Tasmania Devils

[Booney]

All but confirmed, the Greens have publicly stated they'll support the Labor no confidence motion making the stadium a Tasmanian Tiger.

[Lightning McQueen]

All but confirmed, the Greens have publicly stated they'll support the Labor no confidence motion making the stadium a Tasmanian Tiger.

So they'll be based at Inceston?

[RB]

In the eyes of this mainlander, it would be a good outcome if Tasmania get a team without having to spend a gazillion dollars on a 26k-capacity stadium in Hobart, when there's a 19k-capacity stadium a couple of miles away.

I'd also like the AFL to understand that it's not their place to issue ridiculous ultimatums to state governments.

[Booney]

In the eyes of this mainlander, it would be a good outcome if Tasmania get a team without having to spend a gazillion dollars on a 26k-capacity stadium in Hobart, when there's a 19k-capacity stadium a couple of miles away.

I'd also like the AFL to understand that it's not their place to issue ridiculous ultimatums to state governments.

I'm not sure it's an ultimatum, the terms of entry were negotiated by both parties and the conditions stipulated a roofed stadium.

[Lightning McQueen]

In the eyes of this mainlander, it would be a good outcome if Tasmania get a team without having to spend a gazillion dollars on a 26k-capacity stadium in Hobart, when there's a 19k-capacity stadium a couple of miles away.

I'd also like the AFL to understand that it's not their place to issue ridiculous ultimatums to state governments.

They wouldn't fill the 19K stadium.

I'd prefer it if they waited and introduced two teams at the same time to keep the one team bye out of our game.

[wenchbarwer]

In the eyes of this mainlander, it would be a good outcome if Tasmania get a team without having to spend a gazillion dollars on a 26k-capacity stadium in Hobart, when there's a 19k-capacity stadium a couple of miles away.

I'd also like the AFL to understand that it's not their place to issue ridiculous ultimatums to state governments.

To channel one of the better AFL ad campaigns:

AFL House staying in their own lane? I'd like to see that!!

[Lightning McQueen]

In the eyes of this mainlander, it would be a good outcome if Tasmania get a team without having to spend a gazillion dollars on a 26k-capacity stadium in Hobart, when there's a 19k-capacity stadium a couple of miles away.

I'd also like the AFL to understand that it's not their place to issue ridiculous ultimatums to state governments.

I'm not sure it's an ultimatum, the terms of entry were negotiated by both parties and the conditions stipulated a roofed stadium.

Should've involved the BBL committee too.

[Jim05]

In the eyes of this mainlander, it would be a good outcome if Tasmania get a team without having to spend a gazillion dollars on a 26k-capacity stadium in Hobart, when there's a 19k-capacity stadium a couple of miles away.

I'd also like the AFL to understand that it's not their place to issue ridiculous ultimatums to state governments.

The AFL can make all the ultimatums it wants but the government also didn’t have to fold like a deck of cards.
I’ve maintained tight from the start that the AFL didn’t want Tassie in the comp. They made these silly ultimatums thinking it would fall over and reckon they were blindsided by how easy the Tassie government caved in

[stan]

Would be down to 50/50 that this team actually gets in the league in the end. Can't see a state govt commit to $1bn (with federal help no doubt) to a sports stadium. Would need a shift by the AFL to accept no roof.

I can't see the AFL rejecting the team. Whilst they will throw the blame on the Tassie government the AFL don't come out looking great in this either.

Then throw in the fact every year they don't have a 20th team they are losing money through the TV rights that an extra game would cause. So they need to get to 20 teams as soon as possible and the first step is getting a competitive 19th team.

Most likely outcome will be a tassie team to enter playing at both Hobart and Launceston with the AFL agreeing to some form of extension on a time frame for a new stadium.

