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Re: STATE OF ORIGIN FOOTBALL SANFL V VIC ????

Postby Mickyj » Thu May 29, 2008 5:52 pm

fester69 wrote:These games are a joke! You should only be allowed to wear a State Guernsey simply under State of Origin rules! Players from all over Australia can wear a club guernsey, and be great club men, however a State Guernsey shouldn't be given away, no matter how long you've played in either comp! Footy free weekend coming up for me I'm afraid. Remember the "outrage" surrounding the "Dreamteam" recently? This is just as farcical IMHO!


Well Fester I am old enough to have watched Blight etc play for Sa Vic and SA. They didnt have SOO back then pity really.
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Re: STATE OF ORIGIN FOOTBALL SANFL V VIC ????

Postby Grahaml » Thu May 29, 2008 6:11 pm

It's about time someone said it, but State of Origin was a short lived fad. How many teams have represented the SANFL compared to SA state of origin? It was a response to our players choosing to play in the strongest comp they could, the VFL, and to appease the anger/disappointment of the public along with the slight pang of regret that those players could no longer play in front of friends and family (and perhaps their home state fans). State of Origin was an 80s thing. It kept gonig into the 90s because some of the 80s games were great games. It died because the public, players AND clubs stopped caring about it so much. It worked in the 80s because we had a good group of SA players who could compete with Victoria. It worked because every now and then we could see Kernahan, Bradley and Platten (to name a few) tearing up footy park once more. it appeased us, the players and the clubs let it happen because it was a way of making sure their players didn't get too home sick. The AFL solved all those problems. And SA started to get hammered because the VICs were far too strong.

Let State of Origin die. It has NO place in the game anymore. There is no fair format to play this. If you want an elite game, all players have to be able to play. SA vs VIC means WA, QLD, TAS, NSW etc can't have their players playing. A knockout comp is too taxing and takes too much time. A round robin comp is worse! The dream team game was the fairest solution. Half the players come from Victoria, and half the best 50 players come from victoria as well. And it's the simplest way to separate the best 50 players into 2 reasonably even teams. No state of origin format works. And our game is not suited to an "elite" game. Look at the most developed contact sports competitions in the world. Name me one that pits representative teams against each other outside their regular competition with ANY modicum of a successful competition. NFL has a pro bowl, but it's a mickey mouse holiday competition. No soccer leagues do it. Rugby does, but I don't think that's a well developed code. NBA has their all star game, but the risks of injury are minimal, and the players STILL don't take it seriously.
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Re: state game SOUTH AUSTRALIA v victoria

Postby spell_check » Thu May 29, 2008 7:37 pm

fatalberton wrote:
spell_check wrote:No doubt Jack has caused this thread to slip, so I thought it would be interesting to compare the likely side with the team that went to Port Melbourne in 2005. What are peoples thoughts on a comparison to this years side to 2005?

F: Chambers Schell Backwell
HF: Sheedy Cowan Inkster
C: Smith Arnott Wintle
HB: Squire Graham Hopwood
B: Roe AhChee Whiteman
R: Lindsay J.Clayton Kenna
Int: O'Hara Bassett Borlace C.Gowans


Well a truckload of then have retired since then. One has returned to Vico, one is playing ammos, and just one went onto the AFL. Might explain why the number of SA draftees has been in steady decline. SANFL is basically a retirement village for aging players from across the country becaue we offer good coin.

Also note that Schelly and Ah Chee are now plying at the other end of the park for their clubs.

On paper I'd suggest that the 2005 team would probably be stronger and has greater versatilty, but the 2008 team is potentially more efficient.



F: Chambers Schell Backwell
HF: Sheedy Cowan
C: Smith Wintle
HB:
B: AhChee Whiteman
R: J.Clayton
Int: O'Hara Borlace C.Gowans

That's what the line up looks like with the 9 retired/departed players taken out.
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Re: STATE OF ORIGIN FOOTBALL SANFL V VIC ????

Postby OCT » Thu May 29, 2008 11:12 pm

Look at the most developed contact sports competitions in the world. Name me one that pits representative teams against each other outside their regular competition with ANY modicum of a successful competition. NFL has a pro bowl, but it's a mickey mouse holiday competition. No soccer leagues do it. Rugby does, but I don't think that's a well developed code. NBA has their all star game, but the risks of injury are minimal, and the players STILL don't take it seriously.

