Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

[smithy]

Get someone with a real connection to the area saintal, someone willing to promote the club to the SFL and GSFL properly so the better players in that comp REALLY want to come out and play for south.

The last person who really gave the area a sense of wanting the panthers to win was John Reid.

[Punk Rooster]

Sampson and Torney should NOT even be considered as replacement for Cahill.

Agree with you on this.

Not sure how many options are open to the club though

why wouldn't those 2 names be considered?
Any reason in particular?

Also, Saintal, you really do have it rough- barracking for South and St Kilda...

[TigerBoss]

I keep coming back to Darren Trevena...he knows all the ins and outs of the southern leagues and demographic and has genuine experience behind him with coaching and developing men and boys.

Valvoline (you know what I mean).

[JK]

Time will reveal all no doubt however I really feel for the South supporters, yes I know we all have a go and say that there is only a handful of them but we know there is more than that. How many more years do these totally faithful supporters have to put up with all the crap that they get served up by this footy club, everytime there appears to be some light at the end of that very very long dark tunnel along comes another controversy. How these people remain loyal to their club is beyond me, they as a group deserve better, lets hope for their sake all the wrongs start to disappear and there is a brighter future for the SAFC and to give something for their hard done by supporters to cheer about


It is a pity that their footy club does not have the hard resolve these supporters do

We remain loyal because if we didn't follow South we wouldn't follow SANFL......

Spot on what it's all about it mate, very well said.

[Sojourner]

Ryan Fitzgerald has just had plenty to say on 5AA,

His main points were,

1, Jack did not have the passion required for the club.

2, Fitzy didnt like the fact that Jason Torney came from being coached under Neil Craig to Cahill with coaching methods that were backward and not in the ball park of what Craig was doing.

3, Fitzy felt that Cahill coached in an old fashioned style of "kicking long and straight" and when a coach like Mark Mickan got a five goal lead on him Cahill was unable to produce a second plan to get out of it.

4. Fitzy feels that the club has to appoint someone like Torney or Sampson in order to get someone with the right passion and modern experience for the club to be successfull.

KG pressed him on how much of this was comming from the playing group and he would not answer.

[TigerBoss]

Reason 1: South don't need an inexperienced coach to take the reigns, they need someone who has coached before and is a good coach.

Reason 2: Both Torney AND Sampson are TOO close to the playing group. The same criticism applies to Harvey at Freo and Lyon at the Saints...the coaches are not hard enough on their players when they need to be, because they're mates, as well as coach/player.

Reason 3: Surely Torney should concentrate primarily on being a player, given the fact that's what he still is. Sampson and Torney could still be involved as advisors or assistants, but not as head coaches.

Next question...

[Swooper16]

Ryan Fitzgerald has just had plenty to say on 5AA,

His main points were,

1, Jack did not have the passion required for the club.

2, Fitzy didnt like the fact that Jason Torney came from being coached under Neil Craig to Cahill with coaching methods that were backward and not in the ball park of what Craig was doing.

3, Fitzy felt that Cahill coached in an old fashioned style of "kicking long and straight" and when a coach like Mark Mickan got a five goal lead on him Cahill was unable to produce a second plan to get out of it.

4. Fitzy feels that the club has to appoint someone like Torney or Sampson in order to get someone with the right passion and modern experience for the club to be successfull.

KG pressed him on how much of this was comming from the playing group and he would not answer.

I just hope Jack Cahill is given the same airtime to provide his views on Friday night games....

(yes i know Fitzy is a panther thru & thru just wanted to point out what a horrible show it really is)

[Big Phil]

Reason 1: South don't need an inexperienced coach to take the reigns, they need someone who has coached before and is a good coach.

Reason 2: Both Torney AND Sampson are TOO close to the playing group. The same criticism applies to Harvey at Freo and Lyon at the Saints...the coaches are not hard enough on their players when they need to be, because they're mates, as well as coach/player.

Reason 3: Surely Torney should concentrate primarily on being a player, given the fact that's what he still is. Sampson and Torney could still be involved as advisors or assistants, but not as head coaches.

Next question...

Ex Carlton player David Teague is bringing back into fashion the old style "player/coach"...

