Round 22 General Discussion Review + Preview

[Thiele]

FREMANTLE v COLLINGWOOD
Fremantle
B: Scott Thornton, Michael Johnson, David Mundy
HB: Marcus Drum, Luke McPharlin, Roger Hayden
C: Paul Duffield, Ryan Crowley, Des Headland
HF: Byron Schammer, Kepler Bradley, Jeff Farmer
F: Adam Campbell, Ryan Murphy, Mark Johnson
Foll: Aaron Sandilands, Josh Carr, Andrew Browne
I/C: Garrick Ibottson, Chris Mayne, Rhys Palmer, Clayton Hinkley
EMG: Steven Dodd, Brett Peake, Ryley Dunn

In: Hinkley, Browne
Out: Steven Dodd, Brett Peake

Collingwood
B: Simon Prestigiacomo, Nathan Brown, Tyson Goldsack
HB: Martin Clarke, Nick Maxwell, Heritier O’Brien
C: Tarkyn Lockyer, Rhyce Shaw, Shannon Cox
HF: Scott Pendlebury, Travis Cloke, Leon Davis
F: Chris Dawes, Paul Medhurst, John Anthony
Foll: Josh Fraser, Dane Swan, Shane O’Bree
I/C: John McCarthy, Danny Stanley, Chris Bryan, Ryan Cook
EMG: Jaxson Barham, Brent Macaffer, Chris Egan

In: Brown, Prestigiacomo, R. Shaw, Stanley
Out: Scott Burns (calf), Alan Toovey (foot), Shane Wakelin (groin), Sharrod Wellingham (groin)


NORTH MELBOURNE v PORT ADELAIDE
North Melbourne
B: Josh Gibson, Drew Petrie, Michael Firrito
HB: Daniel Pratt, Lachlan Hansen, Gavin Urquhart
C: Leigh Harding, Adam Simpson, Daniel Wells
HF: Brent Harvey, Corey Jones, Shannon Grant
F: Aaron Edwards, David Hale, Matt Campbell
Foll: Hamish McIntosh, Daniel Harris, Brady Rawlings
I/C: Sam Power, Lindsay Thomas, Shannon Watt, Scott McMahon
EMG: Ed Lower, Jess Sinclair, Todd Goldstein

In: Campbell, Edwards
Out: Jess Sinclair, Scott Thompson

Port Adelaide
B: Toby Thurstans, Alipate Carlile, Nick Lower
HB: Jacob Surjan, Damon White, Peter Burgoyne
C: Domenic Cassisi, Kane Cornes, Travis Boak
HF: Tom Logan, Matthew Westhoff, Danyle Pearce
F: Justin Westhoff, Daniel Motlop, Brett Ebert
Foll: Dean Brogan, Shaun Burgoyne, David Rodan
I/C: Brendon Lade, Marlon Motlop, Paul Stewart, Robert Gray
EMG: Greg Bentley, Mitch Farmer, Nathan Lonie

In: Gray
Out: Troy Chaplin (knee)


GEELONG v WEST COAST
Geelong
B: Tom Harley, Matthew Scarlett, Josh Hunt
HB: Corey Enright, Andrew Mackie, Darren Milburn
C: Cameron Ling, Jimmy Bartel, Joel Corey
HF: Ryan Gamble, Cameron Mooney, Steve Johnson
F: Paul Chapman, Tom Lonergan, Travis Varcoe
Foll: Brad Ottens, Gary Ablett, Joel Selwood
I/C: Mark Blake, Brent Prismall, Mathew Stokes, Harry Taylor
EMG: Shannon Byrnes, Tom Hawkins, David Wojcinski

In: Stokes, Gamble
Out: Max Rooke (susp), Shannon Byrnes


West Coast Eagles
B: Mark Nicoski, Darren Glass, Eric Mackenzie
HB: Adam Selwood, Beau Wilkes, Andrew Embley
C: Sam Butler, Matt Priddis, Jamie McNamara
HF: Steven Armstrong, Ashley Hansen, Ryan Davis
F: Mark LeCras, Quinten Lynch, Ben McKinley
Foll: Dean Cox, Chad Fletcher, Tyson Stenglein
I/C: Will Schofield, Mark Seaby, Scott Selwood, Matt Spangher
EMG: Tim Houlihan, Tony Notte, James Thomson

