When.....................Tim?

[RustyCage]

Always good to see a thread about sacking coaches coming from a Bays fan...

10,000 spoons.

Remind me again...

Which club has had the most coaches in the last 5 or so years?

Port or the Bays?

Port AND the Bays actually. Do some research before you post...

Glenelg
D Noble (2003-04)
P Simmons (2005)
T Burgess (2005)
Mark Mickan (2006-Current)

Port
Stephen Williams (1997-2003)
Matthew Knights (2004)
John Cahill (2005)
Tim Ginever (2006-current)

But look at this...

K Hodgeman (1991-1992)
Mark Williams (1993-1994)
T Symonds (1995-1996)
W Stringer (1997)
Tony McGuinness (1998-2000)
B Honor (2001-2002)

And out of those Fatal, 1 was a dud, 1 retired after giving many great years of service after taking over half way through 1996, 1 is a legend who came back for one season only to help out, and the other is still there. Hardly a coaches graveyard at Port.

[RustyCage]

You got to be joking Dog, where did they finish last year, Port that is?
Hasn't done any better than Knights, yet has had better personnel & more time.

Knights had a terrible (or non-existent) game plan. As far as I'm concerned he was lucky to last the year. He was always far too slow to make changes. He let a game slip against Sturt at Adelaide Oval with his complete apathy. And he came directly from a club with a losing culture with no coaching experience.

Tim has no experience either, but he is a winner, and at least we are trying to play the right sort of stuff. The issue is the execution of basic skills. We need proper skills coaches and concentration on the basics like kicking at goal and accurate disposal.

Exactly Fatal, Knights was a dud at Alberton. His game plan was pathetic, very slow, chip sideways, short kick, slow running Richmond style of game. He shouldn't have lasted as long at the club as he did. The only good thing that happened during his time was the arrival of Dipper and Elstone.

With Timmy G, he deserves time. His actual coaching I cant really fault, I like our style of play, and while initially he seemed a little reactive with his coaching moves, he has improved a lot there. He hasn't had half the quality of players that many Port coaches past have had.

Apart from our kicking at goal on the weekend, we were very good, dominating the general play for the majority of the match, but couldn't hurt South on the scoreboard, which when they had the run of play, they did.

Mark my words people, PORT ADELAIDE WILL MAKE THE FINALS THIS YEAR

Ok consider them marked. Should they be in hiding now?

Not yet, they can stay out for a couple more weeks before I may have to send them on an extended holiday

[NO-MERCY]

Thats laughable

[RustyCage]

Knights didn't deserve the chance to show improvement. If you agree with anything to do with Knights game plan and coaching in his time at Port, you obviously didnt see any Port games, haven't spoken to anyone who went to every game in his time at the club.

Best thing he did was to resign after 1 year of his 2 year contract? YAY! Finally we agree with something!

Seriously, talk to any Port supporter you want. No one looks back at Knights time at Alberton with any degree of fondness.

NM, you have to be Knights love child or something.

[RustyCage]

Thats laughable

Nice edit there NM!!!

[Apachebulldog]

Timmy ( Smiley ) what a top bloke but sadly he has taken over a moribund club !!!!

The real Port Adelaide Magpies were killed off in 1996/1997 and most of their so called supporters hopped on the bandwagon to chase glory with this pseudo outfit called the Power shame on ya all !!!!!!!!!!!

How do i know cos i did have friends who were Maggie supporters and we did prior to 1997, go to local footy games together but alas it is now all a faded memory.

So really back in 1997 the REAL PAFC should of been disbanded enabling an easy and painless morph into the POWER, and at the same time fixing this sham of a bye we have to put up with every round in local footy.

So do not shoot down the coach look at the administration back in the mid 90' who created this absolute shamble.

But who knows its only round two and my friend timmy could create a miracle and get them into the finals he has 20 weeks to turn it around .

U DOGGGGGGGGGSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pseudo]

The real Port Adelaide Magpies were killed off in 1996/1997 and most of their so called supporters hopped on the bandwagon to chase glory with this pseudo outfit called the Power shame on ya all

I tell you I've never worn a Power guernsey!

[bayman]

The real Port Adelaide Magpies were killed off in 1996/1997 and most of their so called supporters hopped on the bandwagon to chase glory with this pseudo outfit called the Power shame on ya all

I tell you I've never worn a Power guernsey!

& he never will

[bayman]

So really back in 1997 the REAL PAFC should of been disbanded enabling an easy and painless morph into the POWER, and at the same time fixing this sham of a bye we have to put up with every round in local footy.

!!

wasn't part of the agreement to have a port team still playing in the sanfl as the sanfl wanted it & i agree with that decision

as for the bye a lot of players like to nurse their sore spots & some of the recruits like to go home to catch up with family & friends on their week off

[Gravel]

My understanding is one of the tender questions for the second AFL licence was - Details of the offeror's proposal would need to state what effect a successful bid would have on its team to be fielded in the SANFL competition.
Port wanted a Port Adelaide team to remain in a 9 team SANFL and have joint memberships etc, whereas Norwood/Sturt bid would be represented by Norwood in the AFL and Sturt in an 8 team SANFL.
I don't know what the Cartel proposed ?
When Port won the bid most of the SANFL clubs wanted Port out of the SANFL and it be reduced to 8 teams, however the SANFL wanted Port in the SANFL competition but agreed to additional conditions to be placed on the Magpies.

[Pseudo]

[...]
I don't know what the Cartel proposed ?

IIRC the "cartel" bid did not address the criterion of remaining in the SANFL. Its plan was to elevate WWT wholly into the AFL; the other 4 cartel members would be aligned with it while the non-cartel members would be aligned with the Crows.

