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Booney wrote:I'm sorry, Optus, what?
Those affected need to bury Optus in the courts. Absolutely inexcusable to allow this failure of systems to happen
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Booney wrote:I'm sorry, Optus, what?
Those affected need to bury Optus in the courts. Absolutely inexcusable to allow this failure of systems to happen
Reported that an 8 week old is one of the deaths!!

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Optus obviously haven’t learned from previous incidents on how to manage, advise and report, so this is a continuation of those major issues.

To not notify anyone when they knew of the issues is right up there.

That said, no system is infallible, and whilst it would have obviously caused great distress to those trying to contact 000 during the outage, calls to other numbers apparently weren’t affected.

Without any knowledge of any of those that tried to call 000, including those who subsequently experienced a tragedy, it would have been an extremely distressing situation to be in. They would have had to try to contact others to raise the alarm, or even go to neighbours (if they had any nearby). Regardless, precious time would have been lost doing so.

Optus have some major systemic issues that need to be rectified, and they appear to be in no hurry to do so.

What should be the response? There are regulatory means to punish them, but they have been down that track before and it so far hasn’t changed the behaviour.

For the victims, yes, they have a legal avenue they can take, but such action is never going to bring anyone back.

All very sad, tragic and unfortunately, avoidable.
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I don't know if this is possible, but should calling 000 bypass all blocked networks until they reach a network that accepts their call?
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gadj1976 wrote:I don't know if this is possible, but should calling 000 bypass all blocked networks until they reach a network that accepts their call?
It should be noted that Telstra have also inadvertently blocked 000 calls on their network in the past, but that was an unplanned outage. By the very nature of networks, the carrier will need to cater for unrestricted access to 000 via whatever route it needs to take. To allow this requires appropriate network config, which is always susceptible to inadvertent error if the carrier is negligent, which clearly Optus was in this situation, as they have been previously.
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The missing 4yo Gus out Yunta way

Been almost a week, huge search by all and sundry with no result

Search now being called off.

To all the so- called social media experts with their opinions which we are all entitiled to, you really have no idea on how these searches evolve

Unfortunately we may never know with this one, very sad
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Very sad, does seem strange why they wouldnt give it a few more days, even at a small scale, to see if they can at least find the body
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locky801 wrote:The missing 4yo Gus out Yunta way

Been almost a week, huge search by all and sundry with no result

Search now being called off.

To all the so- called social media experts with their opinions which we are all entitiled to, you really have no idea on how these searches evolve

Unfortunately we may never know with this one, very sad
I admit I have no idea but, to a logical mind, there's something fishy in this event
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Jimmy_041 wrote:
locky801 wrote:The missing 4yo Gus out Yunta way

Been almost a week, huge search by all and sundry with no result

Search now being called off.

To all the so- called social media experts with their opinions which we are all entitiled to, you really have no idea on how these searches evolve

Unfortunately we may never know with this one, very sad
I admit I have no idea but, to a logical mind, there's something fishy in this event
Possibly sighting of him out Copley way a day or so ago at a servo by a truckie with him looking very scared with some unruly looking type, Police etc swamed the area however no results have been provided.

If it is the lad would give creedance that there is some involvement indoors, no way he would have reached the main road and been picked up and i do enough work in that area to know that people just dont drive off the beaten track for kms and then find someone wandering, let alone then abduct them
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I’ve been out that remote many times, I bet he has fallen down a wombat hole or something similar
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Brodlach wrote:I’ve been out that remote many times, I bet he has fallen down a woman hole or something similar
I have my doubts
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locky801 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:I’ve been out that remote many times, I bet he has fallen down a woman hole or something similar
I have my doubts
I sort of hope he has been taken so he has a chance to escape/be found but I also hope he hasn’t been taken so something bad doesn’t happen


I would have thought if someone had taken him they would have heard a car come on the property? Unless family is involved
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locky801 wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
locky801 wrote:The missing 4yo Gus out Yunta way

Been almost a week, huge search by all and sundry with no result

Search now being called off.