In: LeCras, Schofield
Out: Tony Notte, Michael Braun (retired)



ADELAIDE v WESTERN BULLDOGS
Adelaide
B: Graham Johncock, Ben Rutten, Nathan Bassett
HB: Andrew McLeod, Nathan Bock, Michael Doughty
C: Brad Symes, Simon Goodwin, David Mackay
HF: Nathan van Berlo, Nick Gill, Bernie Vince
F: Jason Porplyzia, Kurt Tippett, Richard Douglas
Foll: Ivan Maric, Scott Thompson, Tyson Edwards
I/C: Kris Massie, Robert Shirley, Chris Knights, Scott Stevens
EMG: Brad Moran, Bryce Campbell, Brent Reilly

In: Tippett, Porplyzia, Vince
Out: Brad Moran, Brent Reilly, Patrick Dangerfield


Western Bulldogs
B: Lindsay Gilbee, Brian Lake, Tim Callan
HB: Matthew Boyd, Ryan Hargrave, Dale Morris
C: Nathan Eagleton, Daniel Cross, Josh Hill
HF: Robert Murphy, Mitch Hahn, Brad Johnson
F: Jason Akermanis, Will Minson, Scott Welsh
Foll: Ben Hudson, Adam Cooney, Ryan Griffen
I/C: Daniel Giansiracusa, Jarrod Harbrow, Shaun Higgins, Sam Reid
EMG: Farren Ray, Wayde Skipper, Cameron Wight

In: Gilbee, Reid
Out: Andrejs Everitt, Callan Ward

New: Sam Reid (Zillmere)



CARLTON v HAWTHORN
Carlton
B: Joe Anderson, Jarrad Waite, Bret Thornton
HB: Andrew Carrazzo, Paul Bower, Shaun Grigg
C: Nick Stevens, Bryce Gibbs, Heath Scotland
HF: Andrew Walker, Brad Fisher, Kade Simpson
F: Ryan Houlihan, Brendan Fevola, Matthew Kreuzer
Foll: Cameron Cloke, Marc Murphy, Chris Judd
I/C: Dennis Armfield, Adam Bentick, Shaun Hampson, Jordan Russell
EMG: Mark Austin, Darren Pfeiffer, Simon Wiggins

No change

Hawthorn
B: Campbell Brown, Stephen Gilham, Brent Guerra
HB: Rick Ladson, Trent Croad, Grant Birchall
C: Jordan Lewis, Sam Mitchell, Clinton Young
HF: Michael Osborne, Lance Franklin, Chance Bateman
F: Mark Williams, Jarryd Roughead, Cyril Rioli
Foll: Robert Campbell, Luke Hodge, Brad Sewell
I/C: Stuart Dew, Thomas Murphy, Brent Renouf, Cameron Stokes
EMG: Beau Dowler, Xavier Ellis, Jarryd Morton

In: Campbell, Hodge
Out: Shane Crawford (rested), Simon Taylor (general soreness)


SYDNEY SWANS v BRISBANE LIONS
Brisbane Lions
B: Joel Macdonald, Daniel Merrett, Joel Patfull
HB: Justin Sherman, Jason Roe, Troy Selwood
C: Bradd Dalziell, Simon Black, Jed Adcock
HF: Michael Rischitelli, Jonathan Brown, Tom Collier
F: Scott Harding, Daniel Bradshaw, Anthony Corrie
Foll: Jamie Charman, Luke Power, Jared Brennan
I/C: Pearce Hanley, Albert Proud, Lachlan Henderson, Scott Clouston
EMG: Rhan Hooper, Wayde Mills, James Hawksley

In: Selwood, Henderson, Clouston, Collier, Proud, Harding
Out: Ashley McGrath (quad), Matthew Moody (groin), Robert Copeland, James Hawksley, Travis Johnstone, Rhan Hooper



MELBOURNE v RICHMOND
Melbourne
B: Matthew Whelan, Nathan Carroll, Daniel Bell
HB: James Frawley, Matthew Warnock, Colin Garland
C: Cameron Bruce, James McDonald, Brad Green
HF: Ricky Petterd, Brad Miller, Simon Buckley
F: Addam Maric, Colin Sylvia, Adem Yze
Foll: Jeff White, Clint Bartram, Nathan Jones
I/C (from): Jack Grimes, Ben Holland, Stefan Martin, Cale Morton, Matthew Newton, Paul Wheatley, Shane Valenti

