MOST OVER RATED an UNDER RATED players in the AFL?

[Felch]

A large percentage of people consider Burton to be over-rated, which actually means they dont rate him, which in turn would mean he could be in fact under-rated !!!

[Blue Boy]

Over - rated
Brett Burton
Shannon Grant
Chad Cornes
Quinton Lynch
Chad Fletcher
Stuart Dew
Richard Tambling

Under - rated
Jarad McVeigh
David Mundy
Osborne from the Hawks
Andrew Carrazzo
Nathan Foley
Hamish McIntosh

LMAO as when has Tambling ever been rated !!!

[Baron Greenback]

As a crows supporter i think its laughable to see BUrton named as over rated.... he never even got mentioned till this year when he has been a star for us up forward... contested marks and kicking straight.

and Macca.... what a port moron to say a 2 time norm smith medalist

Nah. That's a load of crap.
I've heard Crows supporters go on about how supposedly good the 'Bird Man' for bloody years.
While I will grant that this has been his best year, I would much rather have Jason Torney or Matthew Bode in my side than that dud.

[Felch]

As a crows supporter i think its laughable to see BUrton named as over rated.... he never even got mentioned till this year when he has been a star for us up forward... contested marks and kicking straight.

and Macca.... what a port moron to say a 2 time norm smith medalist

Nah. That's a load of crap.
I've heard Crows supporters go on about how supposedly good the 'Bird Man' for bloody years.
While I will grant that this has been his best year, I would much rather have Jason Torney or Matthew Bode in my side than that dud.

I can tell you that quite a few of the 'supporters' who sit near me at Crows games dont rate him. In fact, there is one guy who sits 2 rows in front of me who only goes to the games to bag Burton. He comes to the games in Crows hat and shirt, but the only sounds he makes is when Burton stuffs up. He doesnt even clap goals !!! Unfortunately blokes like him are what gives Adelaide supporters a bad name!

For the record, i think Brett is a good player, but i always feel that he never quite reached the level he had promised early in his career.

[the joker]

Most over rated
Nick Maxwell
Brock McLean
Stephen Milne
Brent Moloney
David Hille
Nathan Eagleton
Dane Swan (lot of possies but to many clangers)
St Kilda Football Club – Dal Santo, Riewoldt, Koschitzke, Hayes, Ball, Gram, Maguire and no premierships

Most underated
Robert shirley (people on here give him shit but arguably the best player (JUDD) in the comp has 94 career brownlow votes before this year and yet has never poled one against the crows so Judd is rob shirleys bunny
Brian Straugnn (still cant get a game)
Adam selwood
Scott stevens
Robert Campbell
Dale Morris
Drew Petrie
Brent Reilly (people always say the crow should have took dal santo but i am happy with radar)

[OldCooper]

Under-rated:
Carrazzo (how ever you spell it) is easily the most underrated player in the comp at the moment.
Cassisi
McPhee (bombers)
Dal Santo

Over-Rated:
Milne
Fev
Hawkins (cats)
Johncock
Leon Davis

[Dutchy]

Over - rated
Shannon Grant

A Norm Smith Medalist over rated? what more would you like him to do than be BOG in a GF?

[The Real Number 3]

He is too selfish, can hardly kick a drop punt... This is an opinion thread and that is my opinion. Like it or loathe it. Glad Sydney traded him

[Dutchy]

He is too selfish, can hardly kick a drop punt... This is an opinion thread and that is my opinion. Like it or loathe it. Glad Sydney traded him

fine to have an opinion but also ntohing wrong with challenging it....as for the trade how is Schwass playing these days?

[The Real Number 3]

Haha he was mostly there to provide mentoring....

[the joker]

ARTICLE FROM THE HERALD SUN EARLIER THIS YEAR

The following is a list of the top 30 most overrated players in the AFL. Unlike Mike Sheahans top 50 players, this list has a criterion.

The criteria is each nominated player must have been listed a minimum of 3 seasons, they must be rated by their club or supporters and they must be considered part of their clubs best 22.

