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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby Dutchy » Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:34 pm

OK maybe not credibility but as front men for the club could you think of 2 better people (add Archer also)?

BTW Pagan is a successful breeder and owner of horses and Punter jointly runs a player management coy, so they do know a thing or two about business
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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby smac » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:10 pm

Punter also got KO'd by a tranny in the Cross... :lol:
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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:13 pm

smac wrote:Punter also got KO'd by a tranny in the Cross... :lol:



And Pagan got tanked at Princess Park LOL. Sorry Dutchy, you're in strife!

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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby Dirko » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:22 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
smac wrote:Punter also got KO'd by a tranny in the Cross... :lol:



And Pagan got tanked at Princess Park LOL. Sorry Dutchy, you're in strife!

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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby Booney » Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:24 am

Dutchy wrote:Legal Identity - NMFC
Known as - Kangaroos

how is that selling your identity? :roll:


Legal Identity-Port Adelaide Football Club
Known as - Power

This argument does go on Dutchy,beware what you start. :wink: :lol:
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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby am Bays » Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:01 am

Ahem, known as Port Power.....but I digress

This is easy to type as a non-North melbourne Supporter, well I was once as a 7 year old when Cornesy crossed over the border in 1979, when he came back I regained my senses!!!

This current scenario has 1986 all over it again with Fitzroy's 1st planned move to Brisbane. The NMFC and the anti-North relocation have rocks in their head if they think they can stave off a move to the Gold Coast. The AFL/VFL have a very good track history of getting what they want when it comes to teh structure of their competition:

1981-82 Sydney
1986 A team in Brisbane, Perth
1990 An Adel team
1992 keep Sydney alive so pump cash into them
1994 a second team in Perth
1996 want Port in so need to get rid of Fitzroy (threaten a 17th team, threaten to reduce funds if they stay and at the same time offer incentives for Fitzroy to go to Bris (sound eerilie familiar))

North Melbourne can delay relocating by appointing a pro Melbourne board and for 3-5 years it will survive but long term as AFL club turnovers reach 40 Mill (they are 30 Mill now and only years ago 20 mill) will North be able to generate that amount of cash flow based in melbourne with nine other clubs??

Make no mistake the AFL will reduce support to North if it decides to let the heart rule the head. It will put in a 17th team as it want a second side out of SE QLd so if it stays in Melbourne it will wither and die a la Fitzroy.

MAke the decision to relocate now and North can control the inevitable (as much as the old North Melbourne identity colours song emblem etc can be retained of their previous 100 odd years of history).

Fight it they will just delay the inevitable and North fans will have to accept at best a merger or at worst folding where part of all of their North Melbourne identity will be lost.

As we SA found in 1989 - 1990 if the AFL/VFL want something they will get it as unfortunetly money talks and they have it and control it when it comes to the Australian Football industry.
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:29 am

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Legal Identity - NMFC
Known as - Kangaroos

how is that selling your identity? :roll:


Legal Identity-Port Adelaide Football Club
Known as - Power

This argument does go on Dutchy,beware what you start. :wink: :lol:



The team formerly known as Prince...... :wink: *scampers out of the room*

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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby Dirko » Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:33 am

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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby JK » Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:07 pm

Looks as though the general consensus is that if North don't move they're pretty much rooted, if not immediately, then down the track ... What chances of new or existing teams moving/opening in Sydney and Tassie in the future? And if likely, then what effect on the Roo's - A further lifeline or even greater hurdle in the club's quest for survival?
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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby Hondo » Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:29 pm

I heard Eddie on the radio today saying that Collingwood have offered to play 6 games at the Gold Coast from as early as next season if the Roos stay in Melbourne :wink:

He thinks its a boom area and the AFL must have a presence there
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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby Dirko » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:07 pm

hondo71 wrote:I heard Eddie on the radio today saying that Collingwood have offered to play 6 games at the Gold Coast from as early as next season if the Roos stay in Melbourne :wink:

He thinks its a boom area and the AFL must have a presence there


Good **** off Collingwood !
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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby (S)aintbackline » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:00 pm

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:Ahem, known as Port Power.....but I digress

This is easy to type as a non-North melbourne Supporter, well I was once as a 7 year old when Cornesy crossed over the border in 1979, when he came back I regained my senses!!!

This current scenario has 1986 all over it again with Fitzroy's 1st planned move to Brisbane. The NMFC and the anti-North relocation have rocks in their head if they think they can stave off a move to the Gold Coast. The AFL/VFL have a very good track history of getting what they want when it comes to teh structure of their competition:

1981-82 Sydney
1986 A team in Brisbane, Perth
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1992 keep Sydney alive so pump cash into them
1994 a second team in Perth
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North Melbourne can delay relocating by appointing a pro Melbourne board and for 3-5 years it will survive but long term as AFL club turnovers reach 40 Mill (they are 30 Mill now and only years ago 20 mill) will North be able to generate that amount of cash flow based in melbourne with nine other clubs??

