GSFL Movements

[Dewkicker]

Hardly_super wrote:
CLUBS NOT CLEARING PLAYERS REGARDLESS OF CONTARCTS OR NOT IS RIDICULOUS!
No reason to ever keep a player that wants to leave unless they have Outstanding Financial issues!

What is the world of country footy coming too? A mans word use to be worth more than an ink spot!

-Clubs Clear your players!
-Players read before you sign and dont just say what clubs want to hear be honest from day one!

All better now

Spot on, why is it there is no problem when players are recruited from one club to yours but as soon as one of your own wants out some clubs are surprised and become difficult. It doesnt take long for the word to get around the footy community and this will work against you in the long run. If a player wants out and he is financial let him go, he may well return better for the experience and even if he doesn't if the situation is handled well he will speak highly of your club which will pay dividends in the future.

[Micky Conlan]

Interesting to note back in 98 Matty wadawitz and Paul Carpenter both put in clearances to Yankalilla from Willunga,here you have two very loyal local Willunga stars wanting to play against the same club that they grew up with since they were both knee high to a grass hopper.So you know what Willunga did?????sent them a loving letter wishing them all the best,look forward to playing against you,if ever you change your mind you are more then welcome back.After 2 or 3 years down at Yank back they come all smiles, several flags later & still plenty of mates down at Yank.Football is the winner in this story!WAKE UP PONGY!!!!!!!

[Dewkicker]

Damian mate HS said "regardless of contracts or not", so weather they are contracted or not clear them he is saying.
Its a very tough spot saints are in and this is where the points system can really hurt a club. Hopefully things work out with this one.

Should work out o k - from what i remember as a lad the current Saints coach should be very understanding of the players situation.

[s m skinner]

Wish i could say the same thing mickey , but i must say the situation the saints are in is one where the player has done a full pre-season doesnt like one of the players recruited , pulls out of a trial for one reason then plays for someone else in the same league . If hte saints clear him out they lose a good player , to get that value back it will cost them 4 points and money of which both they dont have . A players word is their word and if its broken teach him a lesson , otherwise all players will do the same .

[Dewkicker]

Wish i could say the same thing mickey , but i must say the situation the saints are in is one where the player has done a full pre-season doesnt like one of the players recruited , pulls out of a trial for one reason then plays for someone else in the same league . If hte saints clear him out they lose a good player , to get that value back it will cost them 4 points and money of which both they dont have . A players word is their word and if its broken teach him a lesson , otherwise all players will do the same .

Two words - Gigney and Dennis - (three actually). Very similar situation, but i suppose its not so good when its on the other foot. Bit like your non preferred - which im now presuming would be your right.
The lesson might be the Saints finishing above the Creeks???

[damian]

Wish i could say the same thing mickey , but i must say the situation the saints are in is one where the player has done a full pre-season doesnt like one of the players recruited , pulls out of a trial for one reason then plays for someone else in the same league . If hte saints clear him out they lose a good player , to get that value back it will cost them 4 points and money of which both they dont have . A players word is their word and if its broken teach him a lesson , otherwise all players will do the same .

I agree with skinner here, he has done a big dirty on the saints. Pulled out of saturdays trial due to an injury he sustained last year (serious injury) and instead went and played for Creeks, if he had of gone to the coach and playing squad and said he is looking at playing for another club, i'm sure they would have been understanding. What he did is gutless. A good player that the saints won't be able to replace, therefore is a required player and probably won't be cleared.

[BJ Ernest]

How bout a name? It will come out in the wash anyway.

Is this player going to be the difference between winning and losing? If the guy doesnt want to play then arent you better off letting him go? Sure the circumstances arent great but if the guy wants out then id say let him go, the club and players dont need guys that arent 100% committed to what you're trying to achieve.

[words of wisdom]

Wish i could say the same thing mickey , but i must say the situation the saints are in is one where the player has done a full pre-season doesnt like one of the players recruited , pulls out of a trial for one reason then plays for someone else in the same league . If hte saints clear him out they lose a good player , to get that value back it will cost them 4 points and money of which both they dont have . A players word is their word and if its broken teach him a lesson , otherwise all players will do the same .