The list has been composed by Windy Hill Whispers after many AFL fans were surveyed over rounds three and four. If you agree or disagree have your say on who you would exclude or include below:

1. B. Johnson (Western Bulldogs) – Known as the smiling assassin yet the most selfish player to play. Rarely passes and 9 times out of 10 will try and kick the miracle goal. He is far from smiling when he consistently spits the dummy at umpires if not paid soft free kicks.

2. C. Bolton (Sydney) – Mike Sheahan’s love child, rated so high by many, especially Mike, but how hard is it to stop a player when you have the best defensive midfield in the competition ensuring the delivery to your opponent is woeful. Would not get a game in most teams.

3. D. Wells (North Melbourne) – Has been talked about for so long yet will never live up to all the expectations whilst he is still scared of his own shadow.

4. J. Fraser (Collingwood) – Poor Josh, he looks old slow and run down. Has never been a match winner yet now wears the vice captain title. Easily the worst number one draft pick ever.

5. R. Tambling (Richmond) – Actually not so sure this bloke is even rated anymore. Couldn’t find the footy in Rebel Sport, so how it can be expected on the MCG escapes me.

6. A. Carrazzo (Carlton) – Even Carlton supporters laughed when he was named best and fairest. Will never be tagged as opposition coaches look at him as an asset to their team the way he disposes the ball.

7. L. Hodge (Hawthorn) – Unlucky not to be number one. Hates being tagged or winning the hard ball. As soon as he goes forward the opposition has had a win because he will not kick set shots at goal.

8. C. Tarrant (Fremantle) – This bloke could kick 100 one day, I think that’s what I heard early in his career. Unfortunately these days he would be lucky to get 100 kicks in a season.

9. B. Hall (Sydney) – Big bad bustling drop kick. Cannot remember him ever taking a contested mark, in fact recall several chest marks bouncing off his chest.

10. K. Johnson (Richmond) – Ok so he had a good game against Fremantle, but prior to that took the mantle for being the worst captain in the competition after Vandenburg retired from Hawthorn last season.

11. D. Fletcher (Essendon) – Supposedly one of the best full back in the comp, but hasn’t played on a full forward for 4 years.

12. S. West (Western Bulldogs) – Cherry picker that only knows how to handball backwards.

13. P. Everitt (Sydney) – The Swans needed a ruckmen in 2007, after Spider arrived they slipped down the ladder.

14. T. Boyle (Hawthorn) – With Franklin and Roughead in the side Boyle gets tagged by little league players yet still can not take a contested mark.

15. R. Walls (the Age and C10) – Not a player but still worthy for the top 15. The master of stating the obvious is still bitter about not getting a run with Essendon. Embarrasses himself each week with unprofessional commentating.

16. C. Bruce (Melbourne) – Was apparently going to win a brownlow once.

17. B. Rutten (Adelaide) – With 13 other defenders helping him out, he doesn’t do enough.

18. H. Scotland (Carlton) – One clubs reject is another clubs best player.

19. D. Swan (Collingwood) – 30 turnovers a game, see Carrazzo

20. N. Stevens (Carlton) – Or is it ‘mini Lance’?

21. D. Milburn (Geelong) – Has he ever had an opponent?

22. D. Merrett (Brisbane) – Comical, he is not a footballer and why has he always got dirt on his face?

23. A Monfries (Essendon) – Supposedly the next Simon Black.

24. A. Simpson (North Melbourne) – Open your eyes when you kick!

25. D. Wirrpanda (West Coast) – Is he still playing?

26. J. Lewis (Hawthorn) – Overrated player, underrated thug.

27. B. Stanton (Essendon) – Bit early to wear number five surely?

28. N. Eagleton (Western Bulldogs) – Number 1 cherry picker in the AFL.

29. A. Embley (West Coast) – Hidden behind Cousins, Kerr, Judd and Cox too long.

30. D. Headland (Fremantle) – Genuine hack.

31. St Kilda Football Club – Dal Santo, Riewoldt, Koschitzke, Hayes, Ball, Gram, Maguire and no premierships.

32. K Bartlett (SEN commentator) – Number one bitter man in the AFL, do not dare have a different opinion to him or prove him wrong, he thinks he walks on water, shame nobody likes him.

