PORT MAGPIES

[CUTTERMAN]

NO ONE gave Sturt a chance of making the 5 last year and they did

Part of that was fitness and a very big part coaching. Sturt were sliding for a few years under Phillips and he completely lost the players and a lot did not enjoy him being coach so they stopped playing for him. Mind you I am not sure he could coach . So from what I gather Port could have the same issues , however on the surface at least Ginever is a likeable character. Lets hope you sort it out because the sooner Port become a force whilst there are some of the big clubs up there the better for the comp. A return of the big 4 must be the SANFL's dream.

OCT, Sticks turned a team around and won a flag with us, and playing against one of the most dominant eras from a club ever in the SANFL, being Centrals. From a post on DB.ORG, it's been mentioned that he had pegged out Centrals game plan and saved it up for the GF, don't tell me he couldn't coach.

[smithy]

I'm not sure a coach who couldn't coach has ever coached a premiership.

That's coaching !

[OCT]

Yeah I understand your point guys but if you are fair dinkum he really just put a bit of polish on it and we completely changed our game . I am not doubting we were the best side in the comp because I reckon we were, providing we had a full list and we did. So that was 2002 and where did we go after that ? I reckon a coach should be judged over a period of time not just 1 year , imagine if Essendon did that with Sheedy ? The other point that has never been raised is that the players took a fair bit of "control" that day from what I believe. It certainly wasn't "handball city " like he wanted it and got it after that year . Its the easiset game to shut down as Central & Eagles have consistently showed.

[therisingblues]

Sorry to swing the diversionary chatter back on topic, but Port's records show Fos Williams took them to 5 flags straight, and then Geoff Motley took over and took them to their 6th straight flag. He didn't do much after that though, and when Fos returned to Alberton, he took them to instant success once more.
Anybody know any background to the Williams/Motley coaching era at Alberton? Just looking at the records sort of indicates a Carman/Phillips situation like we had at Unley, where the change of coach brought instant success, but fell away after that.

[Wedgie]

Sorry to swing the diversionary chatter back on topic, but Port's records show Fos Williams took them to 5 flags straight, and then Geoff Motley took over and took them to their 6th straight flag. He didn't do much after that though, and when Fos returned to Alberton, he took them to instant success once more.
Anybody know any background to the Williams/Motley coaching era at Alberton? Just looking at the records sort of indicates a Carman/Phillips situation like we had at Unley, where the change of coach brought instant success, but fell away after that.

Dunno about the Motley coaching era elsewhere but I know he sent North backwards when he took over the reigns there, luckily Mike Patterson was good enough to clean up the mess.
I rate G.Motley right up there with Chris McDermott and Darel Hart when it comes to coaching.

[therisingblues]

I just checked the NAFC website for the details. Motley coached North in 1967, 1968 and 1969. All I know is that North won flags in 1960, 1971 and 1972. I have no idea what happened in the ten odd years between '60 and '71. What did he do that gives him such a bad reputation?

[am Bays]

Sorry to swing the diversionary chatter back on topic, but Port's records show Fos Williams took them to 5 flags straight, and then Geoff Motley took over and took them to their 6th straight flag. He didn't do much after that though, and when Fos returned to Alberton, he took them to instant success once more.
Anybody know any background to the Williams/Motley coaching era at Alberton? Just looking at the records sort of indicates a Carman/Phillips situation like we had at Unley, where the change of coach brought instant success, but fell away after that.

Dunno about the Motley coaching era elsewhere but I know he sent North backwards when he took over the reigns there, luckily Mike Patterson was good enough to clean up the mess.
I rate G.Motley right up there with Chris McDermott and Darel Hart when it comes to coaching.

And Barrie Robran no doubt, for his coaching prowess....

[Wedgie]

Sorry to swing the diversionary chatter back on topic, but Port's records show Fos Williams took them to 5 flags straight, and then Geoff Motley took over and took them to their 6th straight flag. He didn't do much after that though, and when Fos returned to Alberton, he took them to instant success once more.
Anybody know any background to the Williams/Motley coaching era at Alberton? Just looking at the records sort of indicates a Carman/Phillips situation like we had at Unley, where the change of coach brought instant success, but fell away after that.

Dunno about the Motley coaching era elsewhere but I know he sent North backwards when he took over the reigns there, luckily Mike Patterson was good enough to clean up the mess.
I rate G.Motley right up there with Chris McDermott and Darel Hart when it comes to coaching.

And Barrie Robran no doubt, for his coaching prowess....

Nup, I rate Barrie higher, in fact I rate your coaching prowess higher than Motley, McDermott or Hart.

