PDCA

[Purple Warrior]

Central United should be more concerned with Perna-Hague going for 1/100 off 6 overs

[whufc]

I'm led to believe the Hazard cricket team makes up a fair portion of what in winter is Adelaide amateur soccer team Ghan United. If true that side has been a fairly large issue for the SAASL including a suspension from competition as a club at one point.

Dunno.. but I was informed by one of our Afghan juniors that "Hazara" represents a tribal group of Afghanistan - like Pashtun.

Having said that, not fair to throw a blanket over a whole group, or paint everyone with the same brush - there are dickheads in every ethnicity, country, background, walk of life - let's also not forget there is another "Hazara" cricket side playing in Grade 1 who have nothing to do with this side, but have the same cultural background, and doesn't seem like there have been any issues with them.

Yeah and sorry i didn't mean the ethnicity as a whole but I'm led to believe some of the cricketers who are suspended are blokes that actually are also suspended long term from soccer.

[OKC!]

From what i have been told, there was an altercation on the field and the Captain (Fenwick) went off the field and spoke at length to the opposition about calming the situation down. There was apparent threats of a physical and sexual abuse to the CU side about players daughters/wifes/partners.

This is what i have been told by a player at CU.

I have been told a very similar story.

However, none of this if a language barrier or an ethnicity issue. Also words should never incite violence, however with my personal experiences within PDCA inaction has created an environment where you do something about it yourself because following the right channels lead to deaf ears.

Look if someone told me they were gonna r*pe my partner/mother id probably respond in the same way.

As i said, i feel for CU having to put up with that kinda stuff, but to say we need to stamp out other languages is a massive over-reaction. As Bedge said, if ya sledging me in another language its better, I can't understand what you are saying.

[OKC!]

Central United should be more concerned with Perna-Hague going for 1/100 off 6 overs

That whole innings is just unreal. The fact they didn't bat the 40 out either.

[The Bedge]

Well I for one am proud of Jordy registering his first century.. even if it was bowling.

[OKC!]

Well I for one am proud of Jordy registering his first century.. even if it was bowling.

Calm down if you bowled 2 more overs last time you played there you would have got the 100 too

[Brodlach]

The comment “it’s in our culture “ is something I hear at my work every few days so I do think that is becoming more prevalent


It’s generally used when people want more than they are entitled to or don’t want to pay for

[Lightning McQueen]

I'm led to believe the Hazard cricket team makes up a fair portion of what in winter is Adelaide amateur soccer team Ghan United. If true that side has been a fairly large issue for the SAASL including a suspension from competition as a club at one point.

Dunno.. but I was informed by one of our Afghan juniors that "Hazara" represents a tribal group of Afghanistan - like Pashtun.

Having said that, not fair to throw a blanket over a whole group, or paint everyone with the same brush - there are dickheads in every ethnicity, country, background, walk of life - let's also not forget there is another "Hazara" cricket side playing in Grade 1 who have nothing to do with this side, but have the same cultural background, and doesn't seem like there have been any issues with them.

I think you're on the money, my understanding is that "Hazara" is a group from Central Afghanistan.

As you have stated, I sat with the Grade 1 group while they batted and they were a great bunch, very enthusiastic and yeah, they spoke their own lingo most of the time but spoke English when conversing with me.

[Lightning McQueen]

Well I for one am proud of Jordy registering his first century.. even if it was bowling.

At least he got some redemption with the bat.

[whufc]

Well I for one am proud of Jordy registering his first century.. even if it was bowling.

At least he got some redemption with the bat.

Surprised they knew the language of smitty

[BenchedEagle]

Poor letter that just needed to be a simple request.

‘Will PDCA consider a bylaw that ensures the common language (English) is spoken when scoring, umpiring and during captain communications. We believe this has contributed to some issues between both our clubs.

What language they speak to each other and in field is up to them, like honestly can u imagine asking India to speak English if thing’s get heated in a test match. It would be an absolute scandal.

[The Bedge]

Not the worst By-Law but laughable still.

Provide one example of when two captains have come together for conversation and either hasn’t conversed to the other in English… or similarly where two scorers from opposing sides having confirmed with each other in English.

If two players from the same side score; then equally who cares what language they speak.

[BenchedEagle]

Communications around and to each respective captain during a dispute or questioning of a decision etc. It escalates real quick when the captains need to come together and both sides team mates are chipping in their 2c and mis-understand each other.

