1901 State Side

[Mark_Beswick]

I have been re-entering State Side Data and have a slight problem for Game 2, 1901 SA v VFL.

On the Tuesday of 11-7-1901 the Former State Side vs SA Combined Side to choose a final side. In the trial, J. O'Brien played BUT the initial is a misprint as the O'Briens of 1901 were

WTFC - M. O'Brien
SAFC - Frank O'Brien and His Brother Fred "Beer" O'Brien

I know it was a south Player but the initial F. O'Brien could be either player. Originally I leant towards this being F.M "Beer" Obrien but he was in W.Aust until Rd 7 when he made his first appearance for South in 1901 v West Adelaide.

I ran out of time to read the papers yesterday to try and check SAFA meetings to see if they specified which O'Brien. (He played CHF as well)
Anyone have an idea as both O;Briens play for south most games from Rd7 on.

Here is a cut and paste of our side from exel (I can never keep the formatting) - ignore the DB code it is wrong!

MARLOW, Alfred Cleveland LHB DB 0
BARNES, Garsham Charles LBP 0
CLAXTON, Norman - RHB 0
DALY, Anthony Joseph FF DB 1
GOSSE, James Hay Ruck 1
HOSIE, Archibald - CHB 0
JOLLY, Norman William Lwing 0
KRUSS, Augustine Herman RR 1
MacKENZIE, Thomas David RBP 0
MATTHEWS, James George Facey LHF DB 1
MILLER, Walter Hillary RFP DB 1
SANDLAND, Philip Thomas RHF 0
QUINN, John - LFP 1
WOOLLARD, John - Rov 0
TREMBATH, William Thomas FB 0
ROBINSON, Stanley Carlton Rwing 0
O'BRIEN, Fredrick Michael CHF ? 0
MacKENZIE, Edward - Cent 0

Victoria

WORROLL, Frank - LFP 0
BEAUCHAMP, T RHB DB 0
BURNS, Peter Charles FB 0
DONAGHY, Michael George RHF DB 0
DOW, Charles RBP 0
DROHAN, Eddie Lwing DB 0
FELL, Matthew RR DB 1
SHARPE, Albert Edward LHB DB 0
ROLAND, Charlie Rwing 0
LEECH, John Frederick LBP DB 0
BARKER, Lou FF DB 0
RIGBY, Claude Henry Lwing DB 1
YOUNG, Henry - Ruck 0
RANKIN, Edwin Walter Rov DB 1
McCALLUM, Firth William LHF 0
MONAGHAN, John James CHB 1
MOODIE, George Birrell RFP DB 1
HALL, Alexander E Cent DB 0
5

[am Bays]

What no Glenelg players???

[bayman]

how can a former west indian captain be allowed to play for the vics ?, those vics were cheating even back in those days

[southern fan]

Do you have the right Miller as in William R or Walter.

[Dogwatcher]

how can a former west indian captain be allowed to play for the vics ?, those vics were cheating even back in those days

Can't have been him, the match didn't end in a tie.

[Mark_Beswick]

Thanks Dog Watcher - I inserted the wrong miller from the drop-down box - good pick-up!

[Dogwatcher]

MB - I can't claim credit, try Southern Fan mate

[Mark_Beswick]

I must be tired - Cheers Southern Fan

[Mark_Beswick]

Answer - Fred O'Brien SAFC AKA Beer O'Brien (mistakenly referred to as Vere in SA Papers)