[am Bays]

Nup, I rate Barrie higher, in fact I rate your coaching prowess higher than Motley, McDermott or Hart.

Well at least McDermott and Hart got your lot into finals.

Mate I'm no coach I'm whats called a mini-bus - only half a coach....

[Wedgie]

Nup, I rate Barrie higher, in fact I rate your coaching prowess higher than Motley, McDermott or Hart.

Well at least McDermott and Hart got your lot into finals.

Mate I'm no coach I'm whats called a mini-bus - only half a coach....

So did Motley but only an ignorant fool would justify a coach by that, we all know its about getting the best out of what you have.

[am Bays]

Nup, I rate Barrie higher, in fact I rate your coaching prowess higher than Motley, McDermott or Hart.

Well at least McDermott and Hart got your lot into finals.

Mate I'm no coach I'm whats called a mini-bus - only half a coach....

So did Motley but only an ignorant fool would justify a coach by that, we all know its about getting the best out of what you have.

I'm not ignorant, I'm indignent at theat comment....

[Wedgie]

Nup, I rate Barrie higher, in fact I rate your coaching prowess higher than Motley, McDermott or Hart.

Well at least McDermott and Hart got your lot into finals.

Mate I'm no coach I'm whats called a mini-bus - only half a coach....

So did Motley but only an ignorant fool would justify a coach by that, we all know its about getting the best out of what you have.

I'm not ignorant, I'm indignent at theat comment....

I don't think you are ignorant, I think you're just having a very minor troll.

Micheal Flynn was worse than all of them though.

[G]

Wedgie may I suggest that under Flynn, McDermott and Hart that you check the cattle that they had at their disposal. [also check the clubs finances ]

Im not bagging Jars but I think it would be easier to coach in the current environment.

[goraw]

Wedgie may I suggest that under Flynn, McDermott and Hart that you check the cattle that they had at their disposal. [also check the clubs finances ]

Im not bagging Jars but I think it would be easier to coach in the current environment.

mcdermott and hart had plenty of chances to *fix/recruit* what they wanted , they had plenty of time. look where jars took over to where we are now. to defend them is just stupid and if u feel happy what they did while in charge well......

[Wedgie]

I agree with both of the above comments even though one disagrees with the other, I wasn't comparing the coaches to Jars and agree he's had a plum gig.
Once again I think it would be ignorant to just judge coaches on the position they coached a side to, there's a hell of a lot of other factors to take into account.

[CENTURION]

i know i shouldnt say this but i hope that j gowans gets his just desserts this year whether it be from pickett or whoever, the suspension he received for what he did was disgraceful, the only thing worse than the susspension was the offence, he should have got 10 weks minimum

I was so bored yesterday, sitting at home drinking a 1.125 litre bottle of Smirnoff, that I decided to watch a replay of the 2007 GF again. Thank god for the "step" button on my remote control, you can play the DVD frame by frame. Boy, that Schubert's a thug, no wonder James Gowans retaliated in the fashion that he did!
You & all the others out there that don't know, or don't want to know the facts STILL, should buy a decent DVD & have a look & GET OVER IT!

[G]

goraw I certainly wasnt happy with the performances during the period I mentioned, Im just attempting to be rational.
There is no question the club was run a lot more tight fisted [as it had to be] during that time and recruiting was definately harder than at present.
Anyway lets not worry about then and push onwards and upwards NOW.

[stan]

Wedgie may I suggest that under Flynn, McDermott and Hart that you check the cattle that they had at their disposal. [also check the clubs finances ]

Im not bagging Jars but I think it would be easier to coach in the current environment.

mcdermott and hart had plenty of chances to *fix/recruit* what they wanted , they had plenty of time. look where jars took over to where we are now. to defend them is just stupid and if u feel happy what they did while in charge well......

Hang on there is not way McDermott and Hart had the funds that North have now. Thats just STUPID to think that.

[NO-MERCY]

I thought this was PORT MAGPIES thread??????

[goraw]

Wedgie may I suggest that under Flynn, McDermott and Hart that you check the cattle that they had at their disposal. [also check the clubs finances ]

Im not bagging Jars but I think it would be easier to coach in the current environment.

mcdermott and hart had plenty of chances to *fix/recruit* what they wanted , they had plenty of time. look where jars took over to where we are now. to defend them is just stupid and if u feel happy what they did while in charge well......

Hang on there is not way McDermott and Hart had the funds that North have now. Thats just STUPID to think that.

niether did jars in his first year or 2 is the point im making .