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Booney wrote:
stan wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:
Booney wrote:West Coast get an end of first round comp pick in 2025 and 4 rookie list spots that can be kept for 2026, 2027 and 2028.
North had to trade their pick, same should apply to West Coast imo
People are worried about an extra pick probably in the mid 20's after all the FS, NGA and what not, I think you should be more concerned about the band 1 compo we will get for Allen.
You'll end up with 1, 2 (Allen) 15, 19 (Assistance), 20, 34, 52.

Could have been 8 for 27 and 15 for 34 if you didn't ( as Jim duly notes make a shit decision ) and take Hawthorns two picks over Carltons.

Then it would have been 1,2*,8,19*,20,27. You then have something to work with even in a poor draft.
My issue with Jim is not about the bad decisions, I mean they have been terrible and right there for all to see. But My issue is being accused of tanking when we were just shit. Like genuinely shit.

As for the compensation pick, it's 1 pick at the end of the first round, it's certainly not at the North Levels over 3 years or the Gold Coast levels.
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mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
Booney wrote:George Stevens, Geelong Cats
14 VFL matches this season, 3 goals
Averages 27.4 disposals, 8.1 clearances, 5.9 tackles

Across 14 VFL appearances this year, Stevens was frequently among Geelong's best players, averaging 27.4 disposals and 5.9 tackles per game, and amassing 30 or more disposals on six different occasions.

His work around stoppages was immense averaging 8.1 clearances per game, while also pushing forward to average 4.1 inside 50s per match.

The phenomenal season also saw Stevens earn his chance at the top level, making his AFL debut in Round 17 against Richmond.

The emerging on-baller made an impression right away, collecting 21 disposals, eight clearances, 14 score involvements and a goal on debut.


Bit like Fiorini from Gold Coast by the sounds of it.

Is this where I say “ but he’s better than Fiorini”?

Not sure why we would be targeting him unless he is quick.
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stan wrote:
Booney wrote:
stan wrote:
Armchair expert wrote: North had to trade their pick, same should apply to West Coast imo
People are worried about an extra pick probably in the mid 20's after all the FS, NGA and what not, I think you should be more concerned about the band 1 compo we will get for Allen.
You'll end up with 1, 2 (Allen) 15, 19 (Assistance), 20, 34, 52.

Could have been 8 for 27 and 15 for 34 if you didn't ( as Jim duly notes make a shit decision ) and take Hawthorns two picks over Carltons.

Then it would have been 1,2*,8,19*,20,27. You then have something to work with even in a poor draft.
My issue with Jim is not about the bad decisions, I mean they have been terrible and right there for all to see. But My issue is being accused of tanking when we were just shit. Like genuinely shit.

As for the compensation pick, it's 1 pick at the end of the first round, it's certainly not at the North Levels over 3 years or the Gold Coast levels.
I never said you were tanking games this year and it wasn’t meant to read like that.
It’s pretty clear that your list decisions have been done on purpose and very deliberately to ensure you bottom out in a forced “tank” over a number of seasons.
Even this year you have basically forced your skipper out and pretty poor form to deliberately not even offer him a contract
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So a systemic Tank?

The sort of "Tank" that got Dean Bailey rubbed out for a year?

**** I hate the AFL and it's hypocrisy
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Look at your sprinkling your happy dust in all the threads. :lol:
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am Bays wrote:So a systemic Tank?

The sort of "Tank" that got Dean Bailey rubbed out for a year?

**** I hate the AFL and it's hypocrisy
The best part is the AFL “created” and end of first round pick for them so they can trade that to Brisbane for Starcevich and the Lions can use that pick for another one of their top 5 academy kids whilst getting Allen and Draper for free from the bottom couple of sides
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Booney wrote:Look at your sprinkling your happy dust in all the threads. :lol:
Long off season with his Glenelg sulking
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Booney wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
Booney wrote:George Stevens, Geelong Cats
14 VFL matches this season, 3 goals
Averages 27.4 disposals, 8.1 clearances, 5.9 tackles

Across 14 VFL appearances this year, Stevens was frequently among Geelong's best players, averaging 27.4 disposals and 5.9 tackles per game, and amassing 30 or more disposals on six different occasions.

His work around stoppages was immense averaging 8.1 clearances per game, while also pushing forward to average 4.1 inside 50s per match.

The phenomenal season also saw Stevens earn his chance at the top level, making his AFL debut in Round 17 against Richmond.

The emerging on-baller made an impression right away, collecting 21 disposals, eight clearances, 14 score involvements and a goal on debut.


Bit like Fiorini from Gold Coast by the sounds of it.

