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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby Matt the Panther » Thu May 29, 2008 7:26 pm

Channel 9:

Confirmed that Clay Sampson's been offered the coaching position.

Cahill was offered a motivational role, but declined.
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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby JAS » Thu May 29, 2008 7:31 pm

A discussion between Dave Flanagan and Cornsey (was more of a dispute with KG :roll: ) about Jack's departure has been put up on the 5aa site....it's at the upper righthand side...click on the picture.

http://www.fiveaa.com.au/site/home.aspx

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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby Dutchy » Thu May 29, 2008 7:49 pm

was interesting interview..Dave was very composed and spoke well until asked about the players and how they felt etc...then he stumbled a few times.....Hmmm :-k :-k :-k
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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby locky801 » Thu May 29, 2008 8:03 pm

Great interview, just hope the South supporters get the truthful answers that Dave said they would, strange however he would not elaborate any further, glad to see that the SAFC is not in a mess and moving on. :roll: :roll: :roll: Time will tell no doubt, wish Clay SAMPSON well as coach, was a great player for the club and deserves to do well :D
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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby OCT » Thu May 29, 2008 8:12 pm

was interesting interview..Dave was very composed and spoke well until asked about the players and how they felt etc...then he stumbled a few times.

I dont reckon he did stumble here Dutchy. It was interesting that he did not answer the question as to whay Cahill left. Also interesting upfront he said it was a mutual decision . I loved the passion he showed for the SAFC. He really stuck it up KG about his comments that south are a joke . He claims that South are in the best position they have been for 10 years. And he may have a point to be honest however unfortunately it is all off field. EG Lights , excellent facilities.

I must say this , the more I think about it maybe the board aren't as guilty as we think. They certainly are not innocent cause they employed him , but questions must be asked as to Cahills motives ( some well documented) and his behaviour.

I really enjoyed listening to the interview cos he rattled "Kenny" big time and he didnt like it. Better than the usual suck fest that you hear.

Congratulations Dave Flannigan you conducted yourself very well and passionately got behind your club. Others would just answer " poltically " correct .
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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby Squawk » Thu May 29, 2008 8:36 pm

Flanagan did do well but as others have also alluded, not many answers were forthcoming:

1. First, he started by acknowledging Jack's contribution was great. If so, why is his departure a "mutual decision"?
2. South members will eventually get the answers - but why not now?

The Board say they are doing a great job, but are they? I certainly don't know one way or the other but it's a bit of a case of "two sides to every story" -
a. Board and Members (both have said their bit)
b. Board and Coach (yet to be revealed)

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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby OCT » Thu May 29, 2008 8:39 pm

To be fair I don't think he said the board were doing agreat job , I dont think he referenced them ( ???) The rest of your points are valid mate and I agree. 2 sides to every story. But I sense Cahill is a cunning bugger ???? ( No Mercy any thoughts ?)

Not sure about a ripple or whirlpool , but Tidal Wave yes !
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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby saintal » Thu May 29, 2008 8:42 pm

Interesting interview as everybody said, but we got bugger all out of Dave really. Which was to be expected 8)

The more I think about all this the more I question Cahill's integrity. It would be good to get the facts, but we all know that wont ever happen.
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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby Sojourner » Thu May 29, 2008 8:55 pm

What needs to happen is for Jack Cahill to step up to the plate and give an interview on 5AA and give his side of things which may be more telling.

I enjoyed listening to Dave Flanagan and connected with him with his passion for the club. His attitude in that regard may be one of the foundation stones that rebuilds the club which is something that we need a lot more of at South!

I am still very much dissapointed with the result though of Cahill leaving, I suspect that there is so much more to it, yet its a likely result that we wont ever know those details.

Putting Clay Sampson in as coach is a concern to me for several reasons, I would like to know why he was chosen over Taylor who clearly is a more experienced SANFL coach. If Taylor wasnt chosen because he did not have the passion for South being a Norwood man, why was he then chosen to coach in any capacity at the club at the first place?

The other thing is how much imput will Sampson have into the actual coaching of the club? Will he be left alone to do the job or will individuals in the club go for three in a row and treat him in the same manner as Robert Pyman and Jack Cahill dictate to him how the side is to be coached?
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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby OCT » Thu May 29, 2008 9:09 pm

People assume Taylor wants the job , maybe he does not want to coach again. Sampson is no surprise , when Cahill came on board he said it was for 2 years and publicly declared Clay Sampson would be groomed for the senior coach.
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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby NO-MERCY » Thu May 29, 2008 9:26 pm

OCT wrote:To be fair I don't think he said the board were doing agreat job , I dont think he referenced them ( ???) The rest of your points are valid mate and I agree. 2 sides to every story. But I sense Cahill is a cunning bugger ???? ( No Mercy any thoughts ?)

Not sure about a ripple or whirlpool , but Tidal Wave yes !


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I think the club are being careful their not his next victims in the courts!
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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby Pseudo » Thu May 29, 2008 9:29 pm

OCT wrote:I dont reckon he did stumble here Dutchy. It was interesting that he did not answer the question as to whay Cahill left. Also interesting upfront he said it was a mutual decision . I loved the passion he showed for the SAFC. He really stuck it up KG about his comments that south are a joke . He claims that South are in the best position they have been for 10 years. And he may have a point to be honest however unfortunately it is all off field. EG Lights , excellent facilities.