To all the so- called social media experts with their opinions which we are all entitiled to, you really have no idea on how these searches evolve

Unfortunately we may never know with this one, very sad
I admit I have no idea but, to a logical mind, there's something fishy in this event
Possibly sighting of him out Copley way a day or so ago at a servo by a truckie with him looking very scared with some unruly looking type, Police etc swamed the area however no results have been provided.

If it is the lad would give creedance that there is some involvement indoors, no way he would have reached the main road and been picked up and i do enough work in that area to know that people just dont drive off the beaten track for kms and then find someone wandering, let alone then abduct them
Yep couldn't agree more.

If his been abducted its 100% an inside job, we go to Yunta a little bit and there is no way you could have accidentally stumbled on the house. Also like you said zero chance his made the main road without being found given the resources they had on offer. It would have take him to day 2 or 3 to reach the main road.
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Dutchy wrote:Very sad, does seem strange why they wouldnt give it a few more days, even at a small scale, to see if they can at least find the body
I refuse to speculate, I always hold out for hope in these situations, I cried all the way to work the day Chloe was found, I must have watched that footage a thousand times.

All those people that shit-canned the mum and step-dad, all the scrutiny they came under when in the end they were just a couple of grieving parents wanting their daughter back.
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I only now hold out hope that anyone involved comes forward.
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Booney wrote:I only now hold out hope that anyone involved comes forward.
Its bloody sad knowing there could be a kid out there who is absolutely petrified, not knowing what is going on, not knowing what is going to happen to them, defenseless to protect themselves and undeserving of anything that is happening to them.

I know there is always a case of kids missing / abducted but this one being a bit closer to home makes you think more about it.
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I've driven that way a hundred times or more, I always used to joke if you want someone to go missing, that would certainly be the place.

That being said, every road off the Barrier Highway is dirt, so you'd see someone coming from miles away, especially from a homestead a fair way off the main road.

I know there's a few creek beds/rabbit holes/washouts etc. that could hide a person, but something about this just doesn't add up.
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Spring Gully Foods shuts its doors after nearly 80 years of trading

South Australia’s iconic and family-owned company, Spring Gully Foods, has gone into administration and stopped trading, with debts of nearly $4m.
James McPherson, of Meertens, was yesterday appointed administrator – more than a decade after the public last rallied to save the food company from collapsing.

After nearly 80 years in operation, Mr McPherson said he would look to sell the business assets, which could involve a takeover of the brand, but all staff had been let go.

“I had a look and the business was unable to continue trading, so when I stepped into it yesterday all employees were terminated,” Mr McPherson said.

“There were 22 full-time/part-time employees, of a total workforce of 34.”

Known for its jams, chutneys, sauces and pickles, Mr McPherson said there were a number of reasons as to why the company went into administration.

“The primary one was loss of contracts, which essentially resulted in significant loss of revenue and when that happens there was a corresponding fall in gross profit, so they’re struggling to meet overheads,” he said.

“It suffered from overseas competition, really. People are looking to buy cheaper.”

The company, led by Russell Webb, Kevin Webb and Tegan Hack, has outstanding debts of $3.8m owed to unsecured creditors, of which there is more than 1000, Mr McPherson said.

All company taxes and superannuation to employees were up-to-date, with annual leave and long service entitlements to be paid in the future, Mr McPherson said.

In 2013, the award-winning fourth-generation company went into voluntary administration with debts to unsecured creditors of $4.9m.

Unprecedented support from shoppers saw Spring Gully items fly off the shelves and the company lift its turnover to $1.5m one week following the announcement.

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Sounds like some major mismanagement.
Disappointing after how many locals supported them last time and they appeared to have righted the ship
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Jim05 wrote:Sounds like some major mismanagement.
Disappointing after how many locals supported them last time and they appeared to have righted the ship
I was just thinking the same thing, surely the first time is a major wake up call
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