[BenchedEagle]

Seen this 1st hand many times in Lo1 over last few years.

Also on scoring what they are referring to is Units have had issues in close games, when you need the scorers full attention on the scorebook, yet one is speaking another language to players around the table about the scorebook.

It gets stressful for some who aren’t as confident on the book as some of us who have done it a million times.

[The Bedge]

I Should be careful, because last time I posted a controversial opinion around events / clubs on this site I was suspended.

Those events not only saw me sit out games, it ultimately, directly and forever changed long term friendships I had - some almost 20yrs - and I believe was a key factor in why my club is floundering on life support currently.

It hurts to look back and think Enfield was flying at one stage - strong juniors, women, men.. playing regular finals, lots of sides, developments happening - and to now see the club teetering on the brink of existence.

PDCA for the most part - and the old school clubs within, failed to change and adapt.. and the association itself failed to set standard and hold people / clubs to account.

Those who don’t like change, cause the most noise…
Equally those who call out behaviour like racism / discrimination / inequality are also castrated.

Our clubs downfall came off the back of a run out not given by a first year player in a T20 match that was already decided.. then escalated into some thing greater and carried on into the next week… a fight broke out the week after, a player who ran on the field to get involved from an oppo received a light penalty compared to others and his offence.. I copped unnecessary abuse and crap and tried to smooth it over, but in the end cracked - dealing with life / work / cricket and my own personal issues at the time called the club racist rednecks.

I was duly suspended, and I apologised - not for a softer penalty - but because I was angry at the time and I lashed out, and I knew I had hurt people I cared about and valued.. and I regretted my actions.

Few weeks later we play in a GF, I cop banter which was fair, then a racist comment is made from the same club towards our players - this was the final straw for some of our players and their first seasons experience of the comp.. we pursued “justice” through the correct channels, and ultimately the final meeting, I said all I want is an apology for the misunderstanding to our players and that no malice was intended - and the other clubs president could not even afford our club and members that.

The issue isn’t solely with culturally & linguistically diverse clubs - it’s with clubs that lack diversity and struggle to adapt to the change.

It’s just cricket.. why can’t we just share that experience and enjoy it together regardless of our backgrounds?

[The Bedge]

Seen this 1st hand many times in Lo1 over last few years.

Also on scoring what they are referring to is Units have had issues in close games, when you need the scorers full attention on the scorebook, yet one is speaking another language to players around the table about the scorebook.

It gets stressful for some who aren’t as confident on the book as some of us who have done it a million times.

Easy solution - get with the times - live score.

If I can live score matches whilst playing - batting, bowling or fielding - then surely clubs can do it.. in fact I would give umpires the power and make them live score at the same time.

I did it last year (umpiring) during an LO final, it’s not bloody hard

[The Bedge]

Moving on.. we rag on a lot of things about the association and its clubs.. but what happens when the day comes that these clubs break away and form their own competition?

They already successfully run winter T20 comps featuring large amount of players from clubs within PDCA.

If someone had the balls to form a break away comp - I fear it would spell the death of PDCA.

[whufc]

Not the worst By-Law but laughable still.

Provide one example of when two captains have come together for conversation and either hasn’t conversed to the other in English… or similarly where two scorers from opposing sides having confirmed with each other in English.

If two players from the same side score; then equally who cares what language they speak.

Yeah im not sure its legal to have a by-law of that nature when in public to be honest which Council owned land is.

[whufc]

Moving on.. we rag on a lot of things about the association and its clubs.. but what happens when the day comes that these clubs break away and form their own competition?

They already successfully run winter T20 comps featuring large amount of players from clubs within PDCA.

If someone had the balls to form a break away comp - I fear it would spell the death of PDCA.

There is probably some money to be made in an extremely well run/ organized / consistent cricket comp.

[Observer55]

Moving on.. we rag on a lot of things about the association and its clubs.. but what happens when the day comes that these clubs break away and form their own competition?

They already successfully run winter T20 comps featuring large amount of players from clubs within PDCA.

If someone had the balls to form a break away comp - I fear it would spell the death of PDCA.

I know there are a few ‘established’ teams sniffing at alternative comps over the last few months, looking at viable alternative options. The saving grace for PDCA at the minute is there is no genuine alternative option.

Barossa and Light possibly for a small handful of clubs, Adelaide Turf if you can find $100k to drop a pitch in and $55k for a curator each year. Adelaide Suburban if you’re looking to play the other end of town…