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[sydney-dog]

been a while sice both clubs have been bridesmaids

I would say, more like Ushers

[am Bays]

I say this as if I had a 2nd AFL side it would either be Carlton or Geelong, had ha bit of a soft spot for the cats since I was 6 and realised that Geelong and Glenelg have similar names (both have 2 x G's and E's 1 x E & L) so much for 6 y o logic!!

Other things they share in common
similar amount of flags (Ge-6 , Gl-4)
better known as bridesmaids

You forgot to throw in Collingwood there Punkster if you look at their finals record since 1960.......

[Booney]

Oh LMAO Rik-E-Boy,seems as though the patience at Catland is running thin.You know a club is struggling when the team gets booed from the arena,shame on you Cat fans,the only club that has the ability to do that is the Crows.See Burton,Perrie and any other victims.
Any way,buck up little camper,with West Coast,Hessington,Fremantle,Crows and Carlton to come,you could be well placed at 5 and 8.Not bad for the great Vic hope.......

[sydney-dog]

Booney,

I have been to a few AFL games and I think every club has a player who their supporters get frustrated with

I admit, both Perrie and Birdman causes me anxiety attacks at times but I will never ever boo a player in the tri colours

I have been at skilled stadium when both Kingsley and Ottens have been booed, I know Medhurst and Waterhouse copped it at Freo........

I agree I have heard the boo's for both Perrie and Burton but I don't think the Crows stand alone here, three weeks ago Wallace got booed off the MCG after the Swans loss, now he is a king, some supporters have gold fish memories

[sydney-dog]

are the Cats a chance against the Eagles minus Judd

was it last year when the Cats turned their season around by beating the eagles at Cattery

[Booney]

Booney,

I have been to a few AFL games and I think every club has a player who their supporters get frustrated with

I admit, both Perrie and Birdman causes me anxiety attacks at times but I will never ever boo a player in the tri colours

I have been at skilled stadium when both Kingsley and Ottens have been booed, I know Medhurst and Waterhouse copped it at Freo........

I agree I have heard the boo's for both Perrie and Burton but I don't think the Crows stand alone here, three weeks ago Wallace got booed off the MCG after the Swans loss, now he is a king, some supporters have gold fish memories

I know how it is Syd,Port were only,sorry ARE only a home loss or two away from the fans turning on each other.Thats why I said what I did about the Crow players getting booed,because I think it is a real sign of the general mentality of a supporter group on display when they jeer their own.It simply isnt appropriate behaviour.

[doggies4eva]

Booney,

I have been to a few AFL games and I think every club has a player who their supporters get frustrated with

I admit, both Perrie and Birdman causes me anxiety attacks at times but I will never ever boo a player in the tri colours

I have been at skilled stadium when both Kingsley and Ottens have been booed, I know Medhurst and Waterhouse copped it at Freo........

I agree I have heard the boo's for both Perrie and Burton but I don't think the Crows stand alone here, three weeks ago Wallace got booed off the MCG after the Swans loss, now he is a king, some supporters have gold fish memories

I know how it is Syd,Port were only,sorry ARE only a home loss or two away from the fans turning on each other.Thats why I said what I did about the Crow players getting booed,because I think it is a real sign of the general mentality of a supporter group on display when they jeer their own.It simply isnt appropriate behaviour.

That is bandwagon behaviour. They are not true supporters. I have never booed a doggies player, mind you I have banged my head against a few brick walls in frustration.

[Blue Boy]

Just dont know what to say - looked like world beaters early in the year.

[MatteeG]

Classic post REB. Dont worry, my lads are trying hard to join you!

MatteeG

[sydney-dog]

is fitness an issue for the cats, since their wins in the opening 2 rounds they have only won 1 fourth 1/4 and that was against the swans by 2 pts

[blink]

My "throw" quote was quite obviously a tongue in cheek dip at the way some clubs accept mediocrity and get rewarded for it.

