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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby Sir Red of Norwood » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:50 am

IMHO one of the reasons that the SANFL still has relevance to the SA public, in fact is undergoing a mini boom at the moment is that it is 'traditional footy', the comp you went to as a kid with your dad and your granddad. Same hard game, same feel that is the opposite of the manufactured cr@p of the AFL. If South change to the Geelong style jumper, they will break with this feeling. By all means, introduce the white panther jumper as a change when playing Norwood, Port and Glenelg, I think the white jumper (3rd design) is not too bad, but as a traditionalist I think they should continue with the SA Monogrammed home jumper.

As others have said before, I think the SAFC board has more to worry about than rebadging/rebranding the club....shuffling deck chair etc etc. They should be focusing on becoming the Centrals of the southern suburbs.

Just my $0.02 as a Norwood member and a traditionalist.
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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:30 am

South have had the Geelong style guernsey before, so it's part of their tradition.

I'll leave it up to South to make that decision, it has nothing to do with me. I will say that as much as I liked the SA monogramed jumper, it has become ordinary to look at over the years with all the sponsors names all over it.

Sometimes a change of jumper can breathe more interest in a club, and that's possibly what South are looking to do. Let's face it, South have stagnated possibly more than anyone else over the years and are in dire need of change.
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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby FlyingHigh » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:17 am

I'd like to see the third one as a clash guernsey but with the old Panther logo in the middle. Leave the traditional guernsey as is, although like Pseudo's idea of some white trimming.

Believe South's 64 guernsey was as Saintal referred to - S and A next to each other, not interlinking

Though my club has had 6 different guernseys in 15 years :oops: . Probably has finally got it right though.
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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby TigerBoss » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:33 am

Wedgie wrote:In all seriousness even though Im a Geelong supporter I think South should work on looking a bit more unique and I think they should go with the 1st and 3rd guernseys, the predominately navy blue at home and the predominately white one away from home.
Full marks for the designs.


Boo me, but I agree with Wedgie's view. 1st and 3rd options are better. Boo any suggestion the Panthers guernsey should be anything like the Geelong strip.

Overall...boo that South are wanting to change their strip at all. I think the Panthers guernsey now is a ripper.
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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby Ingall » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:38 am

FWIW, I've always though South's navy blue with the white mongram was the best jumper going around.
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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby MightyEagles » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:19 am

I like the 3rd one.
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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby darley16 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:49 am

Pathetic, uneccessary, amatuer league design, disrepectful to a club of 132 years history. The jumper is brand recognition and must reflect the tradition of a club of such an age. Our current jumper has been a survivor for decades reflected in the photo's of the 1938 & 1964 premiership teams, it is historic and traditional, a simple unclutered Australian Rules gurnsey that is regarded by many outside the club as an excellent design.

The SANFL is built on and survives on tradition, recognition of its clubs and their history. Tell a Port Magpie supporter about changing their jumper and see the response. WAFL in the early 1990's changed all the clubs designs in order to combat the AFL, and in doing so lost its heritage and eventual support.

SAFC change our jumper at its peril, we have far more to lose than any minor short-term gain :twisted:
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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby TigerBoss » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:13 am

darley16 wrote:Pathetic, uneccessary, amatuer league design, disrepectful to a club of 132 years history. The jumper is brand recognition and must reflect the tradition of a club of such an age. Our current jumper has been a survivor for decades reflected in the photo's of the 1938 & 1964 premiership teams, it is historic and traditional, a simple unclutered Australian Rules gurnsey that is regarded by many outside the club as an excellent design.

The SANFL is built on and survives on tradition, recognition of its clubs and their history. Tell a Port Magpie supporter about changing their jumper and see the response. WAFL in the early 1990's changed all the clubs designs in order to combat the AFL, and in doing so lost its heritage and eventual support.

SAFC change our jumper at its peril, we have far more to lose than any minor short-term gain :twisted:


Well said Darl...

I'd be livid if the Bays decided to remove the gold strip from the front of its guernsey and replace it with a Tiger's head (ala Richmond's pre-season and clash guernseys).
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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby HeartBeatsTrue » Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:35 am

When was the last time a team (before WWTFC) last changed a home guernsey? Was it Centrals?

All 8 clubs (WWTFC excepted) need to keep their traditional guernseys.
I'm all for away/clash jumpers, which IMO should just be the reverse of the home guernsey for 2 colour teams. Centrals away one is perfect.
Glenelg: All gold with black sash
Central: What they have
North: Dont need one
Norwood: All red with blue trim
Port: Dont need one
Sturt: Dont need one
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West: Red with black sash
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Another idea for a South clash is to keep their current guernsey, and add white panelling on the sides.
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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby Punk Rooster » Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:43 am

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:When was the last time a team (before WWTFC) last changed a home guernsey? Was it Centrals?

