danger doesn't get at least one hitout before the H&A season begins then I'll be asking questions, but for now I am hoping that extra bit of conditioning/prep is really all they're looking for, and there isn't something else going on here.

[NFC]

Armstrong should be playing over Sloane.

Schmidt and Dangerfield should both be in.

He's a joke and only cares about his precious training.

[Westsider]

Did craig tell him he has to ride another 500km on his pushbike before he can play?

[Psyber]

From the horses mouth - it sounds reasonable to me.
http://afc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabi ... fault.aspx

What concerns me more is that Neil Craig does seem to want the guys to be precise going into the forwards, and that results in hesitancy forward of centre and turnovers while they are looking for a foolproof pass opportunity. I'd prefer stronger contested marking targets up forward, some good crumbers around them, and faster movement into attack.

I don't think we are at "Sack Craig" yet, but I believe he needs to stop thinking only like a mid-fielder and make better use of the big men.

[Sorry Dude]

this thread should be taken straight off the forum. danger has not had the best pre season with some little niggles so craig has wrapped him up in cotton wool and making sure he is right for round 1. you dont show all your cards in the nab cup and it isnt even for anything now that we have been knocked out. the last thing that you want is a up and coming (possible future leader of the club) player to go out in a trial and get injured and miss the 1st half of the year when it could have been prevented. just my opinion though.

[Booney]

That's your opinion, just as NFC has his and no one would want your post removed from the forum.

I can NFC's point and I also see yours. My question is this. Do Adelaide think so highly of Dangerfield that they feel he can step right into the fray come Round 1 or 2 ? ( When he is fully fit? )

With the internchange rule in place for the NAB Cup surely even a 1/4 or so for Adelaide is better than anything he will get done over the weekend coming fitness wise.

I did hear Captain Snooze say that Dangerfield dissapointed the entire coaching staff with the way he showed up for pre season training, sounds like the lad did little work on his own in the off season. Perhaps too much smoke getting blown up his posterior and is getting ahead of himself,himself..?

[Sorry Dude]

he is playing in the internal for westies this weekend. granted there is a sub rule for the NAB cup. i agree with you in the fact that the hype has been very high on the young kid, have the crows not handled it as well as what they should have? i think brisbane have shown a perfect example of how to handle the media for the new "IT" kids from the draft. and did dangerfield get complaicent thinking that he is on an afl list and take his first off/ pre season a little half arsed?

[Dutchy]

For someone that loves to keep things "in house" Craigs tactics of giving honest reasons why he is not in the team to the media is curious

He doesnt understand the gameplan apparently, just let the kid play in a trial FFS! then make the call

[Rik E Boy]

That's your opinion, just as NFC has his and no one would want your post removed from the forum.

I can NFC's point and I also see yours. My question is this. Do Adelaide think so highly of Dangerfield that they feel he can step right into the fray come Round 1 or 2 ? ( When he is fully fit? )

With the internchange rule in place for the NAB Cup surely even a 1/4 or so for Adelaide is better than anything he will get done over the weekend coming fitness wise.

I did hear Captain Snooze say that Dangerfield dissapointed the entire coaching staff with the way he showed up for pre season training, sounds like the lad did little work on his own in the off season. Perhaps too much smoke getting blown up his posterior and is getting ahead of himself,himself..?

Captain Snooze!

regards,

REB

[Hondo]

What NFC and other impatient Crows fans need to accept is that it isn't all about them and that NC and Viney et al are in the best position to judge who should play when.

My take on the Dangerfield situation is that the coaching staff want to make sure there is no attitude like "I'm a talented, over-achieving gun who Mike Turner thinks is the best thing to come out of Geelong since Gary Ablett Jnr. Therefore, I only need to rock up to traing on Thursdays, take a few hangers, not bother with learning the game plan and then play centre on Saturday "

As Scott Thompson said on 5AA last night, Dangerfield will play before round 1 and will play a lot of games this year. He is a gun, no question. This is short term pain for long term gain.

Don't stress about a pre-season match in Alice Springs.