He's doing a pretty good job with the Northern Bullants in the VFL and has the experienced assistance of Matthew Lappin...

I could see it working for South with Torney playing coach and Clay Sampson his assistant...

What do South supporters REALLY think of this suggestion, do they think it would work ???

Big Phil...

[Matt the Panther]

I can't get FiveAA here at work - radio won't pick it up, and website is blocked - does anyone know whether they podcast their gear on the website?
Would be interested to hear what he had to say.

[MagareyLegend]

David Tiller current South U17s coach is the man

[Punk Rooster]

Reason 1: South don't need an inexperienced coach to take the reigns, they need someone who has coached before and is a good coach.

Let's face it- getting an experienced coach means getting a recycled one.
Bomber Thompson hadn't coached prior to taking on the Cats...
It's about getting the right person for the job.
Laird, Jarman, Fuller & MacGowan were all rookies when hired.

Reason 2: Both Torney AND Sampson are TOO close to the playing group. The same criticism applies to Harvey at Freo and Lyon at the Saints...the coaches are not hard enough on their players when they need to be, because they're mates, as well as coach/player.

Hence they may be the best people for the job.
They know where the playing group is at, who's committed & who isn't.
Putting ownership of the club back onto the players may be enough to ignite some passion.
Also, they'd be aware that if they didn;t perform, there was no-one to blame but themselves.

Reason 3: Surely Torney should concentrate primarily on being a player, given the fact that's what he still is. Sampson and Torney could still be involved as advisors or assistants, but not as head coaches.

Next question...

There is no reason why Torney could not take on the job & still play.
He could have Sampson as his assistant, or be Sampson's assistant.
These guys are most definately aware of what's happening inside the playing group, & will be able to use that to advantage- an advantage no other coach has had at South.
More imortantly, one would assume they have the respect of the playing group.

The days of Kerley, Cahill & Hafey etc are gone.
Screaming abuse at players is the surest way to lose them- in todays game, it's all about man & player management. Get through to the player, by explaining what's required, & how it needs to be done- not roasting them in front of the playing group for not understanding their role, which was never explained to them in the first place.
Flogging players on the track is dead- during a season, the time comes to lighten up & enjoy for a bit, just to break the year up.

South do need a new age coach, & a club man would be a big bonus- provided he's got the right goals & interests at heart.

[Adelaide Hawk]

3, Fitzy felt that Cahill coached in an old fashioned style of "kicking long and straight"

Hmmm .... seemed to work in the first 3 rounds.

[spell_check]

Beat the Eagles?

I did say that South was my main concern until the result of the Qualifying Final. I think the players found that little bit extra after the 2nd Semi, that may not have happened if we won that match and South made it into the GF.

[Dog_ger]

An SANFL Merger feels close...?

[Punk Rooster]

An SANFL Merger feels close...?

No- South are financially strong

[PhilH]

Are they Punk Rooster ???

[Matt the Panther]

According to a statement from Dave Flanaghan on Channel 10 news:
Cahill has resigned as coach, but is considering continuing a new role which will be announced tomorrow.

[heater31]

According to a statement from Dave Flanaghan on Channel 10 news:
Cahill has resigned as coach, but is considering continuing a new role which will be announced tomorrow.

WTF is going on at Arctic Park

[Matt the Panther]

Same thing is now on the SAFC site:

"The South Adelaide Football Club would like to inform its members and supporters that John Cahill has stepped down from his role as coach of the club. The club is currently in discussions with him about a possible future role with the club which will be announced tomorrow."

[Big Phil]

Just watching 10 news now, they have a story on Jack leaving the Panthers...

They said that despite the fact HE HAS stepped down as coach, he might not be actually leaving the club. The board will be in discussion tomorrow morning to look at the possibility of him staying on in a mentoring role or some kind of off field role ???

The report said he was disgruntled with the board interferring hence the reason for him leaving so why the hell would he want to work for the board in some off field role ??? Who knows what's really going on with the thought processes of some of the borad members at Noarlunga ???

They said that Sampson, Taylor or Torney would take over the reigns to be South's 4th League coach in 12 months !!??

Big Phil...