Ive said from the start the AFL have no intention of having a team from Tassie, they know the conditions they have set will not be met. A 19th team creates massive issues and no benefits, a 20th team is a pipe dream imo.
At the end of the day a Tassie team will only strip money from their bottom line. It doesnt create any extra games it in fact takes away games that are big money spinners, at least one per week. Even if you look at from not so big matches, like instead of say Essendon playing Bulldogs a 2nd time they now play Tassie, 50k at marvel vs 18k if theyre lucky. It will hit the executives KPI's badly and their bonuses. Its a massive risk to go to 19 without a clear plan for 20. Their bonuses could be hit for 10 years, no one is signing up for that.
The AFL will not budge on the roof
Could this be why the AFL is holding off on making key appointments and or sackings. Waiting for Benny Gale to become available in 6 weeks time

I reckon your on the money here. The AFL know the stadium won't happen and it the put they want.

[dedja]

In the eyes of this mainlander, it would be a good outcome if Tasmania get a team without having to spend a gazillion dollars on a 26k-capacity stadium in Hobart, when there's a 19k-capacity stadium a couple of miles away.

I'd also like the AFL to understand that it's not their place to issue ridiculous ultimatums to state governments.

Why stop now? They’ve been doing it for years.

[Brodlach]

In the eyes of this mainlander, it would be a good outcome if Tasmania get a team without having to spend a gazillion dollars on a 26k-capacity stadium in Hobart, when there's a 19k-capacity stadium a couple of miles away.

I'd also like the AFL to understand that it's not their place to issue ridiculous ultimatums to state governments.

They are currently spending $100 million on the current stadium now too

[mighty_tiger_79]

In the eyes of this mainlander, it would be a good outcome if Tasmania get a team without having to spend a gazillion dollars on a 26k-capacity stadium in Hobart, when there's a 19k-capacity stadium a couple of miles away.

I'd also like the AFL to understand that it's not their place to issue ridiculous ultimatums to state governments.

They are currently spending $100 million on the current stadium now too

Drop in the ocean when considering total investment required

[Dutchy]

Can anyone explain to me why a roof on the new stadium was a non negotiable?

[dedja]

It’s been a clusterfaark from the day it was conceived, but with Eric Abetz’s involvement, this almost guarantees failure.

If I’m not mistaken, the AFL contribution is a paltry $15M.

A successful no-confidence motion in the Premier will result in an election.

#shambles

[RB]

In the eyes of this mainlander, it would be a good outcome if Tasmania get a team without having to spend a gazillion dollars on a 26k-capacity stadium in Hobart, when there's a 19k-capacity stadium a couple of miles away.

I'd also like the AFL to understand that it's not their place to issue ridiculous ultimatums to state governments.

I'm not sure it's an ultimatum, the terms of entry were negotiated by both parties and the conditions stipulated a roofed stadium.

You're correct - ultimatum was the wrong word.

Imposing overly-strenuous conditions is perhaps a better way of phrasing it, noting that as someone pointed out, the government folding like a deck of cards doesn't help.

The AFL have received enough public money as it is.

[dedja]

Not to mention the AFL’s not for profit status …

[RB]

In the eyes of this mainlander, it would be a good outcome if Tasmania get a team without having to spend a gazillion dollars on a 26k-capacity stadium in Hobart, when there's a 19k-capacity stadium a couple of miles away.

I'd also like the AFL to understand that it's not their place to issue ridiculous ultimatums to state governments.

They are currently spending $100 million on the current stadium now too

Drop in the ocean when considering total investment required

How much investment do you think is required?

[Brodlach]

In the eyes of this mainlander, it would be a good outcome if Tasmania get a team without having to spend a gazillion dollars on a 26k-capacity stadium in Hobart, when there's a 19k-capacity stadium a couple of miles away.

I'd also like the AFL to understand that it's not their place to issue ridiculous ultimatums to state governments.

They are currently spending $100 million on the current stadium now too

Drop in the ocean when considering total investment required

How much investment do you think is required?

My point was why spend the $100 million if they are not going to play there much longer

[mots02]

Can anyone explain to me why a roof on the new stadium was a non negotiable?

Particularly when the roof rules out international cricket being played there.

A nice stadium, completely surrounded by grandstands keeps the bulk of the weather out… particularly with the roof over hangs these days.

They have bloody open air stadiums in Europe and North America playing in the snow.

Dumb ultimatum to have the roof.

[Lightning McQueen]

Can anyone explain to me why a roof on the new stadium was a non negotiable?

The neighbours tree drops a lot of leaves.