Is this where I say “ but he’s better than Fiorini”?

Not sure why we would be targeting him unless he is quick.
Depth player
Wait, you mean clubs bring in depth players replacing blokes who have been on the list for years? Bugger me.
Pointless bringing in an ordinary depth player to replace an ordinary depth player
July 11th 2012....
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Brodlach wrote: Pointless bringing in an ordinary depth player to replace an ordinary depth player
No, it actually isn't. One edge or advantage is finding a diamond in the rough and every club is trying to do that.
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Jim05 wrote:
am Bays wrote:So a systemic Tank?

The sort of "Tank" that got Dean Bailey rubbed out for a year?

**** I hate the AFL and it's hypocrisy
The best part is the AFL “created” and end of first round pick for them so they can trade that to Brisbane for Starcevich and the Lions can use that pick for another one of their top 5 academy kids whilst getting Allen and Draper for free from the bottom couple of sides
And the best part is Starcevich is about to sign a four year contract at overs.

He's just one more head knock away from an AFL concussion payout....

He gets the $$$, Brisbane get the players and West coast get another talking point on how they've **** up another trade....
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Jim05 wrote:It’s pretty clear that your list decisions have been done on purpose and very deliberately to ensure you bottom out in a forced “tank” over a number of seasons.
Bingo. I'm opposed to priority picks in general but in this case it's a total joke.
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I don't understand the hate towards Brisbane for all the 'free' players they get.

Let's not forget, 4 clubs refused to bid on Levi Ashwood, before he was finally taken at Pick 5.

The clubs themselves are allowing Brisbane to save points for their bids.
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Trader wrote:I don't understand the hate towards Brisbane for all the 'free' players they get.

Let's not forget, 4 clubs refused to bid on Levi Ashwood, before he was finally taken at Pick 5.

The clubs themselves are allowing Brisbane to save points for their bids.
We're admonishing West Coast for poor list and draft management yet we're sinking the boot into Brisbane for theirs.

The problem with the Father / Son though is the inequity in eligibility and the advantages the Northern states get with their academies and I'm with the St Kilda boss on this one, enough is enough.
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Brodlach wrote:
Booney wrote:Look at your sprinkling your happy dust in all the threads. :lol:
Long off season with his Glenelg sulking
Ha ha I've just had three flags in seven years, not quite three flags in five but you get my drift, ;)

So, there's no sulking here just relishing the opportunity to sit back and reflect on those that are less fortunate

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Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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The Bedge wrote:
Brodlach wrote:How will Port supporters feel if we get Ah Chee, Petracca and Stevens from Geelong and they get Brodie, Wehr and Fiorini this offseason?
Standard Crom supporter - more worried about Port than their own mob. :D
I have a good mate who openly admits he hates Port more than he loves the Crows :lol:
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Booney wrote:
Trader wrote:I don't understand the hate towards Brisbane for all the 'free' players they get.

Let's not forget, 4 clubs refused to bid on Levi Ashwood, before he was finally taken at Pick 5.

The clubs themselves are allowing Brisbane to save points for their bids.
We're admonishing West Coast for poor list and draft management yet we're sinking the boot into Brisbane for theirs.

The problem with the Father / Son though is the inequity in eligibility and the advantages the Northern states get with their academies and I'm with the St Kilda boss on this one, enough is enough.
Exactly. We can't have it both ways.

Eligibility of Father/Son is interesting. VFL sides needing 100 games yet SA sides needing 300. But yes, hopefully that is resolved over time and once the AFL sides in SA have been around more than 30 years they can drop the link to the 5 SANFL clubs each and just have it at 100 games with the AFL side.

The northern states academies help no doubt, but the AFL needs someone investing in the kids in these northern states that otherwise would likely play rugby.
Also, its not like the southern states dont have their own rorts too. NGA, Cat B rookies, etc all get abused too.

The system isn't perfect, no doubt, but when the other clubs make it easier for Brisbane by not bidding at the right time, then it's poor form to turn around and complain that Brisbane have it easy, in my opinion.
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Trader wrote:I don't understand the hate towards Brisbane for all the 'free' players they get.

Let's not forget, 4 clubs refused to bid on Levi Ashwood, before he was finally taken at Pick 5.

The clubs themselves are allowing Brisbane to save points for their bids.
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am Bays wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
Booney wrote:Look at your sprinkling your happy dust in all the threads. :lol:
Long off season with his Glenelg sulking
Ha ha I've just had three flags in seven years, not quite three flags in five but you get my drift, ;)

So, there's no sulking here just relishing the opportunity to sit back and reflect on those that are less fortunate

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