Best Quarter by an Individual Player?

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Postby drebin » Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:10 am

Aerie wrote:Gill is definitely an exciting player. Very hard to match up on. His kicking was a bit of a problem last year wasn't it? It seems fine so far this year. His "blogs" on the nafc website are a crack up as well!


I wouldn't say it is fine so far! He kicked 3 points from relatively easy shots on Friday night that would have got him double figures - that was after kicking 7 straight I think? Also against South in our previous game he had 13 shots at goal for a return of 3 goals 6 and 4 out on the full! Depends on which day he has his kicking boot on but he gets enough marks (and most contested) that eventually he gets the returns.
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Postby ORDoubleBlues » Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:13 am

GWW wrote:Does anyone know the background to Gill as far as:

Was he on an AFL list? (i'm pretty sure he was??)...if so how long? Which club? Did he play any AFL games?


As was mentioned by someone else, Gill was on the Melbourne senior list and I think he was on the Kangaroos rookie list as well.
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Postby drebin » Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:35 am

Correct ORD - AFL reports had the reason he was delisted was mainly due to him not being a strong left foot kick and his preferred right side kicking can be ordinary at times (which is the case) but hell he can run, jump, chase, tackle and excite. Not bad for a bloke 193 and 90kgs. When Alleway eventually gets into the lineup at CHF after injury, Gill will play as a loose half forward flanker. Alleway is rated as better than Gill by most Vic scouts so he will be something to look forward to later in the year!

P.S. Gill considers his AFL days are over and it doesn't really bother him and that hopefully means a few more years at North.
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Postby ORDoubleBlues » Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:30 am

drebin wrote:
P.S. Gill considers his AFL days are over and it doesn't really bother him and that hopefully means a few more years at North.


As a Crows supporter, I'd hope a shrewd player manager like Neil Craig would be willing to give him a shot. Players who have less going for them have been given a second chance at AFL level.
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Postby Blue Boy » Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:38 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
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Jimmy wrote:Gill for PM then i guess...or atleast MM 8)


That would be good, but Magareys and Brownlows are for midfielders with no marking ability. Umpires have mindsets against anyone over 6 foot tall :)


Gill was runner up last year


Yes, I know. He was my pick to win. My point is that taller players miss out on votes they should receive. They have for years. The concept of Magarey Medals has never sat comfortably with me.


He wont miss out on any votes for Friday night - he might even get the 2 and the one votes
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Re: Best Quarter by an Individual Player?

Postby Blue Boy » Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:43 pm

Wedgie wrote:Big call but I and a lot of others at Adelaide Oval think Gill's 2nd quarter tonight was the best we've ever seen by an individual player.
I've seen D Jarman play some rippers but tonight's effort by Gill took the cake.
Any other miraculous quarter by other players others can remember?

PS Its not as though the rest of the game was ordinary by Gill, far from it, its just the 2nd qtr was freakish. He was the furthest in front BOG I've seen for a long long long long time.


Yes Wedgies best indivdual quater performance at any SANFL game I have seen which is making me cry again by saying this after seein it.

When a player punches the ball when he is the 4th player back and it lobs up and lands on his chest you know it his night.

Might have also seen this years premiership side as well
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Postby Macca19 » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:48 pm

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Macca19 wrote:From memory Scott Hodges kicked 8 goals in the first quarter of the 1990 Prelim Final against North Adelaide. Match was over at quarter time. He ended with 13 and we won by 15 goals.

His last quarter of the 94 Grand Final was pretty special as well.


Are you sure it was 8? Bit hard to believe, although i'm not saying it didnt happen.


Pretty sure it was 8. Spell check might be able to help out here but I think we had something like 13 goals to 1/4 time.
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Postby spell_check » Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:15 pm

I don't know about Hodges quarter by quarter goals but here are the scores from that game:

Port 10.5 17.7 25.13 28.14 (182)
North 1.1 4.2 9.2 14.7 (91)
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Postby good ol' red and white » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:04 pm

All this talk on the best quarter of football by an individual reminds me of the first game I went to: North V Port at Prospect back in 1981. I think we were at least 5 goals up at 3/4 time until Craig Bradley brought his own ball and began to dominate proceedings. I don't think it was the best quarter of football I've seen by an individual, but it certainly was one of my most memorable.
I was at the 1990 prelim. with a couple of Port mates (and stayed until the end), and can't recall Hodges kicking 8 in the first quarter. If this had happened it would have received more publicity and thus would be common knowledge amongst SANFL followers. However, I have been wrong before.

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Postby Macca19 » Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:41 pm

I remember seeing/hearing the Hodges thing on the news report of the match taht night. I still have that on video at my parents house so next time im over there ill search for the tape and have a look.
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Postby Leaping Lindner » Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:09 pm

Macca19 wrote:I remember seeing/hearing the Hodges thing on the news report of the match taht night. I still have that on video at my parents house so next time im over there ill search for the tape and have a look.


What I remember of the 90 PF is that Hodges had a day out on Tim Perkins and only slowed down once Trevor Clisby got moved onto him. Of course by then it was well and truly over as a contest or indeed anything resembling a contest. IIRC he kicked 13 goals for the match and 11 of them were on Perkins. Can't remember if he got 8 in the 1st qtr but I don't think he did.
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Postby jim5112 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:01 am

Wedgie, how would you compare it with the 6 goals Daniel Schell kicked in the last term at at Prospect in round 1, 29-03-2003 ? Schell was only moved to full forward at the ten minute mark after playing in defence....
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Postby am Bays » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:35 am

It is easy to rate forwards as the best player in quarters as you can judge it by the number of goals they kick. However forwards are only as good as the midfielders that get the ball down to them. Would love to some of the best individual quarter stats by some of the midfield guns that have graced the hallowed fields of the SANFL.