Make no mistake the AFL will reduce support to North if it decides to let the heart rule the head. It will put in a 17th team as it want a second side out of SE QLd so if it stays in Melbourne it will wither and die a la Fitzroy.

MAke the decision to relocate now and North can control the inevitable (as much as the old North Melbourne identity colours song emblem etc can be retained of their previous 100 odd years of history).

Fight it they will just delay the inevitable and North fans will have to accept at best a merger or at worst folding where part of all of their North Melbourne identity will be lost.

As we SA found in 1989 - 1990 if the AFL/VFL want something they will get it as unfortunetly money talks and they have it and control it when it comes to the Australian Football industry.


So in the end NM will be like Fitzroy and will either fold or merge with the SEqld.
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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby am Bays » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:01 pm

hondo71 wrote:I heard Eddie on the radio today saying that Collingwood have offered to play 6 games at the Gold Coast from as early as next season if the Roos stay in Melbourne :wink:

He thinks its a boom area and the AFL must have a presence there


Beware teh devil in the detail there Hondo71, basically the deal is that Colllingwood would play all there interstate "away" games on the gold coast and the rest of their games oin Melbourne. BAsically it would give Collingwood 17 home games a year.....

if you think ZCollingwood are doing this to help the AFL as opposed to themselves think again....

Basically Adelaide, West Coast, Port Power, Freo, Sydney and Brisbane would have to give up a home game so Collingwood can play "away" at the Gold Coast
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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby Hondo » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:03 pm

I reckon it could be a ploy to create another pressure point for the 'under the pump' Roos Board

ie, Eddie helping out Andew D

Tassie just read your post - yeah it could well be just another way for Collingwood to get ahead
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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby redden whites » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:06 pm

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
This is easy to type as a non-North melbourne Supporter, well I was once as a 7 year old when Cornesy crossed over the border in 1979, when he came back I regained my senses!!!


Gee that would have been a very brief fling as a supporter.
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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby redden whites » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:16 pm

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
Basically Adelaide, West Coast, Port Power, Freo, Sydney and Brisbane would have to give up a home game so Collingwood can play "away" at the Gold Coast

Please explain ..you think that Adelaide would be forced to Play a HOME game against Collingwood at the Gold Coast or Have I miss read that .......I surely must have as that is the biggest and most ridiculous conspiracy theory I have ever heard.
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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby am Bays » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:24 pm

redden whites wrote:
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
Basically Adelaide, West Coast, Port Power, Freo, Sydney and Brisbane would have to give up a home game so Collingwood can play "away" at the Gold Coast

Please explain ..you think that Adelaide would be forced to Play a HOME game against Collingwood at the Gold Coast or Have I miss read that .......I surely must have as that is the biggest and most ridiculous conspiracy theory I have ever heard.


http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,22804623-23211,00.html

Collingwood floated the idea of having a permanent part-time presence of the Gold Coast, which would mean they would not play any other games outside Victoria other than in Queensland, The Age newspaper reported today.

This offer was around three years ago when a gold coast move was first mooted and Carlton raised the same idea (except) all their away games in 1992 when the Swans almost went Brown.

Look I don't believe it will happen as for the AFL to get the funding off the Gold Coast council and the QLD state govt they need a full time presence based on teh Gold coast not a six week fly in fly out operation. The AFL will pay lip service to it (call Collingwood an innovative club) to appear they are convasing all the options.

by 2010 there will be a team on the Gold cost (they want a presence in Australias fastest growing metropolitan area and they don't want to give RL a leg like they did in Canberra by not putting a side in there) whether it is a 16 team comp or a 17 team comp is for North Melbourne to decide.
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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby redden whites » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:37 pm

I am still looking for a "give up a home game" explaination?
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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby Psyber » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:43 pm

redden whites wrote:I am still looking for a "give up a home game" explanation?

?????? I thought it was pretty obvious - if Collingwood play all their "away" games in Qld it has to mean they are some other teams "home" games, because all Collingwood's home games will be in Melbourne!!
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Re: ROO-sistance

Postby Hondo » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:44 pm

redden whites wrote:I am still looking for a "give up a home game" explaination?


Yes, it now sounds more of a pipe-dream than when I heard the radio grab

Chances of the Crows and Power agreeing to that? :shock:

Thanks Tassie for the info definitely puts a better perspective on it
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