3rd SA AFL club

Talk on the national game

3rd SA AFL club

Postby Black Diamond » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:49 pm

Just throwing this one out there as a discussion topic:

Could SA one day support a third AFL club? Will it always just be the Crows and Port?

Look at it this way:
Victoria has a population of about 5.2 million and 10 clubs (about 520,000 each)
SA has about 1.5 million and 2 clubs (750,000 each).
By 2050 it is predicted SA will have a population of 2 million, that would be 660,000 between 3 clubs.

If there is a third club, what shape would it take? - I'll put forward a couple of options:
A Norwood-Sturt merger (as was proposed in 1994) creating an eastern suburbs club - perhaps struggling Melbourne will one day relocate and become the Norwood-Sturt Demons wearing red and blue?
Central District, taking advantage of the population boom up there and strong attachment northern suburbs people have to the area

I reckon both of these would attract supporters away from the Crows based on the geographical attachment supporters would have to these clubs and the area they represent.

I don't think this is viable now, but who knows 10, 20, 30 years down the track.
User avatar
Black Diamond
Mini-League
 
 
Posts: 6
Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 7:10 pm
Location: Alberton
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 0 time

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby Psyber » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:55 pm

Except 10 clubs are struggling in Melbourne, so 520,000 each may not be enough.
Also, as much as I like the Norwood merger option, I really can't see Adelaide's growth being sufficient, given the likelihood of the Murray running dry, and the cost of desalination.
EPIGENETICS - Lamarck was right!
User avatar
Psyber
Coach
 
 
Posts: 12247
Joined: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:43 pm
Location: Now back in the Adelaide Hills.
Has liked: 104 times
Been liked: 405 times
Grassroots Team: Hahndorf

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby the joker » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:56 pm

will never happen
I love vegatarian food. It goes great with steak.
User avatar
the joker
Assistant Coach
 
 
Posts: 4687
Joined: Wed May 09, 2007 4:09 pm
Has liked: 33 times
Been liked: 59 times

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby Dirko » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:58 pm

The day Port Power start selling out Footy Park every week, and garner 750 000 members/supporters, then it'll happen.

i.e Never...
The joy of being on the hill drinking beer cannot be understated
User avatar
Dirko
Coach
 
 
Posts: 11456
Joined: Sat Jul 29, 2006 7:17 pm
Location: Snouts Hill
Has liked: 6 times
Been liked: 2 times
Grassroots Team: SMOSH West Lakes

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby Hazbeen » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:06 pm

Couldn't happen, any new side would have to be based either north or south with a different home ground to footy park.

A northern based team (eg Centrals based) would then have to draw people away from Crows & Port.

I don't think there is enough other footy followers in SA to have a successful 3rd side.
Hazbeen
Veteran
 
 
Posts: 3879
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:39 pm
Has liked: 1 time
Been liked: 126 times
Grassroots Team: Hummocks-Watchman

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby am Bays » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:22 am

Where is JAr MAn Out when you need him,

BD in a word no, for reasons others have mentioned, population and support for a third team.
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
User avatar
am Bays
Coach
 
 
Posts: 19758
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:04 pm
Location: The back bar at Lennies
Has liked: 184 times
Been liked: 2128 times

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby Booney » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:23 am

Nice avatar mate. =D>

On a serious note,no.Surley Tasmania and the NT would be more of a chance of supporting an AFL side there.Makes me wonder,why do Taswegians get teased by Hawthorn when the Western suburbs of Sydney are too busy rioting to give a flying about an AFL side.Just because there are lots of people doesnt mean they are going to go to the footy.
If you want to go quickly, go alone.

If you want to go far, go together.
User avatar
Booney
Coach
 
 
Posts: 61708
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:47 pm
Location: Alberton proud
Has liked: 8211 times
Been liked: 11942 times

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby CUTTERMAN » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:25 am

No
'PAFC don't want any advantages in the SANFL. It would only take away from any achievements we earned.'
Keith Thomas ABC 891 Radio, 21/6/14.
CUTTERMAN
League - Top 5
 
 
Posts: 2962
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:50 pm
Has liked: 214 times
Been liked: 126 times

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby silent hour » Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:08 am

I think a distinct possibility that it could happen is if a current melbourne club (eg North Melbourne) relocates and uses Adelaide oval as its ground. Maybe not in the immediate future but maybe within 5 - 6 years.
silent hour
Reserves
 
 
Posts: 895
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:49 pm
Location: Adelaide
Has liked: 18 times
Been liked: 3 times

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby Sojourner » Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:24 am

Would love to see AFL footy at Adelaide Oval!
Steamranger, South Australia's best ever Tourist Attraction, Treat Yourself, Let your Money Buy you Happiness!!!
User avatar
Sojourner
Veteran
 
 
Posts: 3745
Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:25 pm
Has liked: 7 times
Been liked: 3 times
Grassroots Team: Ovingham

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby JK » Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:37 am

Most likely never but certainly not in the next 10 years imho.
FUSC
User avatar
JK
Coach
 
 
Posts: 37460
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:11 am
Location: Coopers Hill
Has liked: 4485 times
Been liked: 3024 times
Grassroots Team: SMOSH West Lakes

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby Psyber » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:31 pm

silent hour wrote:I think a distinct possibility that it could happen is if a current melbourne club (eg North Melbourne) relocates and uses Adelaide oval as its ground. Maybe not in the immediate future but maybe within 5 - 6 years.

Not going to happen. If any Melbourne club relocates it will be northwards.