So we ended up with 32, including Walls and Bartlett who are not players, some would argue never were, but just had to be included.

[the wonder elephant]

Most Over Rated - Andrew Mcleod

Most Under Rated - Shaun Burgoyne

i would expect this idiotic comment to come from you hafey 2 normsmiths and still u think he is over rated ?

[the joker]

Most Over Rated - Andrew Mcleod

Most Under Rated - Shaun Burgoyne

Burgoyne UNDER RATED ???? wasent he favourate for the brownlow at the start of last year and alot of people said he was better than judd including walls but he would have changed his mind now judd is a blue.

[spell_check]

The problem with over rating players is that how much a player is talked about, may not exactly be what that player is capable of doing. Where did these people who rate certain players base their expectations on (and from)?

I think because of his routine spekky every week in 1999, this gave Burton a higher rating. And perhaps those that saw him the year before in the SANFL knew that he was capable of winning the mark of the year each week. But once clubs were aware of his marking, he did not take as many the following year. But I think over the past couple of years he has shown he is not a one trick pony.

Even peoples opinions regarding overrated players is skewed by the commentators. Jason Dunstall pumped up Porplyzia's tyres big time a couple of weeks ago. Certainly he is a valuable asset in the side, but because people hear Dunstall credit him so often during a match, all of a sudden more expectation is thrust upon a player.

[saintal]

A few that spring to mind:

Under- Michael Osborne, Jed Adcock, Chris Newman, Roger Hayden
Over- Jason Gram, Josh fraser, Dustin Fletcher

[smac]

My opinion of Fletcher (chiming in now because he's been mentioned a couple of times at least) is that he is riding on past form. He was an outstanding footballer at his best but that is quite a way behind him. Not overrated as such, just not as good as he once was.

[MatteeG]

A few that spring to mind:

Under- Michael Osborne, Jed Adcock, Chris Newman, Roger Hayden
Over- Jason Gram, Josh fraser, Dustin Fletcher

Well played Saintal- agree with all of them.

[carey18]

I like the way anyone who puts on a crows or port jumper are champions!

[Rik E Boy]

ARTICLE FROM THE HERALD SUN EARLIER THIS YEAR

The following is a list of the top 30 most overrated players in the AFL. Unlike Mike Sheahans top 50 players, this list has a criterion.

The criteria is each nominated player must have been listed a minimum of 3 seasons, they must be rated by their club or supporters and they must be considered part of their clubs best 22.

The list has been composed by Windy Hill Whispers after many AFL fans were surveyed over rounds three and four. If you agree or disagree have your say on who you would exclude or include below:

1. B. Johnson (Western Bulldogs) – Known as the smiling assassin yet the most selfish player to play. Rarely passes and 9 times out of 10 will try and kick the miracle goal. He is far from smiling when he consistently spits the dummy at umpires if not paid soft free kicks.

2. C. Bolton (Sydney) – Mike Sheahan’s love child, rated so high by many, especially Mike, but how hard is it to stop a player when you have the best defensive midfield in the competition ensuring the delivery to your opponent is woeful. Would not get a game in most teams.

3. D. Wells (North Melbourne) – Has been talked about for so long yet will never live up to all the expectations whilst he is still scared of his own shadow.

4. J. Fraser (Collingwood) – Poor Josh, he looks old slow and run down. Has never been a match winner yet now wears the vice captain title. Easily the worst number one draft pick ever.

5. R. Tambling (Richmond) – Actually not so sure this bloke is even rated anymore. Couldn’t find the footy in Rebel Sport, so how it can be expected on the MCG escapes me.