Good post , the game on the weekend is COMP v COMP . I cannot understand how so many people dont get this, they keep talikg about how many vics,we've got ? Who cares , how many Tasmanian s have they got ,its a stupid arguement.

I have to take you to task o the above though . Contact sports - soccer and basketball ????

The whole idea of these games are to work out who is the strongest state comp. And even one game doesnt really give an indication . Mind you I think we have won 10 of the last 12 ( ??) that is a better indication.
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Re: STATE OF ORIGIN FOOTBALL SANFL V VIC ????

Postby bayman » Thu May 29, 2008 11:17 pm

mal, who is blackwell ? on your last line of your initial post
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Re: STATE OF ORIGIN FOOTBALL SANFL V VIC ????

Postby bayman » Thu May 29, 2008 11:19 pm

as has been said it is the sanfl competition versus the vfl competition, it has nothing to do with state of origin at all :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: state game SOUTH AUSTRALIA v victoria

Postby Big Phil » Fri May 30, 2008 1:49 pm

Hey Footy Fans,

According to today’s Advertiser, here is how the 2 sides will line up against each other tomorrow, from 1.40pm with the State U/18’s playing againsts tasmania in the curtain raiser from around 10.30am. Make sure you get along early and cheer on our future AFL stars from SA...

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SOUTH AUSTRALIA:

Coach: Darel Hart


FF: 12. Daniel Havelberg 7. Brant Chambers 8. Charlie Sharples

HF: 28. James Gowans 18. Clinton Alleway 11. Leigh Treeby

C: 4. James Allen 2. Brett Backwell 10. Luke Powell

HB: 16. Paul Tomas (vc) 27. Daniel Schell 30. Nick Salter

FB: 6. Ben Kane 20. Corey AhChee 22. Andrew Hayes

RK: 17. Brad Dabrowski 1. Jade Sheedy (c) 3. Jeremy Clayton

INT: 14. Craig Parry 21. Nick Wark 15. Ian Perrie 5. Luke Crane

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VICTORIA :

Coach: Gerard Fitzgerald


FF: 2. Sephen Kenna 20. James Podsiadly (vc) 11. Patrick Rose

HF: 4. David Stretton 21. James Wall 5. Hayden Skipworth

C: 18. Justin Berry 1. Ben Johnson (c) 7. Corey McGrath

HB: 10. Alistair Neville 24. Jason Cloke 32. Jarrod Silvester

FB: 8. Tom Roach 25. Scott Meyer 29. Michael Searl

RK: 23. Tristan Cartledge 15. Adam Iacobucci 3. Robin Nahas

INT: (from) 33. Orren Stephenson 16. Danny Nicholls 19. Matthew Firman

12. Brett Goodes 17. Marcus Marigliani 36. Jacob Spolding

============================================================================================================================================

They look like 2 evenly matched up squads, with plenty of mouth watering individual clashes all over the field. Will be interesting to see former SANFL players Hayden Skipworth (Eagles), Justin Berry (South), Brett Goodes (Port), Stephen Kenna (South) and Corey McGrath (South) all having experienced our State League competition, but will now be wearing the Big V jumper. I’m looking forward to the Allan v Berry, Backwell v Johnson and Podsiadly v AhChee matchups in particular.

Like I said at the start, make sure you get down to Adelaide Oval early and give our State U/18’s a bit of support as well, they are our future stars and need all the support they can get. GO SA !!!

GO U CROWEATERS…

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Re: state game SOUTH AUSTRALIA v victoria

Postby scott » Fri May 30, 2008 1:58 pm

Big Phil wrote:VICTORIA :

FF: 2. Sephen Kenna

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Re: state game SOUTH AUSTRALIA v victoria

Postby Big Phil » Fri May 30, 2008 2:01 pm

scott wrote:
Big Phil wrote:VICTORIA :

FF: 2. Sephen Kenna

:(


Steve Kenna and even Corey McGrath would be handy acquisitions for your troubled Panthers right about now wouldn't they scott ???

