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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Toughcall » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:08 pm

Disagree, if a kid is good enough he shopuld be paid accordingly. Why pay guys from town who are not as good and that has been a big issue at the Saints/Magpies.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby luvayarn » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:21 pm

Toughcall wrote:Disagree, if a kid is good enough he shopuld be paid accordingly. Why pay guys from town who are not as good and that has been a big issue at the Saints/Magpies.
Im talking about kids of Junior Colt and Senior Colt age, and if you think that ok mate its no wonder clubs struggle to contain kids.I think a kid should be playing footy because of the love for the sport not the pay cheque. All clubs recruit players not as good as what they have in their own backyard, and the other 9 clubs in this comp are no different than Goolwa so i would maybe suggest you dont throw stones in glass houses.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby words of wisdom » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:38 pm

Toughcall wrote:Disagree, if a kid is good enough he shopuld be paid accordingly. Why pay guys from town who are not as good and that has been a big issue at the Saints/Magpies.


Disagree on paying your locals. When i was at pongy we didnt pay anyone, that were classed as locals (played colts etc), apart from one player who got petrol money to drive from the city twice a week to train. If you pay one local where do you stop? There would be cases where you may have to pay locals, e.g if someone like Ben Warren or David Hams wanted/did return to local club then you could understand it.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby luvayarn » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:46 pm

words of wisdom wrote:
Toughcall wrote:Disagree, if a kid is good enough he shopuld be paid accordingly. Why pay guys from town who are not as good and that has been a big issue at the Saints/Magpies.


Disagree on paying your locals. When i was at pongy we didnt pay anyone, that were classed as locals (played colts etc), apart from one player who got petrol money to drive from the city twice a week to train. If you pay one local where do you stop? There would be cases where you may have to pay locals, e.g if someone like Ben Warren or David Hams wanted to return to local club then you could understand it.
I agree WOW but TC obviously thinks its ok,maybe that where he sees Goolwas problem as they try and keep away from paying locals other than fuel money.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby The Mexican » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:49 pm

luvayarn wrote:
words of wisdom wrote:
Toughcall wrote:Disagree, if a kid is good enough he shopuld be paid accordingly. Why pay guys from town who are not as good and that has been a big issue at the Saints/Magpies.


Disagree on paying your locals. When i was at pongy we didnt pay anyone, that were classed as locals (played colts etc), apart from one player who got petrol money to drive from the city twice a week to train. If you pay one local where do you stop? There would be cases where you may have to pay locals, e.g if someone like Ben Warren or David Hams wanted to return to local club then you could understand it.
I agree WOW but TC obviously thinks its ok,maybe that where he sees Goolwas problem as they try and keep away from paying locals other than fuel money.


I need some clarification on this "pay" scenario you are discussing... Surely each A grade side has a "base" payment (not a very big amount mind you) that all 21 players receive, do they not..?? If so, are you talking about over and above..??
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby luvayarn » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:03 pm

The Mexican wrote:
luvayarn wrote:
words of wisdom wrote:
Toughcall wrote:Disagree, if a kid is good enough he shopuld be paid accordingly. Why pay guys from town who are not as good and that has been a big issue at the Saints/Magpies.


Disagree on paying your locals. When i was at pongy we didnt pay anyone, that were classed as locals (played colts etc), apart from one player who got petrol money to drive from the city twice a week to train. If you pay one local where do you stop? There would be cases where you may have to pay locals, e.g if someone like Ben Warren or David Hams wanted to return to local club then you could understand it.
I agree WOW but TC obviously thinks its ok,maybe that where he sees Goolwas problem as they try and keep away from paying locals other than fuel money.


I need some clarification on this "pay" scenario you are discussing... Surely each A grade side has a "base" payment (not a very big amount mind you) that all 21 players receive, do they not..?? If so, are you talking about over and above..??
I can tell you Mex that Goolwa do not have a base payment of any kind,and i doubt that even if they did it would keep the likes of Jurek ,Mckinlay,etc,etc,etc at the club .
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby The Mexican » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:29 pm

Gee that surprises me... Any other clubs the same..?? The amount i'm talking about as a base is certainly not what eventually determines whether a player will stay or not, just gives them a few bucks in the hand every saturday night and i would say that 80% would be returned over the bar that night anyway... I've been at MV for 20 years and we've always had a "base" payment...
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby luvayarn » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:34 pm