[Gravel]

The Port bid also had the SANFL clubs alligned to either Port or the Crows but rejected by the SANFL

[beenreal]

After so many failures, mainly against Port Adelaide, Central District became the SANFL powerhouse by copying us in the late 90's. And they did it built on the foundation of a massive "pokie palace" income.

When the PAFC , est. 1870 moved to the AFL, the SANFL demanded a Magpies entity remain in the comp to make it still worth something. The Power initially refused to create a new club, so the SANFL compromised and decreed that both clubs would share the records from 1870 to 1996.

Unlike Centrals (and some others), the Magpies have never had the above mentioned revenue stream, having to split all licensed club profits with the Power. And most important, Centrals' never had the guts ripped out of them by having to support an AFL entity. I'd bet that any lesser club, ie. all of them, would never have survived this scenario.

But don't you all worry, the Magpies will claw their way back to the top by doing things the Port Adelaide way, ie. better than all of them!

[am Bays]

Unlike Centrals (and some others), the Magpies have never had the above mentioned revenue stream, having to split all licensed club profits with the Power. And most important, Centrals' never had the guts ripped out of them by having to support an AFL entity. I'd bet that any lesser club, ie. all of them, would never have survived this scenario.

BWA HA HA HA HA.....oh dear stop it, you're killing me.....

I know of a club that had the guts ripped out of it over the summer of 1990-91 - coaching staff, support staff, players, sponsors, supporters and it has survived. And unlike the Magpies that had two years to prepare for it we had two months thanks to a Quisling/Judas club within the SANFL ranks circa 1990.

HAsn't been easy and we've been less than successful to satisfaction of the diehards that remain at Brighton Rd but the Glenelg Footy Club has survived and will thrive into the future

[tigersupporter]

Well said Tassie

[Mickyj]

Unlike Centrals (and some others), the Magpies have never had the above mentioned revenue stream, having to split all licensed club profits with the Power. And most important, Centrals' never had the guts ripped out of them by having to support an AFL entity. I'd bet that any lesser club, ie. all of them, would never have survived this scenario.

BWA HA HA HA HA.....oh dear stop it, you're killing me.....

I know of a club that had the guts ripped out of it over the summer of 1990-91 - coaching staff, support staff, players, sponsors, supporters and it has survived. And unlike the Magpies that had two years to prepare for it we had two months thanks to a Quisling/Judas club within the SANFL ranks circa 1990.




HAsn't been easy and we've been less than successful to satisfaction of the diehards that remain at Brighton Rd but the Glenelg Footy Club has survived....

Funny I agree with you TM .
But lets also look at certain SANFL clubs that since 1990-1991 (and before)have had their best up and coming juniors and some in their 20's ripped away to the AFL .And the number of these players could make up ONE FULL TEAM for more than one SANFL team.
Certainly that is a consideration in any AFL based arguement.
Why the sanfl left a port adelaide team in the sanfl after the power went in is beyond me .Dont tell me the SANFL needed them and dont tell me about port tradition .Because when port lose at home the magpie fans fight with the power fans .ONE club indeed.Don't believe me well I have seen it with my own EYES !!!

Every SANFL club has been affected by the AFL not just PORT.
And if the port fuddy duddies couldn't organise poker machines to make extra money BIG DEAL.You know what they say never give a sucker an even break .Claw your way up the ladder PORT the way some of the rest of the SANFL teams have Centrals being a prime example .

[Pseudo]

When the PAFC , est. 1870 moved to the AFL, the SANFL demanded a Magpies entity remain in the comp to make it still worth something. The Power initially refused to create a new club, so the SANFL compromised and decreed that both clubs would share the records from 1870 to 1996.

Now look into the mirror and say three times, "yes, I do believe in fairies!"

[smac]

After so many failures, mainly against Port Adelaide, Central District became the SANFL powerhouse by copying us in the late 90's. And they did it built on the foundation of a massive "pokie palace" income.

When the PAFC , est. 1870 moved to the AFL, the SANFL demanded a Magpies entity remain in the comp to make it still worth something. The Power initially refused to create a new club, so the SANFL compromised and decreed that both clubs would share the records from 1870 to 1996.

Unlike Centrals (and some others), the Magpies have never had the above mentioned revenue stream, having to split all licensed club profits with the Power. And most important, Centrals' never had the guts ripped out of them by having to support an AFL entity. I'd bet that any lesser club, ie. all of them, would never have survived this scenario.

But don't you all worry, the Magpies will claw their way back to the top by doing things the Port Adelaide way, ie. better than all of them!

Centrals gaming facility was a construction zone the night of the 2000 premiership party. Income was certainly still an issue at that stage - it was good management (and copying Ports blueprint) that got us there.

The income generated by the poker machines has helped sustain success, no doubt - the facilities for the players are outstanding and we have been able to 'fill the cap' without concern. But to say we got there with cash is folly.

[topsywaldron]

I know of a club that had the guts ripped out of it over the summer of 1990-91 - coaching staff, support staff, players, sponsors, supporters and it has survived.

Cry me an effing river. It's so typical of a Glenelg fan with their victim mentality to think the Crows only impacted on them.

[am Bays]

I know of a club that had the guts ripped out of it over the summer of 1990-91 - coaching staff, support staff, players, sponsors, supporters and it has survived.

Cry me an effing river. It's so typical of a Glenelg fan with their victim mentality to think the Crows only impacted on them.

Dry your tears big boy.....where oh where prey tell did I say it only affected us.....