Sturt vs Norwood Review thread

[Pseudo]

I think Glenelg are going to be pretty nervous coming into the Sturt game. Like Norwood, they play a game that suits Sturt

Yeah. Glenelg's game suits Sturt so well that the Bays haven't come close to knocking off Sturt even once in the last 5 starts between these teams

[zipzap]

I think Glenelg are going to be pretty nervous coming into the Sturt game. Like Norwood, they play a game that suits Sturt

Yeah. Glenelg's game suits Sturt so well that the Bays haven't come close to knocking off Sturt even once in the last 5 starts between these teams

Recent history tells us the Bays are a team to respect - just not today, they were appalling. While I am sure they will come out fighting next week if they give Sturt as much latitude as they did the Dogs in the third quarter then it could get ugly.

Deeply disappointed it won't be a Bays / Blues GF

[topsywaldron]

The game plan .. a shammozzle. I have no idea what we were trying to achieve out there today .. none whatsoever.

Finally seen the light AH?

[Adelaide Hawk]

The game plan .. a shammozzle. I have no idea what we were trying to achieve out there today .. none whatsoever.

Finally seen the light AH?

No, I just believe in supporting your team and your coach until the end of the season, and then making a valuation on performance.

[HeartBeatsTrue]

The game plan .. a shammozzle. I have no idea what we were trying to achieve out there today .. none whatsoever.

Finally seen the light AH?

No, I just believe in supporting your team and your coach until the end of the season, and then making a valuation on performance.

But your making your evaluations on 1 game. Not the entire season where Norwood finished 4th compared to 7th or thereabouts in the previous 6 years.
We were always up against it. Alwan, Coombes, Nitschke and Tyrell in from last week who 3 of them have played almost entire season in the reserves, plus some players not 100% fit.
Probably the youngest side in the top 5.
Sturt too much class and experience.

[Adelaide Hawk]

The game plan .. a shammozzle. I have no idea what we were trying to achieve out there today .. none whatsoever.

Finally seen the light AH?

No, I just believe in supporting your team and your coach until the end of the season, and then making a valuation on performance.

But your making your evaluations on 1 game. Not the entire season where Norwood finished 4th compared to 7th or thereabouts in the previous 6 years.
We were always up against it. Alwan, Coombes, Nitschke and Tyrell in from last week who 3 of them have played almost entire season in the reserves, plus some players not 100% fit.
Probably the youngest side in the top 5.
Sturt too much class and experience.

That is where you are wrong. I am making evaluations based on three seasons of coaching, culminating in how the side went about playing the 1st Semi Final. "Up against it" personael wise is one thing, but having a totally inadequate game plan is another.

We have no grunt in our side. We come up against Sturt, Glenelg & Central and they shove us around like rag dolls. I'd love to have Scott Burns coaching the Redlegs in 2009, but he'll probably be an assistant coach of an AFL club somewhere.

I have no axe to grind with Trevor Hill. He's a nice guy who obviously knows his footy, but either one of two things are happening. Either he is preaching a game style that does not work, or the message isn't getting through.

[HeartBeatsTrue]

But your making your evaluations on 1 game. Not the entire season where Norwood finished 4th compared to 7th or thereabouts in the previous 6 years.
We were always up against it. Alwan, Coombes, Nitschke and Tyrell in from last week who 3 of them have played almost entire season in the reserves, plus some players not 100% fit.
Probably the youngest side in the top 5.
Sturt too much class and experience.

That is where you are wrong. I am making evaluations based on three seasons of coaching, culminating in how the side went about playing the 1st Semi Final. "Up against it" personael wise is one thing, but having a totally inadequate game plan is another.

We have no grunt in our side. We come up against Sturt, Glenelg & Central and they shove us around like rag dolls. I'd love to have Scott Burns coaching the Redlegs in 2009, but he'll probably be an assistant coach of an AFL club somewhere.

I have no axe to grind with Trevor Hill. He's a nice guy who obviously knows his footy, but either one of two things are happening. Either he is preaching a game style that does not work, or the message isn't getting through.

Fair enough. Thought the game plan vs Port was good, but had the speed and skill to back it up against slower opposition. This week I thought the players werent sharp enough with their skills by hand, foot and dropped marks. Then the 3rd qtr we were beaten convincingly in the middle (due to Doyle going down) and our undermanned defence couldnt handle it. Hence my opinion on personnel being the main problem.

No grunt in our side maybe, but who from Glenelg and Sturt have such grunt?

[SDK]

We lost today because.....

