Sturt v Power trial game

[Wedgie]

What was the Port vs Port score? I'm guessing Port won.

I'm guessing Port lost but Im a glass half full sort of guy.

[heater31]

What was the Port vs Port score? I'm guessing Port won.

at one stage

Port was 22 points up at the end of the 1st third. Also Port were 22 points behind at the start of the 2nd third.

For arguments sake we will call it a draw

[zipzap]

The 1870 revisionism on the Puffs outfit would go down well with the Magpies I'd imagine

[purch]

Channel 9 news covered this match. Or more accurately, they spoke with Chad Cornes about various Power players while showing highlights. Sturt got no mention any further than the fact that it was the opponent. Port Power might as well have been playing with themselves. Would it really have hurt to have given an appraisal of the Sturt team and mention of the better players? It really is a sad indictment on how far football journalism has sunk in this country.

Not surprising. The AA radio broadcast was similar: "Chad is tackled by a Sturt player...but he gets it out to Burgoyne, who loses the ball to a Sturt player...I can't quite pick him up from here blah blah blah..."

Not to mention the all-in brawl at the beginning of he game with fists flying everywhere - makes you wonder if these AA blokes have seen any SANFL recently.

Oh, and apparently the Puffs were in a class of their own (after the first term)...well I never! FFS!
And these so called experts were going to have to think long and hard about who the best player was for Sturt...Mitch Farmer maybe? LOL

[am Bays]

How piss poor is the 'Mails write up today.

Virtually no mention of the real Port Adelaide or Sturt in the report. Best players and goal kickers for the 'Smears players only.

Scott Welsh how can you call yourself a journalist when you only report one team out there.

[zipzap]

How piss poor is the 'Mails write up today.

Virtually no mention of the real Port Adelaide or Sturt in the report. Best players and goal kickers for the 'Smears players only.

Scott Welsh how can you call yourself a journalist when you only report one team out there.

Ah yes, it must be footy season in Adelaide! Heard KG tell a caller yesterday he doesn't 'give a stuff' about anyone other than the Crows and Port. Ah Adelaide....Beautiful one day, myopic the next.

[71/72]

Its amazing that you can buy petrol for around $1.20 a litre but Port sell water at $3.80 a bottle. Work that one out?

[gadj1976]

Firstly, I was happy to wander down to Alberton to see Sturt play the Pooves.

I took my wife, 2 year old daughter, my wife's friend and 1 year old daughter.

We went and sat over near the scoreboard cos of the kids. Unfortunately though there's no grass at Alberton so the 1 year old (not walking) was crawling on gravel. They left after a quarter/third.

I didn't mind paying the $6 for a TED, however I noted that the prices were inflated and thought to myself that it was strange that a club trying to get people to their games would hike prices up for a family day.

About the game:

Disappointed that Sturt didn't field their strongest team but can understand it from the club's perspective. I was equally shocked that Port played at pretty much full strength but then again it's their last hit out before the pre season comp starts, so fair enough.

Couldn't understand why both Sturt and Port wore white shorts.

Glad that Port put black shorts on after quarter time.

I was really happy with Sturt's efforts. They were much shorter, much smaller, much 'slower' in comparison, so they did really well I thought. After a good start they died away in their efforts but overall a great learning experience.

About the broadcast and paper coverage:

If I was working at AA, and they asked me to broadcast a game between Port and any local SANFL side, I would make sure I knew the players of the local side. It's called having some integrity. If Port were playing West Perth I could 'sort' of understand them not knowing the players names, but because it's Sturt and PORT (FFS) then that's just garbage. Not providing the names of Port Magpies players via the broadcast will cause the chasm between Magpies and Power supporters to grow wider IMO.

AA and the Scumday Mail have shown their true colours.

[Barto]

The 1870 revisionism on the Puffs outfit would go down well with the Magpies I'd imagine

I swear that back when the Power was started up, Port in the SANFL were still the real deal and officially it was the Power who were the new club.