[Sorry Dude]

What NFC and other impatient Crows fans need to accept is that it isn't all about them and that NC and Viney et al are in the best position to judge who should play when.

My take on the Dangerfield situation is that the coaching staff want to make sure there is no attitude like "I'm a talented, over-achieving gun who Mike Turner thinks is the best thing to come out of Geelong since Gary Ablett Jnr. Therefore, I only need to rock up to traing on Thursdays, take a few hangers, not bother with learning the game plan and then play centre on Saturday "

As Scott Thompson said on 5AA last night, Dangerfield will play before round 1 and will play a lot of games this year. He is a gun, no question. This is short term pain for long term gain.


Don't stress about a pre-season match in Alice Springs.

[JK]

That's your opinion, just as NFC has his and no one would want your post removed from the forum.

I can NFC's point and I also see yours. My question is this. Do Adelaide think so highly of Dangerfield that they feel he can step right into the fray come Round 1 or 2 ? ( When he is fully fit? )

With the internchange rule in place for the NAB Cup surely even a 1/4 or so for Adelaide is better than anything he will get done over the weekend coming fitness wise.

I did hear Captain Snooze say that Dangerfield dissapointed the entire coaching staff with the way he showed up for pre season training, sounds like the lad did little work on his own in the off season. Perhaps too much smoke getting blown up his posterior and is getting ahead of himself,himself..?

Captain Snooze!

regards,

REB

Captain Snooze has actually been a registered trademark of the Norwood Football Club for the last 3 seasons

[Interceptor]

What concerns me more is that Neil Craig does seem to want the guys to be precise going into the forwards, and that results in hesitancy forward of centre and turnovers while they are looking for a foolproof pass opportunity. I'd prefer stronger contested marking targets up forward, some good crumbers around them, and faster movement into attack.

Exactly, this is the real problem, rather than Craig's management of individuals.

[FD88]

What NFC and other impatient Crows fans need to accept is that it isn't all about them and that NC and Viney et al are in the best position to judge who should play when.

My take on the Dangerfield situation is that the coaching staff want to make sure there is no attitude like "I'm a talented, over-achieving gun who Mike Turner thinks is the best thing to come out of Geelong since Gary Ablett Jnr. Therefore, I only need to rock up to traing on Thursdays, take a few hangers, not bother with learning the game plan and then play centre on Saturday "

As Scott Thompson said on 5AA last night, Dangerfield will play before round 1 and will play a lot of games this year. He is a gun, no question. This is short term pain for long term gain.

Don't stress about a pre-season match in Alice Springs.

Agreed, couldn't have said it better. You musn't forget that we've got a lot of quality people (case in point Viney) at this club who you'd back to make better decisions than most. My concern has been that there was something other than what was being told to us, happening between Dangerfield and the coaching staff. As long as that's not the case then I'm happy to accept the reasons we're given.

And yes Booney, I'd suggest the club does think that highly of Dangerfield. He's a super talent, already built like a tank and explosively quick. With a couple of games' experience from last year he'd probably go alright. Having said that I would be asking a few questions if he didn't get a NAB game or two before then.

[Dutchy]

and uncontracted at the end of 2009

[GWW]

and uncontracted at the end of 2009

is it correct Dangerfield has signed for 3 years? I think i heard that.

[FD88]

and uncontracted at the end of 2009

Nope, contracted until the end of 2010. He signed a three year deal as part of his study agreement (obviously so we would still get the regulation two years out of our draftee).

[Felch]

For someone that loves to keep things "in house" Craigs tactics of giving honest reasons why he is not in the team to the media is curious

He doesnt understand the gameplan apparently, just let the kid play in a trial FFS! then make the call

I think he is keeping things "in house", well the real reason why he isn't playing anyway.

Obviously more to the story than gameplan knowledge and training.

[NFC]

For someone that loves to keep things "in house" Craigs tactics of giving honest reasons why he is not in the team to the media is curious

He doesnt understand the gameplan apparently, just let the kid play in a trial FFS! then make the call

I can't believe I'm saying this, but very well said.