In: Frawley, Grimes, Maric, Petterd, Valenti, Holland, Carroll
Out: Mark Jamar, Matthew Bate, Lynden Dunn, Austin Wonaeamirri (hamstring)

New: Jack Grimes (Northern Knights)

Richmond
B: Chris Newman, Will Thursfield, Kelvin Moore
HB: Jay Schulz, Luke McGuane, Jordan McMahon
C: Matthew Richardson, Shane Tuck, Brett Deledio
HF: Matt White, Joel Bowden, Richard Tambling
F: Shane Edwards, Jack Riewoldt, Trent Cotchin
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Kane Johnson, Nathan Foley
I/C (from): Greg Tivendale, Mitch Morton, Dean Polo, Adam Pattison, Alex Rance, Daniel Jackson, Daniel Connors

In: Tivendale, Pattison, Polo, Rance
Out: Tristan Cartledge

New: Alex Rance (Swan Districts)


ESSENDON v ST KILDA
Essendon
B: Henry Slattery, Nathan Lovett-Murray, Mark McVeigh
HB: Jay Nash, Patrick Ryder, Damien Peverill
C: Ricky Dyson, Jobe Watson, Andrew Lovett
HF: Jason Johnson, Matthew Lloyd, Angus Monfries
F: Sam Lonergan, Mal Michael, Adam Ramanauskas
Foll: Tom Bellchambers, Heath Hocking, Brent Stanton
I/C (from): Jarrod Atkinson, Danny Chartres, Cale Hooker, Leroy Jetta, Rhys Magin, Kyle Reimers, John Williams

In: Atkinson, Chartres, Jetta, Reimers, Williams
Out: Adam McPhee (ankle), Andrew Welsh (hamstring)

New: Danny Chartres (Peel Thunder/rookie list), John Williams (Morningside)

St Kilda
B: Sean Dempster, Sam Fisher, Jason Gram
HB: Brendon Goddard, Max Hudghton, Jason Blake
C: Sam Gilbert, Nick Dal Santo, Lenny Hayes
HF: Robert Harvey, Nick Riewoldt, Robert Eddy
F: Clint Jones, Justin Koschitzke, Adam Schneider
Foll: Steven King, Shane Birss, Leigh Montagna
I/C (from): Stephen Milne, James Gwilt, Charlie Gardiner, David Armitage, Aaron Fiora, Raphael Clarke, Jarryd Allen

In: Fiora, Allen, Armitage
Out: -

[Dutchy]

NORTH MELBOURNE v PORT ADELAIDE
North Melbourne
B: Josh Gibson, Drew Petrie, Michael Firrito
HB: Daniel Pratt, Lachlan Hansen, Gavin Urquhart
C: Leigh Harding, Adam Simpson, Daniel Wells
HF: Brent Harvey, Corey Jones, Shannon Grant
F: Aaron Edwards, David Hale, Matt Campbell
Foll: Hamish McIntosh, Daniel Harris, Brady Rawlings
I/C: Sam Power, Lindsay Thomas, Shannon Watt, Scott McMahon
EMG: Ed Lower, Jess Sinclair, Todd Goldstein

In: Campbell, Edwards
Out: Jess Sinclair, Scott Thompson

Thats is one good side, probably the best we have put on the park all year, despite having a tough run with injuries we have now got most of them back (wasnt aware Edwards was so close to coming back, along with Campbell another headache for Chocco!)

Take Grant and Simpson out of that side and you have a team that will be together for at least the next 3-4 years....

Memo to some Victorian "Powerhouse" Clubs - Proof you dont need to bottom out to be successful....its the easy option though which I think they have taken....

[Booney]

Successful? WHAAAAAAT ?

You got smashed in last years finals and have not WON anything this year,yet.

[Hondo]

Where is Darren Pfeiffer at? He keeps being listed as an emergency in a bottom 8 side.

Any chance he'll be back at Norwood next year?

[JK]

Where is Darren Pfeiffer at? He keeps being listed as an emergency in a bottom 8 side.

Any chance he'll be back at Norwood next year?

At a guess I'd think he'll get one more year at Carlton to try to prove himself mate, and then if he hasn't succeeded I'd think he would come back home.

[Dutchy]

Successful? WHAAAAAAT ?