Can't remember too many individual outstanding quarter performances by Bay players. LArgely because when we win it is an even team effort accros four quarters!!! However I've seen a number of individual performances against us in my time by midfielders.

Some hack called A Mcloed, kicked several goals in the 3rd quarter agaisnt us when we were thrashed by Port in 94 at the Bay, plaing as a midfielder he was everywhere, it seemed. No-one could stop him, he had about three opponents I think. He showed a bit back then......

However you've got to rate performances in the big games so after being quiet (thanks to David Allan Brian Holst) all game Ebert turned it on in the 4th quarter of 1977 GF with 3 goals from the half forward flank. John Nicholls in his wisdom decided not keep Holst on him.......and somewhere on the Eyre Peninsula a six year old Tigers fans bawled his eyes out and hoped and preyed that Glenelg would never lose another GF to Port......... :cry: :cry:
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Postby Ian » Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:57 am

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:It is easy to rate forwards as the best player in quarters as you can judge it by the number of goals they kick. However forwards are only as good as the midfielders that get the ball down to them. Would love to some of the best individual quarter stats by some of the midfield guns that have graced the hallowed fields of the SANFL.


Gill's effort on Fri night had a lot more to it than a typical forwards day/night out.
Most of his marks were contested marks in a pack, not just a leading forward getting hit on the chest by midfielders.
He kept doing the team things, his chasing and tackling was sensational, he was always looking for a team mate, for me his game was a lot more than a typical forward getting the ball delivered on a plate and kicking a bag.
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Postby Magpiespower » Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:31 am

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
Some hack called A Mcloed, kicked several goals in the 3rd quarter agaisnt us when we were thrashed by Port in 94 at the Bay, plaing as a midfielder he was everywhere, it seemed. No-one could stop him, he had about three opponents I think. He showed a bit back then......


Kicked six that day from memory.
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Postby am Bays » Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:58 am

Ian wrote:Gill's effort on Fri night had a lot more to it than a typical forwards day/night out.
Most of his marks were contested marks in a pack, not just a leading forward getting hit on the chest by midfielders.
He kept doing the team things, his chasing and tackling was sensational, he was always looking for a team mate, for me his game was a lot more than a typical forward getting the ball delivered on a plate and kicking a bag.


Not denying that Gill's effort wasn't as Bruce would say "Special"

My point is it is easy to quantify "special" forwards in a quarter, my point is that it is harderto recognise the outstanding midfielders and I was merely trying to recall two outstanding midfield performances in a quarter.

FWIW I thought Ginevars 3rd quarter was absolutely sensational in the 94 GF, Ginevar led a midfield that kept getting it at half back and in the midfield and they kept pumping down to the forward line. In the 4th quarter the dam opened and Hodges had a field day but my point is the pressure that Ginevar led on the Eagles backline by repeatedly placing them under pressure that made it easy for Hodges to dominate.

Hey if the miodfielders can't get it down there the forwards cant kick goals.

I mean just like my you and my original post, Gill this week just won't get it either (as often as he did last week anyway) when the Glenelg midfield dominate the North midfield - the ball just won't get down there.... :lol: :lol: :P :P ....
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Postby Booney » Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:58 am

Hodges in the last Qtr of the 94' GF.Sounds as though Gill put in a blinder on Friday night,didnt see it but was listening on the radio to it.Most would agree,last Qtr of a GF is a pretty big stage to perform on.

(no offence to Gill,Friday night footy in round 4 or Sturt!)

Also one for Wedgie.Round 6 1989,the day Brereton got Yates near the boundary,(Yates famously squaring up the ladger in that magical GF :wink: ). That game,if you like Wedgie I can lend it to you has a quarter where G.Ablett kicks 5 goals from a wing,Dipper kicks 3 going the other way,and G.Buckanara has 17 kicks in 20 minutes!

The final margin only a goal or two after Geelong were 7 in front at the half.Over 50 goals in the match.
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Postby ca » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:12 pm

No doubt I'll cop a bit for saying this and keeping in mind I didn't see Gill's performance on Friday night but the two best quarters of football by a single player that stick in my mind are:

Eugine Warrior - 97 reserves Grand final playing for Port. At a lower level but the guy played one of the most amazing quarters of football you could have seen at any level, kicking goals from the boundary. Words can not describe how freakish that performance was.

Eugine Warrior - 1999 Semi final (I hope I got the dates right) playing for Norwood against Glenelg, Norwood came from behind, I think Eugine kicked 4 for the quarter and set up a couple more in half a quarter, won Norwood the game.

I still to this day don't think I have seen a player turn a game at any level by himself as he could. Pity we never really got to see the best of him as he truly was a freakish player at his best. Unfortunaly when he was poor he was very very poor.
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Postby Rushby Hinds » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:21 pm

Mine are both by Tony Hall.

One was versus North @ prospect, circa 86, he was full forward kicked maybe 5 goals in the first quarter, the scoreline at 1/4 time was 8 goals to 8 goals, IIRC, in front of a big crowd.


Second was in the 1988 bicntenial carnival @ Footy park, also in the first quarter, he was completely on fire. The game was all over @ 1/4 time, and it was a very short 1/4 as it was a carnival.
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:35 pm

Borat wrote:Mine are both by Tony Hall.

One was versus North @ prospect, circa 86, he was full forward kicked maybe 5 goals in the first quarter, the scoreline at 1/4 time was 8 goals to 8 goals, IIRC, in front of a big crowd.


I saw that game and I agree he was unstoppable. Hall was a brilliant player.
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