James Hopes, that was his nickname because of his facial hair.
You got me thinking so I went and checked, just ODIs and T20s for Australia 9which TBH is a fair effort.
Another middle order bat/alrounder who played ODIS but never a test was Ken MacKay in the 80s
From the rebel tours of the 80s you could Steve Smith, Mike Haysman and Mick Taylor who all made runs at the "international" level. John Maguire was a good bowler who was 12th man I think for Australia once.
Facing LeRoux, Procter, Rice and a young Alan Donald not a bad attack.
Remember getting his sticker for the 1983 Benson & Hedges World Series Cricket sticker book and being disappointed
Tests ODIs T20Is
Jamie Cox Bill Ponsford Mark Waugh
Sam Trimble Victor Trumper David Hookes
Michael Di Venuto Don Bradman Dean Jones
Jamie Siddons (c) Neil Harvey Kim Hughes
David Hussey Norm O’Neill Steve Waugh
James Hopes Richie Benaud (c) Keith Miller
Darren Berry Bert Oldfield Rod Marsh
Ken MacLeay Alan Davidson Shane Warne (c)
Adam Zampa Colin Miller Dennis Lillee
Wayne Holdsworth Bill O’Reilly Jeff Thomson
Eddie Gilbert Fred Spofforth Clarrie Grimmett
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
There's a lot of bowlers/all-rounders who played ODIs/T20s for Australia but not tests, whose FC records suggest they could have done well at test level - e.g. Joel Paris, Dan Worrall, Jason Behrendorff, Ben Cutting, Lance Morris, Andrew Zesers pending injury, maybe Ashley Noffke, Dirk Nannes, Dan Christian, NCN, Ian Harvey. Shane Lee wasn't too shabby with the bat in FC cricket.
Aaron Hardie has a very good Shield record with bat and ball as well. Lance Morris perhaps but good chance he gets a crack at some point.
RB wrote:There's a lot of bowlers/all-rounders who played ODIs/T20s for Australia but not tests, whose FC records suggest they could have done well at test level - e.g. Joel Paris, Dan Worrall, Jason Behrendorff, Ben Cutting, Lance Morris, Andrew Zesers pending injury, maybe Ashley Noffke, Dirk Nannes, Dan Christian, NCN, Ian Harvey. Shane Lee wasn't too shabby with the bat in FC cricket.
Aaron Hardie has a very good Shield record with bat and ball as well. Lance Morris perhaps but good chance he gets a crack at some point.
That's a fair list, I always thought Zesers would get a call up, Noffke was very talented as was Cutting. Did the Dorff play much shield cricket, I recall him breaking down a fair bit. I think ytour list fillsm the remaining spots.
I woud've thought that the numbers would be higher for the most runs and wickets in shield cricket.
amber_fluid wrote:Looking at FC stats
I didn’t realise how many hundreds Michael Bevan made or how good his average was
Up there with Boof
Michael Bevan was absolutely insane in the Shield and county cricket. I could spit out heaps of stats, but cop this one. His first class batting average at the SCG - from 93 innings (of which 22 were not out), so hardly a tiny sample size - was 79.08.
amber_fluid wrote:Looking at FC stats
I didn’t realise how many hundreds Michael Bevan made or how good his average was
Up there with Boof
Michael Bevan was absolutely insane in the Shield and county cricket. I could spit out heaps of stats, but cop this one. His first class batting average at the SCG - from 93 innings (of which 22 were not out), so hardly a tiny sample size - was 79.08.
79!!
25 centuries on that ground alone.
The Final Word Cricket Podcast guys did a repeat of their live show chat with Bevan from a couple of years ago posted on New Years Day just gone (celebrating his hundred against the Windies in 1995) and they discussed his SCG stats, a worthy listen.
amber_fluid wrote:Looking at FC stats
I didn’t realise how many hundreds Michael Bevan made or how good his average was
Up there with Boof
Michael Bevan was absolutely insane in the Shield and county cricket. I could spit out heaps of stats, but cop this one. His first class batting average at the SCG - from 93 innings (of which 22 were not out), so hardly a tiny sample size - was 79.08.
79!!
25 centuries on that ground alone.
Did he also debut for South Australia when he was here for the Academy? Was the rule if the home state didn't want to pick them then SA could?
RB wrote:He did, along with a few around that time. I don't recall what the rule was.
The rule was they could play for SA, Scuderi (Qld) and Williams (Victoria I think) whilst they were in attendance at the academy however if their home state wanted them they had to return home. Not sure I if Scuderi told Qld to stuff it or he came back pronto.
I think Darren Berry did too or maybe he played the year after his academy stint whilst Dimmatina was still playing for Victoria, then he went back. He played for SA in 89-90.
I did hear a good story about a run in between Bevan and May in the changerooms over someone Bevan invited into the rooms.
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
amber_fluid wrote:Looking at FC stats
I didn’t realise how many hundreds Michael Bevan made or how good his average was
Up there with Boof
Michael Bevan was absolutely insane in the Shield and county cricket. I could spit out heaps of stats, but cop this one. His first class batting average at the SCG - from 93 innings (of which 22 were not out), so hardly a tiny sample size - was 79.08.
79!!
25 centuries on that ground alone.
Did he also debut for South Australia when he was here for the Academy? Was the rule if the home state didn't want to pick them then SA could?