1. The 4 outs from last week was a bad start......make that 5 with Aish
before the game.
2. The replacements were not up to the occasion.
3. We were right with Sturt before Doyle was injured and they
dominated the rucks from that point and kicked 3 quick goals before
half time and controlled the rucks...and the game after that.
4. Our INSISTENCE on going wide into the forward lines....and slowly
into the forward lines cost us. When we moved the ball
quickly and directly to the forwards we kicked goals. Sturt moved the
ball on at all costs....we were stop start indecisive on too many occasions.
5. Our skills again let us down time and time again. No one could
question our commitment but our hand and foot skills were poor.
6. Sturt has a good coach...maybe the best....and this showed today. Their game plan is sound and they move the ball with skill and once their confidence grows it is goodnight nurse !

We are better than we showed yesterday and we have improved this year even though our game plan is wrong and does not work !
Can the current coach fix this ? After 3 years of the same thing I dont think so.

[Rucciangelo]

We lost today because..... our game plan is wrong and does not work !

I reckon we were pretty lucky it wasn't pouring with rain and the field all boggy!

[bluegirl2002]

and playing at night Oops-just remembered round 1 2008

[Adelaide Hawk]

No grunt in our side maybe, but who from Glenelg and Sturt have such grunt?

I use the term "grunt" in a collective mode. I'm talking about the philosophy of a team, rather than the attitude of an individual. I didn't see the game at the Bay, but the first two times Glenelg belted us, they snarled at us, pushed us around, showed us who was boss. They intimidated us not only with physicality, but also with long direct football.

Sturt also did this in round 1 this year and in the semi final. One of the things Rick Macgowan has brought to Sturt is the Central way of putting in the niggle, roughing players up when they're on the ground, holding onto the ball to slow opposition run, inching over the mark, etc, etc. Norwood don't do any of this, we are too nice, and a reflection of Trevor Hill's personality.

Think back to the 1997 premiership team. What a team that was ... not one player in that team took a backward step, a genuinely hard as nails team. What I wouldn't give for a Paul McCormack type across the half back line. On top of that we were direct, with a purpose in everything we did.

Unless we are prepared to change our current philosophy on style of play, we are headed for more years of being a team who looks the goods one week, and fails miserably the next.

[JK]

No grunt in our side maybe, but who from Glenelg and Sturt have such grunt?

I use the term "grunt" in a collective mode. I'm talking about the philosophy of a team, rather than the attitude of an individual. I didn't see the game at the Bay, but the first two times Glenelg belted us, they snarled at us, pushed us around, showed us who was boss. They intimidated us not only with physicality, but also with long direct football.

Sturt also did this in round 1 this year and in the semi final. One of the things Rick Macgowan has brought to Sturt is the Central way of putting in the niggle, roughing players up when they're on the ground, holding onto the ball to slow opposition run, inching over the mark, etc, etc. Norwood don't do any of this, we are too nice, and a reflection of Trevor Hill's personality.

Think back to the 1997 premiership team. What a team that was ... not one player in that team took a backward step, a genuinely hard as nails team. What I wouldn't give for a Paul McCormack type across the half back line. On top of that we were direct, with a purpose in everything we did.

Unless we are prepared to change our current philosophy on style of play, we are headed for more years of being a team who looks the goods one week, and fails miserably the next.

[Rucciangelo]

Unless we are prepared to change our current philosophy on style of play, we are headed for more years of being a team who looks the goods one week, and fails miserably the next.

................G...W...L..D..P...%
Norwood 21 10 10 1 19 48

Yep...sums it up pretty well!

[HeartBeatsTrue]

No grunt in our side maybe, but who from Glenelg and Sturt have such grunt?

I use the term "grunt" in a collective mode. I'm talking about the philosophy of a team, rather than the attitude of an individual. I didn't see the game at the Bay, but the first two times Glenelg belted us, they snarled at us, pushed us around, showed us who was boss. They intimidated us not only with physicality, but also with long direct football.

Sturt also did this in round 1 this year and in the semi final. One of the things Rick Macgowan has brought to Sturt is the Central way of putting in the niggle, roughing players up when they're on the ground, holding onto the ball to slow opposition run, inching over the mark, etc, etc. Norwood don't do any of this, we are too nice, and a reflection of Trevor Hill's personality.

Think back to the 1997 premiership team. What a team that was ... not one player in that team took a backward step, a genuinely hard as nails team. What I wouldn't give for a Paul McCormack type across the half back line. On top of that we were direct, with a purpose in everything we did.

Unless we are prepared to change our current philosophy on style of play, we are headed for more years of being a team who looks the goods one week, and fails miserably the next.

Again fair enuff. Honour your opinions.