Adelaide Turf Cricket

[evaneagle]

I know that the fixture list is pretty well finalised. Just a few grounds to be worked out. Would expect it out very shortly.

[rod_rooster]

I know that the fixture list is pretty well finalised. Just a few grounds to be worked out. Would expect it out very shortly.

That would be a massive improvement and a great start to his role for Wayne Phillips.

[bulldogs]

Any thoughts out there about the C1 to C3 grades not having bonus points in there 2nd innings and able to pull up stumps at tea if both capts agree.

I strongly disagree with this rule.

Clubs are striving to have a good night after games and do awards etc. These players may stay have a couple and be gone by 4 not to be seen for the rest awards and teas. We as a club charge $10 a week how do we charge players when they may only play 1/2 day on the 2nd week. Many more points i could bring up.

ANYONE got any THOUGHTS

[rod_rooster]

Any thoughts out there about the C1 to C3 grades not having bonus points in there 2nd innings and able to pull up stumps at tea if both capts agree.

I strongly disagree with this rule.

Clubs are striving to have a good night after games and do awards etc. These players may stay have a couple and be gone by 4 not to be seen for the rest awards and teas. We as a club charge $10 a week how do we charge players when they may only play 1/2 day on the 2nd week. Many more points i could bring up.

ANYONE got any THOUGHTS

Seems a bit strange to me. This is the first i've heard of it. Have there been any reasons given for this decision?

[Pumba]

how do the LO teams compare with the 2 day teams? obviously different competitions but are there alot of gun players playing LO cricket because the prefer to just play one dayers hence improving the standard?

[rod_rooster]

how do the LO teams compare with the 2 day teams? obviously different competitions but are there alot of gun players playing LO cricket because the prefer to just play one dayers hence improving the standard?

The LO comps do have a lot of guys just wanting to play one day cricket. The LOA comp is of pretty high standard and to a lesser extent so is the LOB's.

[Pumba]

how do the LO teams compare with the 2 day teams? obviously different competitions but are there alot of gun players playing LO cricket because the prefer to just play one dayers hence improving the standard?

The LO comps do have a lot of guys just wanting to play one day cricket. The LOA comp is of pretty high standard and to a lesser extent so is the LOB's.

i have heard that the LOAs is very strong with a big step down to Bs where teams lack depth in players. is LOA considered as high standard as A2? is there a seperate LO turf cricket blog that this is discussed on?

[rod_rooster]

how do the LO teams compare with the 2 day teams? obviously different competitions but are there alot of gun players playing LO cricket because the prefer to just play one dayers hence improving the standard?

The LO comps do have a lot of guys just wanting to play one day cricket. The LOA comp is of pretty high standard and to a lesser extent so is the LOB's.

i have heard that the LOAs is very strong with a big step down to Bs where teams lack depth in players. is LOA considered as high standard as A2? is there a seperate LO turf cricket blog that this is discussed on?

It is a step down from LOA's to LOB's. The lower sides in the LOB's can be quite weak whereas there aren't really weak sides in LOA. I would suggest that the top sides in LOA would be competitive in A2.

[heater31]

how do the LO teams compare with the 2 day teams? obviously different competitions but are there alot of gun players playing LO cricket because the prefer to just play one dayers hence improving the standard?

The LO comps do have a lot of guys just wanting to play one day cricket. The LOA comp is of pretty high standard and to a lesser extent so is the LOB's.

My Grade club put a side in the LO's last season playing with mainly with kids too old for 16s plus a few older blokes who for one reason or another was on available for 1 week of a 2 week game in the SACA comp. think we were put in the Bs comp and by looking at the results of the side the top teams were good then towards the middle it fell away with sides lacking depth.

I played one game and took 6 for stuff all on a very dodgy track just rolling the arm over never played again for the rest of the year.


back to the issue of the 2 day stuff. IMHO it defeats the purpose of playing 2 day cricket. If you want to pull up stumps after the result is decided then it possibly better off playing LO's every week.

[Pumba]

how do the LO teams compare with the 2 day teams? obviously different competitions but are there alot of gun players playing LO cricket because the prefer to just play one dayers hence improving the standard?

The LO comps do have a lot of guys just wanting to play one day cricket. The LOA comp is of pretty high standard and to a lesser extent so is the LOB's.

My Grade club put a side in the LO's last season playing with mainly with kids too old for 16s plus a few older blokes who for one reason or another was on available for 1 week of a 2 week game in the SACA comp. think we were put in the Bs comp and by looking at the results of the side the top teams were good then towards the middle it fell away with sides lacking depth.

I played one game and took 6 for stuff all on a very dodgy track just rolling the arm over never played again for the rest of the year.


back to the issue of the 2 day stuff. IMHO it defeats the purpose of playing 2 day cricket. If you want to pull up stumps after the result is decided then it possibly better off playing LO's every week.

do many grade clubs have teams specifically entered in either the two day or one day comps for this purpose?