[zipzap]

The 1870 revisionism on the Puffs outfit would go down well with the Magpies I'd imagine

I swear that back when the Power was started up, Port in the SANFL were still the real deal and officially it was the Power who were the new club.

You're not alone. It's an old debate and I don't know care the legality of the two entities and all that, but it is true the Power marketing strategy was to actively distance themselves from the old club's history in an effort to appeal to a wider cross section during their early days. When that didn't work out they started to reclaim and rewrite the history as their own, going back to core Port fans for support (which has backfired badly judging by the drop off in support last year) and are now 'Living the Creed', their back-to-the-future slogan for 09. A shame because they lost a lot of support from those like myself who were genuinely interested in the Power as an alternative to the Crows, but had to overcome an innate hatred of the maggies.

Claiming that Cassisi is their 61st captain as he ran out against the Maggies yesterday was the ultimate betrayal / embarrassment IMO.

[am Bays]

The 1870 revisionism on the Puffs outfit would go down well with the Magpies I'd imagine

I swear that back when the Power was started up, Port in the SANFL were still the real deal and officially it was the Power who were the new club.

Booney to thread, Booney to thread...

*calls up CP and FC, and tells them to draw up a chair and wait for the fun*

[RustyCage]

The 1870 revisionism on the Puffs outfit would go down well with the Magpies I'd imagine

I swear that back when the Power was started up, Port in the SANFL were still the real deal and officially it was the Power who were the new club.

You're not alone. It's an old debate and I don't know care the legality of the two entities and all that, but it is true the Power marketing strategy was to actively distance themselves from the old club's history in an effort to appeal to a wider cross section during their early days. When that didn't work out they started to reclaim and rewrite the history as their own, going back to core Port fans for support (which has backfired badly judging by the drop off in support last year) and are now 'Living the Creed', their back-to-the-future slogan for 09. A shame because they lost a lot of support from those like myself who were genuinely interested in the Power as an alternative to the Crows, but had to overcome an innate hatred of the maggies.

Claiming that Cassisi is their 61st captain as he ran out against the Maggies yesterday was the ultimate betrayal / embarrassment IMO.

Only for people who dont understand and/or dont want to listen. Cassisi is the 61st captain of the club. The history of the Power and Magpies is widely available to read on both clubs websites, and also on the magpies website there is a comment by our CEO about the Magpies being very happy the Power have 1870 on their backs.

[CK]

The 1870 revisionism on the Puffs outfit would go down well with the Magpies I'd imagine

I swear that back when the Power was started up, Port in the SANFL were still the real deal and officially it was the Power who were the new club.

You're not alone. It's an old debate and I don't know care the legality of the two entities and all that, but it is true the Power marketing strategy was to actively distance themselves from the old club's history in an effort to appeal to a wider cross section during their early days. When that didn't work out they started to reclaim and rewrite the history as their own, going back to core Port fans for support (which has backfired badly judging by the drop off in support last year) and are now 'Living the Creed', their back-to-the-future slogan for 09. A shame because they lost a lot of support from those like myself who were genuinely interested in the Power as an alternative to the Crows, but had to overcome an innate hatred of the maggies.

Claiming that Cassisi is their 61st captain as he ran out against the Maggies yesterday was the ultimate betrayal / embarrassment IMO.

Only for people who dont understand and/or dont want to listen. Cassisi is the 61st captain of the club. The history of the Power and Magpies is widely available to read on both clubs websites, and also on the magpies website there is a comment by our CEO about the Magpies being very happy the Power have 1870 on their backs.

If they are one club - why do they have two websites, and why is there differentiation between Magpies and Power? Would that have made the second match yesterday an internal trial?

[Macca19]

Theres no point trying to educate those that dont wanna know. The PAFC has never promoted itself as anything but the PAFC est. 1870. Ever. Not hard to figure that out, but I guess its more fun for people to troll which is understandable.