From memory (and I could be wrong and am willing to be corrected on any of these):

1994 Sydney Last
1993 Sydney Last
1992 Sydney Last

2000 Port 14th

Hey Wedgie, I am not taking this piss or anything but I would like to know who Sydney picked up with the draft picks they received in these years and if they are still playing? I am guessing not many...

I would have thought (no, this isn't E. McGuire) that the salary cap concession may have been more helpful to Sydney rather than draft picks?

[Blue Boy]

My "throw" quote was quite obviously a tongue in cheek dip at the way some clubs accept mediocrity and get rewarded for it.

From memory (and I could be wrong and am willing to be corrected on any of these):

1994 Sydney Last
1993 Sydney Last
1992 Sydney Last

2000 Port 14th

Hey Wedgie, I am not taking this piss or anything but I would like to know who Sydney picked up with the draft picks they received in these years and if they are still playing? I am guessing not many...

I would have thought (no, this isn't E. McGuire) that the salary cap concession may have been more helpful to Sydney rather than draft picks?

1994 Sydney Last
Anthony Rocca pick 2 - Shannon Grant pick 3 - Stuart Mangin pick 20 - Matthew Nicks pick 21 - Michael O'loughlin pick 40 - Emil Parthenides pick 57 - Troy Luff 74 - Simon Arnott 87 - Pete Caven Uncontracted
- Zone Selections Leo Barry - Justin Crawford & Tim Scott
- Pre Season Dermott Brerton - Derek Kickett - Andrew Bomford

1993 Sydney Last
Darren Gaspar pick 1 - Glenn Gorman pick 4 - Adam Heuskus pick 5 - Wade Chapman pick 20 - Dion Myles pick 22 - Daryl Griffin pick 28 - Ashley Thompson pick 38 - Simon Garlick pick 49
- Zone Selctions Stefan Carey & Brad Seymour
- Pre season Richard Osbourne - Paul Bryce - John Hutton

1992 Sydney Last
Jason Spinks pick 5 - Scott Robinson pick 35 - Matthew Aston pick 71
- Pre Season Damien Mellow - Alan Thorpe - Allan Mckellar - Adam Peck - Phil Krakouer
- Mid Season Dwaine Kretschmer - Paul Mcmaster - Daryn Cresswell

It look like they started to get there act together in 94 ( re drafting )

[am Bays]

REB, Wedgie, any news on why the Cats got rid of their Fitness Coach Loris bertolacci before the Hawthorn game??

It was kept in house with the club not giving any reason why this occured onn account that legal preceedings may follow.

Seems to me that there may be more to this that meets the eye i.e. the NAB cCup may have covered a multitude of sins bubbling under the surface at Cat Land vis-a-vis the coaching and playing group harmony.....

FWIW I know Loris and he is a good operator when it comes to fitness conditioning for elite footballers

[blink]

1994 Sydney Last
Anthony Rocca pick 2 - Shannon Grant pick 3 - Stuart Mangin pick 20 - Matthew Nicks pick 21 - Michael O'loughlin pick 40 - Emil Parthenides pick 57 - Troy Luff 74 - Simon Arnott 87 - Pete Caven Uncontracted
- Zone Selections Leo Barry - Justin Crawford & Tim Scott
- Pre Season Dermott Brerton - Derek Kickett - Andrew Bomford

1993 Sydney Last
Darren Gaspar pick 1 - Glenn Gorman pick 4 - Adam Heuskus pick 5 - Wade Chapman pick 20 - Dion Myles pick 22 - Daryl Griffin pick 28 - Ashley Thompson pick 38 - Simon Garlick pick 49
- Zone Selctions Stefan Carey & Brad Seymour
- Pre season Richard Osbourne - Paul Bryce - John Hutton

1992 Sydney Last
Jason Spinks pick 5 - Scott Robinson pick 35 - Matthew Aston pick 71
- Pre Season Damien Mellow - Alan Thorpe - Allan Mckellar - Adam Peck - Phil Krakouer
- Mid Season Dwaine Kretschmer - Paul Mcmaster - Daryn Cresswell

It look like they started to get there act together in 94 ( re drafting )

Cheers for that BB. So in all only 2 of these players played in the premiership side - Leo Barry & Michael O'Loughlin.