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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby Sponge Bob » Thu May 29, 2008 9:49 pm

Squawk wrote:Flanagan did do well but as others have also alluded, not many answers were forthcoming:

1. First, he started by acknowledging Jack's contribution was great. If so, why is his departure a "mutual decision"?
2. South members will eventually get the answers - but why not now?

The Board say they are doing a great job, but are they? I certainly don't know one way or the other but it's a bit of a case of "two sides to every story" -
a. Board and Members (both have said their bit)
b. Board and Coach (yet to be revealed)

The best thing that can happen is for this to be a ripple in the season and not a whirlpool. Time will tell.



A lot of people that are in the inner sanctum are commenting that Jack may " be losing his marbles". Very forgetful on game days, not sure what's happening with a lot of things. Sad really!
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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby Dutchy » Thu May 29, 2008 10:10 pm

OCT wrote:was interesting interview..Dave was very composed and spoke well until asked about the players and how they felt etc...then he stumbled a few times.

I dont reckon he did stumble here Dutchy. It was interesting that he did not answer the question as to whay Cahill left. Also interesting upfront he said it was a mutual decision . I loved the passion he showed for the SAFC. He really stuck it up KG about his comments that south are a joke . He claims that South are in the best position they have been for 10 years. And he may have a point to be honest however unfortunately it is all off field. EG Lights , excellent facilities.

I must say this , the more I think about it maybe the board aren't as guilty as we think. They certainly are not innocent cause they employed him , but questions must be asked as to Cahills motives ( some well documented) and his behaviour.

I really enjoyed listening to the interview cos he rattled "Kenny" big time and he didnt like it. Better than the usual suck fest that you hear.

Congratulations Dave Flannigan you conducted yourself very well and passionately got behind your club. Others would just answer " poltically " correct .


I just listened to the interview again and my take -

> He said the club was stable :shock:
> 8 mins in he stumbles when saying "I can assure you the players are 100% beh...err....have 100% admiration for the man" this is after speaking very fluently for the whole interview, have another listen to it....
> I admire his leadership in trying to move the club forward form here but there needs to be some answers to their fans otherwise they may lose them also...
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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby OCT » Thu May 29, 2008 10:15 pm

Intersting . You have heard it twice , I only heard it once so I think you have obviously picked something up there. The saga continues.
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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby Dutchy » Thu May 29, 2008 10:16 pm

OCT wrote:Intersting . You have heard it twice , I only heard it once so I think you have obviously picked something up there. The saga continues.


listen again, its on the AA website, link on top of this page, scroll straight to teh 8 min mark and tell me if you hear teh hesitation
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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby Matt the Panther » Thu May 29, 2008 10:22 pm

If the board is so concerned about innuendo and rumours in the media and amongst the supporters, be honest and transparent about what is going on.
Hold a press conference or put out a comprehensive statement, instead of this two sentence crap that gives us nothing.
The longer this takes, the longer the shit is going to continue to be slung, and the worse the board and SAFC in general is going to come out of it at the end.
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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby spell_check » Thu May 29, 2008 10:25 pm

Matt the Panther wrote:If the board is so concerned about innuendo and rumours in the media and amongst the supporters, be honest and transparent about what is going on.
Hold a press conference or put out a comprehensive statement, instead of this two sentence crap that gives us nothing.
The longer this takes, the longer the s***t is going to continue to be slung, and the worse the board and SAFC in general is going to come out of it at the end.


2nd that. So often little is known about these situations, why not tell all about it instead of 1000 tales be made up from it.
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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby Hondo » Thu May 29, 2008 10:34 pm

spell_check wrote:2nd that. So often little is known about these situations, why not tell all about it instead of 1000 tales be made up from it.


It's like a marriage break up - do outsiders need to hear about how he did that, she said this, he said that, she threw this on the front lawn ..... he's a c**t, she's a s**t, etc, etc

Or do you just say publicly "we thought it was time we both separated and move on with our lives"?

I do take your point, but it does depend on what "telling all" does for anyone involved other than satisfying people's need to know gossip. So there's a point to which I agree with you, but I don't believe it's necessary for every item of dirty laundry to go on the line.

I think there's a point where, out of respect for people's reputations, you just draw a line in the sand and move on. Sh*t happens, as Ben Cousins says .... :wink:

The Club and it's supporters are better off focusing on what happens from here IMO.
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Re: Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

Postby OCT » Thu May 29, 2008 10:43 pm

Or do you just say publicly "we thought it was time we both separated and move on with our lives

Yeah I see your point but it is a bit different than a marriage , although I see your anology.

The difference is they have only played 8 games . If it was your wife ( geez I hope you have not been through a breakup , seriously cos this wont go down well but I hope you see my point) wouldn't you want to know why after 8 weeks of marriage ? I reckon the members have a right to know. If he had finished a year and they were going really bad thats different , but 8 weeks........ ?
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