I didn't mind paying the $6 for a TED, however I noted that the prices were inflated and thought to myself that it was strange that a club trying to get people to their games would hike prices up for a family day.

All proceeds going to the Vic bushfire appeal. I would have thought most people would have been happy paying those prices for a good cause.

The 1870 revisionism on the Puffs outfit would go down well with the Magpies I'd imagine

http://www.portmagpies.com.au/newsarchi ... ews_id=383

Halfway down.

[Barto]

FWIW: recently updated commercial websites are hardly a reference for history, anything can be written there.

We can debate which club is which until the cows come home, I'm not even interested in the argument as it's a circular argument and there's no doubt that the AFL PAFC is claiming that they are the keepers of Port Adelaide history. Now that Dom Casissi is "Port's 61st Captain", will Warren Tredrea no long be the clubs all time goal kicker and this honour goes to Tim Evans?

What I'd like to see is evidence either agreeing or contrary to whether back in the early days of Ports entry to the AFL, was an opposite scenario being presented by the club today?

[Barto]

All proceeds going to the Vic bushfire appeal. I would have thought most people would have been happy paying those prices for a good cause.

All catering profits as well? I thought it was only the gate, but if it was that as well, then good on them.

Having said that, I doubt the prices were inflated for the purpose of increasing returns for the fundraiser. Been out lately? It's freaking expensive if you want to drink. RTD's at the BDO this year were $11.

[Barto]

The PAFC has never promoted itself as anything but the PAFC est. 1870. Ever.

Utter revisionist rubbish.

Even if they were officially "PAFC est 1870" in the AFL, they swept that under the carpet to appeal to a broader support base from their own long time supporters. You only have to have seen the logo or heard the club song from their first years in the AFL to know this.

[Barto]

What was the Port vs Port score? I'm guessing Port won.

I'm guessing Port lost but Im a glass half full sort of guy.

It's like some sort of paradox, both Port fans and non-Port fans can walk away happy

[Macca19]

All proceeds going to the Vic bushfire appeal. I would have thought most people would have been happy paying those prices for a good cause.

All catering profits as well? I thought it was only the gate, but if it was that as well, then good on them.

Having said that, I doubt the prices were inflated for the purpose of increasing returns for the fundraiser. Been out lately? It's freaking expensive if you want to drink. RTD's at the BDO this year were $11.

I agree. I think the prices are what they are. I think people are forgetting the alcopop tax went up after footy season had finished.

Im pretty sure all profits went to the bushfire..but i am not 100% sure on this.

[Macca19]

The PAFC has never promoted itself as anything but the PAFC est. 1870. Ever.

Utter revisionist rubbish.

Even if they were officially "PAFC est 1870" in the AFL, they swept that under the carpet to appeal to a broader support base from their own long time supporters. You only have to have seen the logo or heard the club song from their first years in the AFL to know this.

Why does the logo matter? Ill steal a post from Adelaide Hawk from the AFL board.

The point he is trying to make is, their name is "Geelong". Cats are their logo, a sobriquet as it were ... a marketing tool. They are the Geelong Football Club, not the Geelong Cats Football Club. They should be referred to as either Geelong, or the Cats.

Our name is Port Adelaide. Power is the logo. We never were the Port POwer Football Club. Just because the club logo said Port Power on it....who the **** cares? Every single club logo in 1997 had the club name and nickname on it. So why is this important for Port Adelaide but no other club? Why dont people call it the Collingwood Magpies Football Club? Or the Adelaide Crows Football Club? Seems like theres one rule for Port and another rule for every other club in the league. Hawthorn dont have their club name on the logo either now...does this mean they are just the Hawks Footy Club?

As for the club song....'the might adelaide crows'...doesnt mean they are called the Adelaide Crows Football CLub. Essendon dont mention Essendon in their club song...does this mean they are the Bombers Football Club? No.

The club never pushed itself as anything other than Port Adelaide...the Port Adelaide....which is why they changed the logo and club song, because people were calling the club the wrong thing.