[heater31]

We used to put the 16's in a sunday u/17 but they kicked up a stink about it for some reason that I am not sure of. From the senior section we used to send them sometimes to a local turf club on a dual rego. When I first started out I went to one of these situations. Our turf side was very inconsistent, some weeks they had enough for a team and others not. Sometimes they didn't have a ground to play on etc

As far as I'm aware that grade clubs only enter into the LO's to allow flexibility with selection. eg players only available for 1 week of a 2 week game. The turf 2 dayers are majority out of sync with the grade program in the past. other clubs to do this that I know of apart from us (Adelaide) are Kensington and Adelaide Uni (then again they could be a separate club to the SACA's) that played last year. Southern's had one for a few seasons a while ago but gave it away due to the lack of turf wickets down South. Sturt appear on the Turf website so they must have had one at one stage too.

[bulldogs]

one reason i was told is regarding older players not wanting to field for nothing.teams will not try for outrights as if they fail to get the 10 wickets by 1, 2 or whatever they get no points at all for the 2nd innings. I have a feeling some people may want to turn the comp into onedayers from premier grade down in the future. Why dont the clubs get a survey or something to fill out re changes. clubs are the association.

Any thoughts from any other turf clubs or players

[beeroclock]

Disgraceful if that goes ahead,on a lighter side at least they will be able to go watch super stars such as yourself flay the willow in the 1s when they finish early boog.

[rainbow warrior]

one reason i was told is regarding older players not wanting to field for nothing.teams will not try for outrights as if they fail to get the 10 wickets by 1, 2 or whatever they get no points at all for the 2nd innings. I have a feeling some people may want to turn the comp into onedayers from premier grade down in the future. Why dont the clubs get a survey or something to fill out re changes. clubs are the association.

Any thoughts from any other turf clubs or players

Would be very disappointing if this occurred. Waht is the point. Would ruin the standard of cricket if it was only one dayers. Where is the fun in that. Often in one day games blokes get a bowl that shouldnt be bowling, jsut makes a mockery of the standard. The good bowlers cant bowl more than 10 overs, what is the point of that. One day cricket is a joke, if they ever change that at premier grade I would go play in another comp. Would be pathetic.

[leftrightout]

one reason i was told is regarding older players not wanting to field for nothing.teams will not try for outrights as if they fail to get the 10 wickets by 1, 2 or whatever they get no points at all for the 2nd innings. I have a feeling some people may want to turn the comp into onedayers from premier grade down in the future. Why dont the clubs get a survey or something to fill out re changes. clubs are the association.

Any thoughts from any other turf clubs or players

I don't think they are trying to turn it into 1 dayers. How often is a game over at tea on the second week and everyone bitch and moans about playing the last couple of sessions? The ATCA has been told by clubs they are finding it hard to find fill in players. I think they are trying to make it more appealling to the lower grades in getting fill in players. Players leaving early is common in D's and then when the opposition smash you all over the park in the 2nd innings and your fill ins players say stuff staying when others nick off early, will they roll up again to help a mate out? Hard wickets comps call it off if no outright result is possible and work points on a quosion (spelling??). Personally I think it may work in C grade but in A B grade it should definately stay as is.

[wycbloods]

one reason i was told is regarding older players not wanting to field for nothing.teams will not try for outrights as if they fail to get the 10 wickets by 1, 2 or whatever they get no points at all for the 2nd innings. I have a feeling some people may want to turn the comp into onedayers from premier grade down in the future. Why dont the clubs get a survey or something to fill out re changes. clubs are the association.

Any thoughts from any other turf clubs or players

I don't think they are trying to turn it into 1 dayers. How often is a game over at tea on the second week and everyone bitch and moans about playing the last couple of sessions? The ATCA has been told by clubs they are finding it hard to find fill in players. I think they are trying to make it more appealling to the lower grades in getting fill in players. Players leaving early is common in D's and then when the opposition smash you all over the park in the 2nd innings and your fill ins players say stuff staying when others nick off early, will they roll up again to help a mate out? Hard wickets comps call it off if no outright result is possible and work points on a quosion (spelling??). Personally I think it may work in C grade but in A B grade it should definately stay as is.

Quotient is what we use in the A&SCA LRO.

[matt]

Re LOA cricket.
It has kept my enthusiasm for the game alive.
I'd had enough of the demands of grade cricket (job, kids meant no time for training) and was pretty much going to give it away. Had a season and a half off and then bumped into a mate who was playing LOAs and wanted me to fill in. That was four and a half seasons ago.
I enjoy the 40 over format and get to play with mates largely around the same age (mid to late 30s). There are a few good players going around but I wouldn;t call the standard anything special. I can't compare it to the two-day sides in ATCA but I like to think we could give our D-Grade side a run for thier money although we'd probably be all out for 200 odd after 40 overs!
Uni is the only grade club to have an LOA side in 08/09. In my time Sturt, Southerns and Kensis have all had LOA sides but have not been overly competitive.

[beeroclock]

Lo grades are for 1 inning games so leave it,simple,blokes that have to leave early give skippers insentive to go for outrights,less wickets to take,toughen up A.T.C.A and clubs involved or we will end up being a pethetic 1 day comp down the track.

[Pumba]

Lo grades are for 1 inning games so leave it,simple,blokes that have to leave early give skippers insentive to go for outrights,less wickets to take,toughen up A.T.C.A and clubs involved or we will end up being a pethetic 1 day comp down the track.

what do you consider to be so pathetic about the one day (LO) comp? is it because it is a weak competition or do u dislike the short version?

[matt]

Beeroclock - are you having a dig at the LO comp?
I thought it was more along the lines of leaving the 2 day comps as is.