No workplace do you tackle each other and pull them to the ground
So because the game is physical that means 'words' like racism and sexuality should be looked at different.
I would almost argue they have an outlet in their workplace for aggression compare that to a heated high level office discussion worth millions and it doesn't go one persons way, there only outlet is the words they use. Thousands of time i would love to be able to just tackle a customer or fellow worker. Instead i have to have a well disciplined, though out conversation being careful with the words i use.
Don’t take me down that path, that’s not what I was saying.
The discussion was that they shouldn’t be known as a “normal workplace “ as they’re not.
July 11th 2012....
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whufc wrote:We need to remember players have pushed the fact that the ground is their workplace... for any of us working in a setting with a strong HR team try and go into work today and either racially or sexually vilify a fellow work colleague.
Huzzaaa!
Those still operating in 1986 have no appreciation that the AFL field is exactly that, a work place and most modern workplaces, particularly ones with procedures established around codes of practice simply don't accept anything but inclusive language and zero tolerance of breaches.
My HR manual I roll out to new employees has an emphasis on these policies repeated several times within.
Interesting discussion I heard yesterday on the Sky Sports Sports show about this, current and former players saying that what they do is different to “normal work” as they tackle, hit hard and use tactics to get into people’s head space to gain advantage . None of that occurs in the normal workplace.
Great point! And maybe, just maybe, Quaynor wasn't offended but they know they can get Rankine out of the finals by dobbing him in, it's a ploy.
Dutchy wrote:Don't say it and there is no issue, its quite simple.
For someone earning close to $1m pa and with the average wage now nearly half a mil, you sign up to abide by your employers standards. Don't like it? Don't sign up for it, everyone has choices.
MW wrote:not trying to be smart so don't come after me when I ask this... If a player calls another player a f....t, does the punishment increase if they are gay?
MW wrote:not trying to be smart so don't come after me when I ask this... If a player calls another player a f....t, does the punishment increase if they are gay?
It should decrease!
Wait.
You're saying he should get less of a penalty, for using a derogative term, just because the player that was insulted is of homosexual origin?
MW wrote:not trying to be smart so don't come after me when I ask this... If a player calls another player a f....t, does the punishment increase if they are gay?
It should decrease!
Wait.
You're saying he should get less of a penalty, for using a derogative term, just because the player that was insulted is of homosexual origin?
Have I read this correctly?
Yes, now apply that to someone with indigenous heritage.
MW wrote:not trying to be smart so don't come after me when I ask this... If a player calls another player a f....t, does the punishment increase if they are gay?
It should decrease!
Wait.
You're saying he should get less of a penalty, for using a derogative term, just because the player that was insulted is of homosexual origin?
Have I read this correctly?
Yes, now apply that to someone with indigenous heritage.
MW wrote:not trying to be smart so don't come after me when I ask this... If a player calls another player a f....t, does the punishment increase if they are gay?
It should decrease!
Who’s gay here? The person saying it or receiving it?
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
With stories of Ken delaying his payment over the uncertainty of Covid you can 100% say his a man of huge integrity.....many other good stories around about his character as well.
I know he didn't get the final results and it's a results-based industry but too a point i can understand why they kept him as long as they did. Genuinely great people with the clubs best interest at hearts isn't as common as we would like or think it is.
whufc wrote:With stories of Ken delaying his payment over the uncertainty of Covid you can 100% say his a man of huge integrity.....many other good stories around about his character as well.
I know he didn't get the final results and it's a results-based industry but too a point i can understand why they kept him as long as they did. Genuinely great people with the clubs best interest at hearts isn't as common as we would like or think it is.
If he was in charge of an RSL or community based footy club I could understand your point
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
MW wrote:not trying to be smart so don't come after me when I ask this... If a player calls another player a f....t, does the punishment increase if they are gay?
whufc wrote:With stories of Ken delaying his payment over the uncertainty of Covid you can 100% say his a man of huge integrity.....many other good stories around about his character as well.
I know he didn't get the final results and it's a results-based industry but too a point i can understand why they kept him as long as they did. Genuinely great people with the clubs best interest at hearts isn't as common as we would like or think it is.
If he was in charge of an RSL or community based footy club I could understand your point
Yeah i dont disagree......
I'm sure though AFL clubs sit in their inner meetings talking about being more like a 'community club' more like a 'family' ect from that perspective they tried to be extremely loyal with the great character they had. Funnily enough us community clubs often try and do things more like an AFL club
Has obviously backfired on them though so they will have to cop their whack.