You got smashed in last years finals and have not WON anything this year,yet.

here we go again, 3rd last year after being odds on for the Spoon, again everyone had us out of the 8 this year and likely to finish 4th before the finals...

Richmond, Melbourne, Essendon, Saints, Carlton...have all taken the easy of option of bottoming out to get the picks to mount a fresh challenge, they all would have killed for the success of the Roos the past 2 years....even Geelong/Hawks and Collingwood bottomed out to a degree...

All Im saying is that despite all the doom and gloom from 2 years ago, we have developed a team that will challenge for premierships in the next 5 years...without high draft picks

[Booney]

Richmond, Melbourne, Essendon, Saints, Carlton...have all taken the easy of option of bottoming out to get the picks to mount a fresh challenge,

Yeah right,go and ask any fans of the above mentioned teams and ask them if it has been "easy" for the last 5 years......or for that fact a Port fan this year.

IMO,finishing 4th after 4th after 4th is not successful......

[Dutchy]

Richmond, Melbourne, Essendon, Saints, Carlton...have all taken the easy of option of bottoming out to get the picks to mount a fresh challenge,

Yeah right,go and ask any fans of the above mentioned teams and ask them if it has been "easy" for the last 5 years......or for that fact a Port fan this year.

IMO,finishing 4th after 4th after 4th is not successful......

Ask Hawks/Geelong fans if the past 2 years have been worth the pain the previous seasons...

i wasnt talking about the fans, I was talking about the club who make the decisions to bottom out...

[Rik E Boy]

Why would we bother asking Hawk fans anything? They haven't won a premiership for 16 years. That is the point Booney is making but jeez he loves getting stuck into North ha ha.

regards,

REB

[Booney]

Yeah,wot 'e said....

[Thiele]

My tips

Collingwood
Kangaroos
Adelaide
Geelong
Sydney
Hawthorn
Saints
Richmond

[Thiele]

ESSENDON v ST KILDA
Essendon
B: Henry Slattery, Nathan Lovett-Murray, Mark McVeigh
HB: Jay Nash, Patrick Ryder, Damien Peverill
C: Ricky Dyson, Jobe Watson, Andrew Lovett
HF: Jason Johnson, Matthew Lloyd, Angus Monfries
F: Sam Lonergan, Mal Michael, Adam Ramanauskas
Foll: Tom Bellchambers, Heath Hocking, Brent Stanton
I/C: Leroy Jetta, Rhys Magin, Cale Hooker, John Williams
EMG: Jarrod Atkinson, Danny Chartres, Kyle Reimers

In: Jetta, Williams
Out: Adam McPhee (ankle), Andrew Welsh (hamstring)

New: John Williams (Morningside)

St Kilda
B: Sean Dempster, Sam Fisher, Jason Gram
HB: Brendon Goddard, Max Hudghton, Jason Blake
C: Sam Gilbert, Nick Dal Santo, Lenny Hayes
HF: Robert Harvey, Nick Riewoldt, Robert Eddy
F: Clint Jones, Justin Koschitzke, Adam Schneider
Foll: Steven King, Shane Birss, Leigh Montagna
I/C: Stephen Milne, James Gwilt, Charlie Gardiner, Raphael Clarke
EMG: Jarryd Allen, David Armitage, Aaron Fiora


No change

[Thiele]

A first in the Afl a head trainer suspended for two weeks http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/ ... wsId=66602

[Dirko]

Carlton...have all taken the easy of option of bottoming out

I blame Pagan

[stan]

Collingwood was terrible last night. Terrible game to watch!

[best on hill]

Collingwood was terrible last night. Terrible game to watch!

you hit the head on the nail there stan. the only good thing to come out of last nights game was a collingwood loss.

[Psyber]

Where is Darren Pfeiffer at? He keeps being listed as an emergency in a bottom 8 side.
Any chance he'll be back at Norwood next year?

At a guess I'd think he'll get one more year at Carlton to try to prove himself mate, and then if he hasn't succeeded I'd think he would come back home.

Remember all those people saying the Crows should have selected him?
I'm not sure Norwood should unless he is prepared to make being fit for football a higher priority...

[Dirko]

Shinboneme.....

[locky801]

But then again finish 4th and play Geelong and get all your confidence slammed

[RustyCage]

But then again finish 4th and play Geelong and get all your confidence slammed

...and a home final in the second week