Moreover, the only other player who could be considered a good player who played at length for Sydney would be Creswell.

[stan]

Oh LMAO Rik-E-Boy,seems as though the patience at Catland is running thin.You know a club is struggling when the team gets booed from the arena,shame on you Cat fans,the only club that has the ability to do that is the Crows.See Burton,Perrie and any other victims.
Any way,buck up little camper,with West Coast,Hessington,Fremantle,Crows and Carlton to come,you could be well placed at 5 and 8.Not bad for the great Vic hope.......

Whats going on down there. The were the great Vic hope, but at the moment it looks like Collingwood can have that mantle for now. Geelong shoundnt be concerned with making a GF or the finals for that matter. Probably should concentrate on winning this week.

[GWW]

My "throw" quote was quite obviously a tongue in cheek dip at the way some clubs accept mediocrity and get rewarded for it.

From memory (and I could be wrong and am willing to be corrected on any of these):

1994 Sydney Last
1993 Sydney Last
1992 Sydney Last

2000 Port 14th

Hey Wedgie, I am not taking this piss or anything but I would like to know who Sydney picked up with the draft picks they received in these years and if they are still playing? I am guessing not many...

I would have thought (no, this isn't E. McGuire) that the salary cap concession may have been more helpful to Sydney rather than draft picks?

1994 Sydney Last
Anthony Rocca pick 2 - Shannon Grant pick 3 - Stuart Mangin pick 20 - Matthew Nicks pick 21 - Michael O'loughlin pick 40 - Emil Parthenides pick 57 - Troy Luff 74 - Simon Arnott 87 - Pete Caven Uncontracted
- Zone Selections Leo Barry - Justin Crawford & Tim Scott
- Pre Season Dermott Brerton - Derek Kickett - Andrew Bomford

1993 Sydney Last
Darren Gaspar pick 1 - Glenn Gorman pick 4 - Adam Heuskus pick 5 - Wade Chapman pick 20 - Dion Myles pick 22 - Daryl Griffin pick 28 - Ashley Thompson pick 38 - Simon Garlick pick 49
- Zone Selctions Stefan Carey & Brad Seymour
- Pre season Richard Osbourne - Paul Bryce - John Hutton

1992 Sydney Last
Jason Spinks pick 5 - Scott Robinson pick 35 - Matthew Aston pick 71
- Pre Season Damien Mellow - Alan Thorpe - Allan Mckellar - Adam Peck - Phil Krakouer
- Mid Season Dwaine Kretschmer - Paul Mcmaster - Daryn Cresswell

It look like they started to get there act together in 94 ( re drafting )

Its interesting how the AFL has modified the "bonus draft pick" rule only after Brisbane and Sydney have established themselves in the competition. No doubt if they were still struggling, they'd get their extra pick (if they qualified by winning 4 games or less) at the start of the first round, not the start of the second round ie they wouldn't have changed the rule.

At the risk of sounding like Eddie.....bout time you took away those salary cap concessions Mr Demetriou (the Sydney rationale is slightly justifiable, they do have increased housing/CPI costs etc, but i'd say the reality is that that extra allowance would be used to recruit players such as Hall and Lockett who other clubs cant fit into their cap). But for Brisbane, what a sham, as if they have any more problems keeping their players at their club/state than any other club. What a joke!! So what if they lost Headland, the Adelaide clubs alone, have lost Carr, Stevens, Stenglein, and Johnson. It just infuriates me that these 2 clubs have this advantage over other clubs.

[Magpiespower]

I know how it is Syd,Port were only,sorry ARE only a home loss or two away from the fans turning on each other.Thats why I said what I did about the Crow players getting booed,because I think it is a real sign of the general mentality of a supporter group on display when they jeer their own.It simply isnt appropriate behaviour.