6. A. Carrazzo (Carlton) – Even Carlton supporters laughed when he was named best and fairest. Will never be tagged as opposition coaches look at him as an asset to their team the way he disposes the ball.

7. L. Hodge (Hawthorn) – Unlucky not to be number one. Hates being tagged or winning the hard ball. As soon as he goes forward the opposition has had a win because he will not kick set shots at goal.

8. C. Tarrant (Fremantle) – This bloke could kick 100 one day, I think that’s what I heard early in his career. Unfortunately these days he would be lucky to get 100 kicks in a season.

9. B. Hall (Sydney) – Big bad bustling drop kick. Cannot remember him ever taking a contested mark, in fact recall several chest marks bouncing off his chest.

10. K. Johnson (Richmond) – Ok so he had a good game against Fremantle, but prior to that took the mantle for being the worst captain in the competition after Vandenburg retired from Hawthorn last season.

11. D. Fletcher (Essendon) – Supposedly one of the best full back in the comp, but hasn’t played on a full forward for 4 years.

12. S. West (Western Bulldogs) – Cherry picker that only knows how to handball backwards.

13. P. Everitt (Sydney) – The Swans needed a ruckmen in 2007, after Spider arrived they slipped down the ladder.

14. T. Boyle (Hawthorn) – With Franklin and Roughead in the side Boyle gets tagged by little league players yet still can not take a contested mark.

15. R. Walls (the Age and C10) – Not a player but still worthy for the top 15. The master of stating the obvious is still bitter about not getting a run with Essendon. Embarrasses himself each week with unprofessional commentating.

16. C. Bruce (Melbourne) – Was apparently going to win a brownlow once.

17. B. Rutten (Adelaide) – With 13 other defenders helping him out, he doesn’t do enough.

18. H. Scotland (Carlton) – One clubs reject is another clubs best player.

19. D. Swan (Collingwood) – 30 turnovers a game, see Carrazzo

20. N. Stevens (Carlton) – Or is it ‘mini Lance’?

21. D. Milburn (Geelong) – Has he ever had an opponent?

22. D. Merrett (Brisbane) – Comical, he is not a footballer and why has he always got dirt on his face?

23. A Monfries (Essendon) – Supposedly the next Simon Black.

24. A. Simpson (North Melbourne) – Open your eyes when you kick!

25. D. Wirrpanda (West Coast) – Is he still playing?

26. J. Lewis (Hawthorn) – Overrated player, underrated thug.

27. B. Stanton (Essendon) – Bit early to wear number five surely?

28. N. Eagleton (Western Bulldogs) – Number 1 cherry picker in the AFL.

29. A. Embley (West Coast) – Hidden behind Cousins, Kerr, Judd and Cox too long.

30. D. Headland (Fremantle) – Genuine hack.

31. St Kilda Football Club – Dal Santo, Riewoldt, Koschitzke, Hayes, Ball, Gram, Maguire and no premierships.

32. K Bartlett (SEN commentator) – Number one bitter man in the AFL, do not dare have a different opinion to him or prove him wrong, he thinks he walks on water, shame nobody likes him.

So we ended up with 32, including Walls and Bartlett who are not players, some would argue never were, but just had to be included.

The first time I saw this was on Big Footy and that is exactly where it belongs as it is a load of steaming carp. You could devote a separate board to all the things that are wrong with this.

regards,

REB

[Rik E Boy]

Under-rated:
Carrazzo (how ever you spell it) is easily the most underrated player in the comp at the moment.
Cassisi
McPhee (bombers)
Dal Santo

Over-Rated:
Milne
Fev
Hawkins (cats)
Johncock
Leon Davis

Sorry coop but Carazzo just aint that great and Nick Dal Santo is an overrated show pony possession scab. But you got Hawkins right though. People do get over excited by young Tom but I am more than happy with his development so far. The 'next Tony Lockett' from Pagan was one he probably could have done without. It's still all about potential in regards to the Tomahawk.

regards,

REB