Normally thats why players leave. They dont get along with the coach or players. Pre season or not if he doesnt want to play 4 your club i couldnt imagine popey wanting him around. Surely the saints will look at the Heathy mypo situation and not want to go down the same track. What lesson are you teaching him? Sit out a year of footy and never play footy 4 our club again! If he hasnt signed anything they wont be able to hold him

[s m skinner]

Doesnt matter what is said on this forum because unless your involved with this situation opinions will differ . The player concerned BJ is Hayden Mckinlay and is a required player , and WOW popey isnt going to clear him straight away , as i said unless you know all the details , as with pongy and heath then opinions will differ . No real winner here but some things have to be done and unfortunately not everyone can win . The saints will be judged by all and sundry as will the player , hopefully people on all sides get the whole story . The player is in the right and so is the club .

[cuzzy]

good on the saints for sticking to their guns, the club i am sure has spent a lot of time and effort for the last 3 months of pre season to ensure the team gels and this player is included in the make up of the team.

[luvayarn]

Cuzzy i agree with you (something different hey) no your spot on i dont know alot about what when on in the Saints situation with that lad but if he is a 4 point player to another club then the club he comes from should be compensated 4 that regardless as to who you support. My opinion is throw out the points system as it is just another rule in the GSFL for that Curran dickhead to have a wank over and lay the law down to all clubs concerned .

[kappars]

I believe the player mentioned would be a 2 point player (if he goes to another GSFL club) as he has only played south under 19's but he could have gone further and is a quality player, it would take the saints at least 3 points if not 4 points to replace him but then again any local club player is worth everything as they are only 1 point regaurdless of ability. Sounds like quiet a few clubs have it in for Curran! Will the points system be up for review anytime soon?

[BJ Ernest]

Who would look into reviewing this points system?? The same people that a few months back thought it would be a great idea and voted it in?

[words of wisdom]

Im not a fan of Kev, however he had nothing to do with the point system coming in. From what ive heard Gordin Tonkin raised this issue at the GSFL AGM (how ironic) and each delegate voted it in apart from Willunga. Clubs have only got themselves to blame. More thought should have gone into it before it was introduced

[Toughcall]

Kevin Curran and the League Execs tried to railroad the points system in after the 2006 season and if it was not for three clubs it would have been in a lot worse than it is now. The League has pushed this for nearly 2 years and the clubs tried to find a model that would be better than Kevs. It is better, but there is a lot of confusion and players and coaches do not like it!

[luvayarn]

WOW i am not surprised by anything Gordon Tonkin gets up to and know doubt he talked the points system up at the delegates meting tellin everyone how it would be better for footy in the GSFL, but really he was not interested in footy being better and a more even in this leauge he was and is only interested in the Langhornes Ck Footy Club he could not give a stuff about it being more even , so all the delegates that agreed with him you got what you were lookin for ,thanks to Gordons salesman history he is worst than a car salesman (he sucked them in)

[LuvsFooty]

Bit of an exodus from Victor. Wood, Sheridan, Maxwell and Kirkbride all off to Colonel Light Gardens. Would be disappointing losing these guys!

[limb]

Before you get too carried away luvayarn I'll just list a few facts about the points system..
1. The points system was brought in by the league not by an individual club.
2. Every club had over a year to discuss the system with the league, their own club and other clubs and were encouraged to suggest any changes to improve the system.
3. The system was adopted after a vote at the AGM which saw all clubs apart from Willunga (and possibly Victor?) vote in support of the system.
If anyone on this forum has a problem with the points system don't get on your soap box and point the finger at individual clubs, raise your concerns with your club delegate because unless you're from Willunga or Victor they put their hand up when Herman asked "all in favour".
I personally don't have a problem with the points system. It's been working well in every league that I know of that has it in place. Lets wait and see it how it goes in the GSFL before we get too critical. Who knows, it might even improve what is already an excellent football league?

[LuvsFooty]

Clubs that are negative and whinge about the points system will get left behind. The clubs that just accept it will adapt quickly and find success.

[Grape Ape]

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