Actually, they can wait 'til after Centrals play South in the following week after the State game, I want my Doggies to pump the Panthers !!!! (sorry mate)

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Re: state game SOUTH AUSTRALIA v victoria

Postby MightyEagles » Fri May 30, 2008 2:03 pm

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Re: state game SOUTH AUSTRALIA v victoria

Postby Ian » Fri May 30, 2008 2:12 pm

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Re: state game SOUTH AUSTRALIA v victoria

Postby Ian » Fri May 30, 2008 2:16 pm

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SOUTH AUSTRALIA

# NAME

1 Jade Sheedy (Captain)
2 Brett Backwell
3 Jeremy Clayton
4 James Allan
5 Luke Crane
6 Ben Kane
7 Brant Chambers
8 Charlie Sharples
9 Adam Fisher
10 Luke Powell
11 Leigh Treeby
12 Daniel Havelberg
14 Craig Parry
15 Ian Perrie
16 Paul Thomas (VC)
17 Brad Dabrowski
18 Clint Alleway
20 Corey Ahchee
21 Nicholas Wark
22 Andrew Hayes
23 Tristan Gum
27 Daniel Schell
28 James Gowans
30 Nick Salter



VICTORIA

#NAME
1 Brett Johnson (Captain)
2 Stephen Kenna
3 Robin Nahas
4 David Stretton
5 Hayden Skipworth
6 Tom Roach
7 Cory McGrath
10 Alister Neville
11 Patrick Rose
12 Brett Goodes
15 Adam Iacobucci
16 Daniel Nicholls
17 Marcus Marigliani
18 Justin Berry
19 Matthew Firman
20 James Podsiadly
21 James Wall
23 Tristan Cartledge
24 Jason Cloke
25 Scott Meyer
29 Michael Searl
32 Jarrod Silvester
33 Orren Stephenson
36 Jacob Spolding
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Re: state game SOUTH AUSTRALIA v victoria

Postby Ian » Fri May 30, 2008 2:18 pm

Not sure what's going on with the guernseys, the blue used to be the same as the shorts, a mid blue, not dark blue like the Crows. :evil:
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Re: state game SOUTH AUSTRALIA v victoria

Postby Dogsbody » Fri May 30, 2008 3:34 pm

Those jumpers they're wearing would be collectors items... note the "150 Years" badge next to the league logo.
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Re: state game SOUTH AUSTRALIA v victoria

Postby Ian » Fri May 30, 2008 5:03 pm

I would have thought any state jumper worn in a game would be a collectors item.
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Re: state game SOUTH AUSTRALIA v victoria

Postby Psyber » Fri May 30, 2008 5:32 pm

Ian wrote:Not sure what's going on with the guernseys, the blue used to be the same as the shorts, a mid blue, not dark blue like the Crows. :evil:

Actually those shorts are a shocking girlie colour. :shock:
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Re: STATE OF ORIGIN FOOTBALL SANFL V VIC ????

Postby fester69 » Fri May 30, 2008 5:48 pm

Where does it say comp versus comp? All I see is Sa versus Vic?
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Re: STATE OF ORIGIN FOOTBALL SANFL V VIC ????

Postby Mickyj » Fri May 30, 2008 5:59 pm

fester69 wrote:Where does it say comp versus comp? All I see is Sa versus Vic?

But Fester is doesn't say State of Origin either.
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Re: state game SOUTH AUSTRALIA v victoria

Postby Wedgie » Fri May 30, 2008 7:00 pm

Imagine if this game was at Norwood Oval as originally planned and was tonight.
They'd get at least 3k more than they'd get tomorrow.
From the 2 game they've moved to Adelaide Oval this year they've probably had a total of $5k less go to the 2 games in total.
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Re: state game SOUTH AUSTRALIA v victoria

Postby Mickyj » Fri May 30, 2008 7:41 pm

Wedgie wrote:Imagine if this game was at Norwood Oval as originally planned and was tonight.
They'd get at least 3k more than they'd get tomorrow.
From the 2 game they've moved to Adelaide Oval this year they've probably had a total of $5k less go to the 2 games in total.


The crows are playing tonight so I would doubt that wedgie .I could have had two days fishing instead of one mind you so i would have been happy.
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