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First time a side has been dismissed for 567 in Test history.
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whufc wrote:Biggest Flop England- Well Bashir didn't end up getting a game so got a free holiday so that was pretty close haha, Carse tries but he is truly a goer in the same sense as Wagner. Close enough......probably any Potts, Wood, Archer or Duckett was the correct answer.
You did reasonably well but can't pay this one haha, I suspect that Carse won't be a long-term test player but he's a long way from the poms' worst flop.
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Booney wrote:First time a side has been dismissed for 567 in Test history.
99: The lowest individual score never made in a test at the SCG.
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RB wrote:
whufc wrote:Biggest Flop England- Well Bashir didn't end up getting a game so got a free holiday so that was pretty close haha, Carse tries but he is truly a goer in the same sense as Wagner. Close enough......probably any Potts, Wood, Archer or Duckett was the correct answer.
You did reasonably well but can't pay this one haha, I suspect that Carse won't be a long-term test player but he's a long way from the poms' worst flop.
Yeah you're right....

I don't see him having a long term future either, he really is a Neil Wagner bang it in operator which probably swayed me to saying i was close but realistically Potts, Wood, Archer, Duckett have all been far worse.
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Can we sub Green out
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I know all the jokes of a bloke who hasn't made a first-class century batting at 3 at test level but i like alot about Bethell.

At 23 seems to have a good temperament, plays on the edge of aggressive without being stupid, nice well rounded technique front foot and back foot and has that bit of swagger confidence most super elite sportsmen seem to have.

Has an ODI 100 which suggests the step up in quality bowling is completely above his level, there is some hope there.

Definitely one to watch in the future but will take into account we have no Cummins, Hazelwood or spinner.
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Cam Green would normally catch those with his eyes closed. He needs a bit of a spell, make runs and take wickets in the Sheffield Shield and enjoy the game.
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wenchbarwer wrote:Cam Green would normally catch those with his eyes closed. He needs a bit of a spell, make runs and take wickets in the Sheffield Shield and enjoy the game.
And earn his spot back

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wenchbarwer wrote:Cam Green would normally catch those with his eyes closed. He needs a bit of a spell, make runs and take wickets in the Sheffield Shield and enjoy the game.
He won't be playing any more First Class games for the rest of the domestic summer. T20 World Cup into the IPL.

His next red ball game would be v Bangladesh in August (if selected).
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Neser gets Duckett.
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whiteclawbaby wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:Cam Green would normally catch those with his eyes closed. He needs a bit of a spell, make runs and take wickets in the Sheffield Shield and enjoy the game.
He won't be playing any more First Class games for the rest of the domestic summer. T20 World Cup into the IPL.

His next red ball game would be v Bangladesh in August (if selected).
I was thinking a more extended spell than that
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whufc wrote:I know all the jokes of a bloke who hasn't made a first-class century batting at 3 at test level but i like alot about Bethell.

At 23 seems to have a good temperament, plays on the edge of aggressive without being stupid, nice well rounded technique front foot and back foot and has that bit of swagger confidence most super elite sportsmen seem to have.

Has an ODI 100 which suggests the step up in quality bowling is completely above his level, there is some hope there.

Definitely one to watch in the future but will take into account we have no Cummins, Hazelwood or spinner.
I agree, just very unusual to be selected without a FC ton.

I’m sure TDK can find some stats on how often this has happened at Test level.
Dunno, I’m just an idiot.
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whiteclawbaby wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:Cam Green would normally catch those with his eyes closed. He needs a bit of a spell, make runs and take wickets in the Sheffield Shield and enjoy the game.
He won't be playing any more First Class games for the rest of the domestic summer. T20 World Cup into the IPL.

His next red ball game would be v Bangladesh in August (if selected).
Not sure about this "if" word, he'll be selected and star against the minnows which will earn him another half a dozen tests.
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dedja wrote:
whufc wrote:I know all the jokes of a bloke who hasn't made a first-class century batting at 3 at test level but i like alot about Bethell.

At 23 seems to have a good temperament, plays on the edge of aggressive without being stupid, nice well rounded technique front foot and back foot and has that bit of swagger confidence most super elite sportsmen seem to have.

Has an ODI 100 which suggests the step up in quality bowling is completely above his level, there is some hope there.

Definitely one to watch in the future but will take into account we have no Cummins, Hazelwood or spinner.
I agree, just very unusual to be selected without a FC ton.

I’m sure TDK can find some stats on how often this has happened at Test level.
Given the Shield started in 1892 I'd say any Australian test cricketer before then :-B :-B

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Spotted on Twitter:
Ben Duckett's last 24 innings across formats:

The Hundred: 0, 20, 7, 11, 11, 5, 49*, 20.
ODIs vs SA: 5, 14, 31.
ODIs vs NZ: 2, 1, 8.
The Ashes: 21, 28, 0, 15, 29, 4, 2, 34, 27, 42.
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am Bays wrote:
dedja wrote:
whufc wrote:I know all the jokes of a bloke who hasn't made a first-class century batting at 3 at test level but i like alot about Bethell.

At 23 seems to have a good temperament, plays on the edge of aggressive without being stupid, nice well rounded technique front foot and back foot and has that bit of swagger confidence most super elite sportsmen seem to have.

Has an ODI 100 which suggests the step up in quality bowling is completely above his level, there is some hope there.

Definitely one to watch in the future but will take into account we have no Cummins, Hazelwood or spinner.
I agree, just very unusual to be selected without a FC ton.

I’m sure TDK can find some stats on how often this has happened at Test level.
Given the Shield started in 1892 I'd say any Australian test cricketer before then :-B :-B

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amber_fluid wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:Cam Green would normally catch those with his eyes closed. He needs a bit of a spell, make runs and take wickets in the Sheffield Shield and enjoy the game.
And earn his spot back

Webster has to stay before Green
I think they like Greens bowling more for balance.
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am Bays wrote:
dedja wrote:
whufc wrote:I know all the jokes of a bloke who hasn't made a first-class century batting at 3 at test level but i like alot about Bethell.

At 23 seems to have a good temperament, plays on the edge of aggressive without being stupid, nice well rounded technique front foot and back foot and has that bit of swagger confidence most super elite sportsmen seem to have.

Has an ODI 100 which suggests the step up in quality bowling is completely above his level, there is some hope there.

Definitely one to watch in the future but will take into account we have no Cummins, Hazelwood or spinner.
I agree, just very unusual to be selected without a FC ton.

I’m sure TDK can find some stats on how often this has happened at Test level.
Given the Shield started in 1892 I'd say any Australian test cricketer before then :-B :-B

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Most Australian test cricketers at the time would have played a few matches before their first test that are still regarded as FC, i.e. even before the Shield existed, but there weren't too many centuries back in those days.

E.g. Charles Bannerman, star of the very First Test, had played 8 FC matches before that test, but recorded only 2 half-centuries and no centuries in those 8 matches.
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