Telstra/Foxtel are putting up the cash and they will tell the AFL exactly where, and that will be where they have most subscribers or potential subscribers prepared to pay to follow a "local" team.
EPIGENETICS - Lamarck was right!
User avatar
Psyber
Coach
 
 
Posts: 12247
Joined: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:43 pm
Location: Now back in the Adelaide Hills.
Has liked: 104 times
Been liked: 405 times
Grassroots Team: Hahndorf

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby Bubbula » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:41 pm

Black Diamond wrote:Just throwing this one out there as a discussion topic:

Could SA one day support a third AFL club? Will it always just be the Crows and Port?

Look at it this way:
Victoria has a population of about 5.2 million and 10 clubs (about 520,000 each)
SA has about 1.5 million and 2 clubs (750,000 each).
By 2050 it is predicted SA will have a population of 2 million, that would be 660,000 between 3 clubs.

If there is a third club, what shape would it take? - I'll put forward a couple of options:
A Norwood-Sturt merger (as was proposed in 1994) creating an eastern suburbs club - perhaps struggling Melbourne will one day relocate and become the Norwood-Sturt Demons wearing red and blue?
Central District, taking advantage of the population boom up there and strong attachment northern suburbs people have to the area

I reckon both of these would attract supporters away from the Crows based on the geographical attachment supporters would have to these clubs and the area they represent.

I don't think this is viable now, but who knows 10, 20, 30 years down the track.


I dont think this will ever eventuate. The state is already populated and devided with 2 popular clubs. It would be extremely hard to generate membership. possibilty down the track to give it a go but not in the next decade. And if the AFL was really expanding Nth Queensland would be a good option..
A winner never quits and a quitter never wins.. So who came up with the saying quit while your ahead.
Respecting that someone's allowed to have an opinion doesnt at all mean you must respect that opinion.
Everybody has a plan until they've been hit!!
Bubbula
Under 18s
 
 
Posts: 644
Joined: Fri May 16, 2008 10:58 pm
Location: Adelaide
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 0 time

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby stan » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:47 pm

No chnace. Not even in 10 years. SA refuses to expand or develop.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
User avatar
stan
Coach
 
 
Posts: 15524
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:53 am
Location: North Eastern Suburbs
Has liked: 88 times
Been liked: 1318 times
Grassroots Team: Goodwood Saints

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby Bubbula » Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:12 pm

stan wrote:No chnace. Not even in 10 years. SA refuses to expand or develop.


Fair enough really
A winner never quits and a quitter never wins.. So who came up with the saying quit while your ahead.
Respecting that someone's allowed to have an opinion doesnt at all mean you must respect that opinion.
Everybody has a plan until they've been hit!!
Bubbula
Under 18s
 
 
Posts: 644
Joined: Fri May 16, 2008 10:58 pm
Location: Adelaide
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 0 time

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby Dog_ger » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:33 pm

Central District for the AFL. :lol: :wink:

With Government, SANFL and AFL help to build a World Standard Arena. [-o< =D>

With a possible Merger with our Rooster Buddies..... :lol: :lol:
Smile :)

It's only Money $$$ :)

What is happening to our SANFL guys...
User avatar
Dog_ger
Coach
 
 
Posts: 6536
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:25 pm
Location: Salisbury Downs
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 19 times

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby Ian » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:42 pm

Dog_ger wrote:Central District for the AFL. :lol: :wink:

With Government, SANFL and AFL help to build a World Standard Arena. [-o< =D>

With a possible Merger with our Rooster Buddies..... :lol: :lol:


Only if the merged club was called the North Adelaide Roosters :wink:
North Adelaide F C : Champions of Aust 1972 : Premiers 1900, 02, 05, 20, 30, 31, 49, 52, 60, 71, 72, 87, 91
User avatar
Ian
Moderator
 
 
Posts: 11443
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:25 pm
Has liked: 312 times
Been liked: 93 times
Grassroots Team: Lockleys

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby Dog_ger » Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:11 pm

The Adelaide Northerners..... :lol:

The Central Roosters.... :lol:
Smile :)

It's only Money $$$ :)

What is happening to our SANFL guys...
User avatar
Dog_ger
Coach
 
 
Posts: 6536
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:25 pm
Location: Salisbury Downs
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 19 times

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby Psyber » Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:33 pm

Dog_ger wrote:The Adelaide Northerners..... :lol:
The Central Roosters.... :lol:

A pommie AFL team from Lizbeff!? :shock:
EPIGENETICS - Lamarck was right!
User avatar
Psyber
Coach
 
 
Posts: 12247
Joined: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:43 pm
Location: Now back in the Adelaide Hills.
Has liked: 104 times
Been liked: 405 times
Grassroots Team: Hahndorf

Re: 3rd SA AFL club

Postby Dog_ger » Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:40 pm

"A team for all Australians" :wink:

WATCH THIS SPACE... :wink:

Obviously we can't be "RED & White", :( :(

or

Red, White & Blue..... :( :(

Funny named colours to surface....

No-one ever heard of teal before the Power...? :shock:
Smile :)

It's only Money $$$ :)

What is happening to our SANFL guys...
User avatar
Dog_ger
Coach
 
 
Posts: 6536
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:25 pm
Location: Salisbury Downs
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 19 times

Next

Board index   Football  AFL

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 23 guests

Around the place

Competitions   SANFL Official Site | Country Footy SA | Southern Football League | VFL Footy
Club Forums   Snouts Louts | The Roost | Redlegs Forum |