Some 'supporters' have even been known to spit on their players...

[JK]

There's no excuses.

The umpires cost Geelong 4-5 goals but Richo cost Richmond 4-5 goals so its all squared, the better team won on the day.

On the umpires though, has anyone seen a worse decision than when the umpire gave a goal to Richmond by penalising Milburn for bouncing the ball calling it a throw? I've never seen such an amazingly bad ridciulous decision in all my life, do you have to hand pass bounces to yourself now?
Saddest part about it is the amount these AFL umpires that don't even know the rules get paid!

Finally managed to see the vision of this play & subsequent decision last night on "White Line Fever" ... And whilst I could see the side Derek Humphrey-Bear was coming from, I disagree with the decision for two reasons ... If he had been tackled whilst doing it, then HTB no worries ... If the ball had not bounced back to him then possibly the call for a throw would have carried more weight, however it did come back to him and despite the fact it probably wasn't Milburn's intention, must surely have been deemed a bounce and play on...

[Blue Boy]

There's no excuses.

The umpires cost Geelong 4-5 goals but Richo cost Richmond 4-5 goals so its all squared, the better team won on the day.

On the umpires though, has anyone seen a worse decision than when the umpire gave a goal to Richmond by penalising Milburn for bouncing the ball calling it a throw? I've never seen such an amazingly bad ridciulous decision in all my life, do you have to hand pass bounces to yourself now?
Saddest part about it is the amount these AFL umpires that don't even know the rules get paid!

Finally managed to see the vision of this play & subsequent decision last night on "White Line Fever" ... And whilst I could see the side Derek Humphrey-Bear was coming from, I disagree with the decision for two reasons ... If he had been tackled whilst doing it, then HTB no worries ... If the ball had not bounced back to him then possibly the call for a throw would have carried more weight, however it did come back to him and despite the fact it probably wasn't Milburn's intention, must surely have been deemed a bounce and play on...

I saw the same thing and agree totally.

I think the effort to keep the ball in play should also be rewarded !!!

Umpires - hmmmmm !!!

[Rik E Boy]

I don't buy the 4-5 umpires goals to Richmond line. I'd give em two. Hyde clearly marked a ball that wasn't paid and on another occasion Ottens tried to take the ball out of the ruck contest and should have been pinged. Geelong were absolutely screwed by the maggots against the Tigers with number 18 putting on a classic cheating performance...I hope he slept well at night after collecting on his punt Saturday night.

Here is what I reckon is five goals provided to the Tiges by the cheating maggot bastards....


1. Milburn decision. Absolute shocker. Penalising the defender for being too clever for his opponent. Goal to Tivendale
2. Three centre bouces went directly to the Richmond ruckman, one of these clearances led to a Tiger goal.
3. On two seperate occasions Kayne Pettifer planted his hands in his opponent's back when attempting to mark and duly kicked two goals. When Cameron Ling did the same thing it was a free kick to Richmond. Fans, even emotional fans of frustrating football clubs can accept the fact that umpires make mistakes..all we want is some consistency. A three goal gift to Richmond right there.


Here's another beauty for you. Chapman and Ablett were both unfairly crunched off the ball..no free kick to the Cats. When I watched a news report you could see that Ablett was dealt with unfairly with what appeared to be a swinging arm, not even a free kick where Cameron Mooney copped a week for a kiss on Holland who took a mighty dive worthy of Matty Lloyd.

Biased? You bet, but I'm not a football umpire. Watch the Richmond and Geelong game again (I can't bear to) and then tell me that Geelong didn't get the wrong end of the stick and just how you figured that out, I would be more than happy to listen. The reason why Geelong lost wasn't the umpiring, that much was true (I believe our problem is that we can't kick the football. Can't kick straight for goals and can't hit a target in field play) but the umpiring was truly pathetic and did nothing to assist our cause. Number 18 should join Kingsley in the magoos.

regards,

REB