The Mexican wrote:Gee that surprises me... Any other clubs the same..?? The amount i'm talking about as a base is certainly not what eventually determines whether a player will stay or not, just gives them a few bucks in the hand every saturday night and i would say that 80% would be returned over the bar that night anyway... I've been at MV for 20 years and we've always had a "base" payment...
with all respect Mex that is MV not Goolwa , i would imagine over that 20 years your sponsorship and player incentives would also be alot more than Goolwas.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby limb » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:35 pm

How much is the base payment at MV Mex?
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Toughcall » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:39 pm

No, l don't think it is OK to pay junior colts or senior colts. You are confused. All I am saying as WOW has that if a local is good enough he shoould get something. That is all and if you disagree then you will cause problems in a footy club when the recruits do not measure up.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby words of wisdom » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:43 pm

The Mexican wrote:Gee that surprises me... Any other clubs the same..?? The amount i'm talking about as a base is certainly not what eventually determines whether a player will stay or not, just gives them a few bucks in the hand every saturday night and i would say that 80% would be returned over the bar that night anyway... I've been at MV for 20 years and we've always had a "base" payment...


No base payments at Myponga but if you win you get a $30 drinks/meal voucher to spend at the club.

I hear what your saying TC, Ferg is a good young player but what has he done in footy to deserve cash?
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby teamwork » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:54 pm

words of wisdom wrote:
The Mexican wrote:Gee that surprises me... Any other clubs the same..?? The amount i'm talking about as a base is certainly not what eventually determines whether a player will stay or not, just gives them a few bucks in the hand every saturday night and i would say that 80% would be returned over the bar that night anyway... I've been at MV for 20 years and we've always had a "base" payment...


No base payments at Myponga but if you win you get a $30 drinks/meal voucher to spend at the club.

I hear what your saying TC, Ferg is a good young player but what has he done in footy to deserve cash?


Bays would have offered him money based on the fact he is a great young player with alot of ability and is 0 points.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Toughcall » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:02 pm

Not a lot yet WOW, but with the points system in place clubs are silly if they do not try and attract 0 points players to their club and hopefully for the Bays he will be a 10 year player for them. It is the system that is in and you have to work it as best you can.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby words of wisdom » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:34 pm

Toughcall wrote:Not a lot yet WOW, but with the points system in place clubs are silly if they do not try and attract 0 points players to their club and hopefully for the Bays he will be a 10 year player for them. It is the system that is in and you have to work it as best you can.


I understand that he will be a very good player but my point is where do you stop paying your locals? If you had to pay all your good 0 point players to come back or stay, could you afford to get blokes like Yeomans & Ewer as recruits to come to your club?
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby luvayarn » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:51 pm

Toughcall wrote:No, l don't think it is OK to pay junior colts or senior colts. You are confused. All I am saying as WOW has that if a local is good enough he shoould get something. That is all and if you disagree then you will cause problems in a footy club when the recruits do not measure up.
Im not confused, in your post at the top of the page you said kids, in my book kids are lads of a colts age.The problem i see with paying locals is you pay 1 you pay all,and to finish Ferg never ever asked the club for money he just up and left when offered money from EBay instead of coming to the club and having a chat about it.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby The Mexican » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:59 pm

limb wrote:How much is the base payment at MV Mex?


I'd prefer not to mention that on here, but let me assure you that it is not very much at all... Enough to get your night started is about it...
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby The Mexican » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:02 pm

So with no base payments at most it seems (altho Mypo appear to have someting in place that i am talking about) what would be the average number of "paid" players form club to club do you think..??
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby words of wisdom » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:24 pm

The Mexican wrote:So with no base payments at most it seems (altho Mypo appear to have someting in place that i am talking about) what would be the average number of "paid" players form club to club do you think..??


Not all players take the win voucher at pongy, like Tilt, Baz etc. Mainly the uni kids take it.

I would call a paid player someone who gets $100+ a game. So im guessing Gsfl clubs would have between 5 & 10 players, a couple may have more.

By the way my mail about Chris Patterson to Pongy was just to stir the Willunga boys up! Hes headed back to Qld. He did enjoy the text messages though! Sorry BJ :lol:
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Grape Ape » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:33 pm

The Mexican wrote:
limb wrote:How much is the base payment at MV Mex?


I'd prefer not to mention that on here, but let me assure you that it is not very much at all... Enough to get your night started is about it...


I have been led to believe that MV's 'base' is in the vicinity of $50 per game.

I also heard a rumour that Langhorne Creek was paying B graders $20 per game. Is that true?
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Toughcall » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:33 pm

Be a sad day when GSFL clubs sink to the level of paying colts!
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