All 8 clubs (WWTFC excepted) need to keep their traditional guernseys.
I'm all for away/clash jumpers, which IMO should just be the reverse of the home guernsey for 2 colour teams. Centrals away one is perfect.
Glenelg: All gold with black sash
Central: What they have
North: Dont need one
Norwood: All red with blue trim
Port: Dont need one
Sturt: Dont need one
South: White with blue SA
West: Red with black sash
WWT: What they have now is the best they've had

Another idea for a South clash is to keep their current guernsey, and add white panelling on the sides.

I brought this up many moons ago, & was howled down...
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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby Pseudo » Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:50 am

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:All 8 clubs (WWTFC excepted) need to keep their traditional guernseys.
I'm all for away/clash jumpers, which IMO should just be the reverse of the home guernsey for 2 colour teams. Centrals away one is perfect.
Glenelg: All gold with black sash


I'm not generally in favour of clash/alternative jumpers; I don't reckon anything clashes significantly with the Bays guernsey, and I don't especially care what the other clubs do.

Nevertheless if Glenelg ever did adopt a gold alternative jumper (God forbid - take note GFC), it would be the black V 1934 premiership jumper before gold with black sash.

In reality, it would likely be some poxy trendy tracksuit-top design covered in arcane blobs and unsaturated colours before it would be either black-V or black-sash. Which is another good reason to stick with the single current guernsey.
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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby holden78 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:15 pm

I totally agree with your arguement ; the Eagles board ( CD included ! ) changed our logo at the start of this year with no consideration to its members , to an obvious knock off of the old West Coast Eagles logo .......Why ? Who knows ? West Coast nowdays has a logo that looks like our previous old one ! My point is that Boards are so notorious for getting these things wrong , against the fans & members wishes , history tells us this through out the competition . A white away strip ala Centrals is all South needs to tinker with . Also on the subject of sponsors names , the League should rule on a limit on the size ; Glenelgs this year was obnoxious and ruined its aesthetics .
Sojourner wrote:Absolutley cannot stand the idea of the club changing the guernsey unless its to make the slight alteration back to make it the very same as it was in the 1970's without the S looping around the A.

Naturally I will be voting no to the idea! :evil:

If South wish to have an alternative guernsey then go use our Heritage Guernsey is my suggestion. In the 30+ years that I have supported the club we have achived little in the way of a positive result, the one thing though that South does have that no other club has is that we as a club are the oldest club in the SANFL. South are the last of the clubs that founded the SAFA and we as a club should be entitled to emphasise that history as a part of who we are. To openly reject the history of the club in order to suggest that to do so will release the club from its losing streak is ridiculous and insulting at the least.

Its great that Geelong are a successfull AFL club, yet we are our own club with our own history and the thought of being "Patched Over" by a another club makes me feel sick.

Hopefully the members stick together and not only vote out the idea but at the same time vote out the current board of the club who appear to me to be a lot more of a problem than the currrent guernsey of the club......
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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby Stevie_K » Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:30 pm

Pseudo wrote:Nevertheless if Glenelg ever did adopt a gold alternative jumper (God forbid - take note GFC), it would be the black V 1934 premiership jumper before gold with black sash.


Damn right, first thing i thought of if it had to happen.

But, being a traditionalist, hopefully it doesn't come to that.
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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby Pseudo » Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:40 pm

holden78 wrote:.... Also on the subject of sponsors names , the League should rule on a limit on the size ; Glenelgs this year was obnoxious and ruined its aesthetics
Well, beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that, but I reckon the current positioning of sponsorship on the guernsey is the best since the Associated Midland design of the early '80s. Previous sponsorship patches have stood out like sore thumbs; the current Gliderol logo blends in with the jumper a lot better. From a distance it is hardly noticeable.
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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby HeartBeatsTrue » Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:57 pm

Pseudo wrote:From a distance it is hardly noticeable.

Dont tell Gliderol that!!
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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby Barto » Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:57 pm

zipzap wrote:I like the second one only. The other's are dire.

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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby eaglehaslanded » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:22 pm

All look good but I personaly prefer no.2
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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby Barto » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:24 pm

eaglehaslanded wrote:All look good but I personaly prefer no.2


They're all 'number two' to be honest.
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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby TigerBoss » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:28 pm

Barto wrote:
eaglehaslanded wrote:All look good but I personaly prefer no.2


They're all 'number two' to be honest.


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Re: South's Proposed New Guernseys

Postby evaneagle » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:37 pm

Well done South, I think they all look great.

I think many of you are missing the point of the proposed change. South Adelaide need to appeal to the younger generation and the current guernsey wouldn't really be doing that. I notice that when they have their u13 &u14's during the finals they have worn a guernsey which has a pnther and looks much more modern. It looks far more appealing to the younger kids I'm sure. These kids hold the future for SA both on and off the field.

The most important thing is that the colours haven't changed, they will still be the navy blue and white.

Clash guernseys are a must these days as the game has got so quick. I have seen many times in recent years when a player has clearly handballed to an opposition, purely because of the clashes.
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