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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby goraw » Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:53 am

fester69 wrote:Good points made by all, but why are we debating over a fairy-tale?



caus theres nothing else to do on good friday :wink:
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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby Dan The Man » Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:36 am

I can't see why Football can't be played on Good Friday.A large portion of the population are not Christian anyway.
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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby Pseudo » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:28 pm

MightyEagles wrote:If people want football on Good Friday, then why don't they play cricket on Christmas Day then?


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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby Brucetiki » Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:46 pm

I don't object to football on Good Friday (and yes, I am a Christian). Playing on Good Friday night shouldn't affect most people attending church as most Churches that have Good Friday services (and not all of them do) usually have them in the morning.

IMO, Easter Sunday is more important than Good Friday, yet there's no issue playing football on Easter Sunday.

Also, when the SANFL plays over Easter, what about playing on Easter Monday as well (could play, for example, one game Friday, one Saturday, one Sunday, and one Monday).
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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby Sheik Yerbouti » Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:59 pm

Brucetiki wrote:most people attending church as most Churches that have Good Friday services (and not all of them do) usually have them in the morning.


Stations of the Cross is at around 3 in the arvo from memory, the time that Jesus died.
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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby Mr66 » Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:36 pm

Eff the religious fruitcakes!
If they don't want to watch football fine, just don't go interfere with people who do!
If one person does it, it's insanity. If millions do it, it's religion.

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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby Sheik Yerbouti » Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:59 pm

Mr66 wrote:Eff the religious fruitcakes!
If they don't want to watch football fine, just don't go interfere with people who do!


My parents are religious & still go to church every week. I'd hardly call them fruitcakes. It's something they believe in & get a lot of satisfaction from I'd think.
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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby therisingblues » Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:33 am

bulldogproud wrote:SJABC, we have no official date as to when Jesus was born. The only astronomical event we have that can help us pinpoint a date is the Star that hovered over Bethlehem. Therefore, the Church chose a date that they thought would be a close representation of that date. Today, we think that not only may we have had the wrong month for Christmas but also the wrong year. It is believed that we are four years out in its calculation.
For Easter, we do know the astronomical timing (as outlined in earlier posts).
Hoping that helps your understanding.

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You left out the part about the Roman feast of the Saturnalia, in honour of the God of agriculture: Saturn. December 25th was usually recognised as the date of the winter solstice, and this occurred after the Saturnalia, so it was sort of tacked on. Romans used to celebrate the prospect of the lengthening days by feasting and getting pissed, laying the forerunner for the modern Christmas as celebrated in many western countries of today. They also used the occasion to pay homage to the Sun God.
The Christians though it would be a good way to win the pagans over by combining their day of worship with this pagan event. So Christmas became December 25th.
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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby johntheclaret » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:15 am

therisingblues wrote:
bulldogproud wrote:SJABC, we have no official date as to when Jesus was born. The only astronomical event we have that can help us pinpoint a date is the Star that hovered over Bethlehem. Therefore, the Church chose a date that they thought would be a close representation of that date. Today, we think that not only may we have had the wrong month for Christmas but also the wrong year. It is believed that we are four years out in its calculation.
For Easter, we do know the astronomical timing (as outlined in earlier posts).
Hoping that helps your understanding.

Cheers


You left out the part about the Roman feast of the Saturnalia, in honour of the God of agriculture: Saturn. December 25th was usually recognised as the date of the winter solstice, and this occurred after the Saturnalia, so it was sort of tacked on. Romans used to celebrate the prospect of the lengthening days by feasting and getting pissed, laying the forerunner for the modern Christmas as celebrated in many western countries of today. They also used the occasion to pay homage to the Sun God.
The Christians though it would be a good way to win the pagans over by combining their day of worship with this pagan event. So Christmas became December 25th.
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I watched the movie :wink:
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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby bulldogproud » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:37 am

The Da Vinci Code is the trashiest bit of fiction ever read. Anyone who believes anything in that, especially when the author has stated there is no substance behind it, is .... :wink:
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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby fester69 » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:27 am

And the difference between The Da Vinci Code (work of fiction) and The Bible (work of fiction) is.........
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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby stan » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:36 am

bulldogproud wrote:The Da Vinci Code is the trashiest bit of fiction ever read. Anyone who believes anything in that, especially when the author has stated there is no substance behind it, is .... :wink:


He also said its a work of fiction and enjoy it. I read it as a work of fiction and enjoyed it. Its a good read. Because of my job I dont often read much for enjoyment as most is looking through text books and the like. So I did enjoy this.
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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby therisingblues » Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:12 pm

bulldogproud wrote:The Da Vinci Code is the trashiest bit of fiction ever read. Anyone who believes anything in that, especially when the author has stated there is no substance behind it, is .... :wink:


Most works of fiction are based in fact one way or another, unless you are watching the Lord of The Rings or some other story set in a totally fictitious land.
After reading the Da Vinci code I read further, to see what substance it held. The stories it tells about the crisis the Roman Empire faced with the proliferation of Christianity, are true to my knowledge, or at least based on truth.
Think about it, one minute they are throwing Christians to the lions for entertainment, the next they have adopted it as an official religion. The transformation involved a little politicking, and Pagan events were incorporated in to the fabric of the faith to ease things as much as possible.
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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby Mr66 » Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:34 pm

fester69 wrote:And the difference between The Da Vinci Code (work of fiction) and The Bible (work of fiction) is.........




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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby bulldogproud » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:33 pm

Look, I have no problem with it as a work of fiction. However, when you get both the author and then the star of the movie both coming out and saying that it is totally fictional and yet still many people take what is said in there as fact, well, ....
Take it as a work of fiction and there is no problem.
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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby therisingblues » Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:34 pm

bulldogproud wrote:Look, I have no problem with it as a work of fiction. However, when you get both the author and then the star of the movie both coming out and saying that it is totally fictional and yet still many people take what is said in there as fact, well, ....
Take it as a work of fiction and there is no problem.
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Come on BDP I typed a whole paragraph of facts about the origins of Christmas in my last post. Why did you side step all that to continue with a discussion about the DVC? I already mentioned that the information came from further reading, ie. non fictional works by historians.
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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby johntheclaret » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:43 am

IMO Tom Hanks is a bloody good actor.
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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby bulldogproud » Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:37 pm

Theri, I saw nothing in your previous post re the beginnings of 'Christmas'. However, re Christianity becoming the accepted faith of the Romans it was as a result of Emperor Constantine becoming a gradual convert to Christianity. In 313, he issued the Edict of Milan which legalised Christianity in the Roman Empire. Constantine was led to Christianity by his mother Helena.
Theri, my comments came because when an author says to accept his work as a work of fiction and yet people still try to see it is fact, it looks like they are living in a land of fairy tales. I mean, even the author himself says it is FICTION!!
Yes, there are some events that did happen -but that is the same in most works of fiction. The dramatic story that he unfolds though is fiction.
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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby cd » Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:25 pm

For some players Good Friday is a very important day for their faith and would find it difficult to play - surely we can go one day of the year without football -Personal Post Only

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Re: Good Friday Football

Postby therisingblues » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:48 am

BDP.
Yes I'll agree that the story in the DVC is a work of fiction, and yes people should read up on some more credible materials before accepting something that came out of a book of fiction as fact.
Which is what I did.
I don't really care about the overall percentage of fiction contained in the DVC. My point is that December 25th was chosen as the date for Christmas because it was the date of a popular, existing Pagan festival, and this was done so as to win over the pagans more easily.
I can't remember the name of the book I read about it in, but you'll find a wealth of information on the net about it, just google "Origins of Christmas".
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