Great Southern Football League

[field of dreams]

The clubs were all made fully aware of this new system coming in and given a year’s reprieve to prepare. If clubs went out and recruited points players rather than promoting their successful Reserves and Senior Colts to A Grade that is their own issue made by themselves. If they have to lose a player or play colts for -1 then so be it.
Granting discretionary points instead is a huge kick in the guts to the other 7 clubs.
Anyone that thinks it is reasonable that the clubs that 3 clubs have played in a combined 14 of 18 grand finals across the A Grade, Reserves, and Senior Colts over the last 3 years should be granted handouts over the other 7 is delusional.


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[Cheap Seats]

I was forwarded a copy of the email. Very typical it comes from Victor.
Is the expectation that the clubs should delist points players?? Victor claim they suffered a bigger points shock than McLaren and Willunga, didn’t want to mention Myponga which is bigger. The way I see it;
Pongy have 8 points listed for 2025 from players that played this year. 2 points applied to 2024 players means they played with 6 as allocated. Only way they meet 6 with out the 2 discretionary is to offload one of the players that joined the club this year??
McLaren and Willunga have points players in the 2’s and the gsfl approach makes it harder to use the 2 as ‘extras’. McLaren played with 2 points in the prelim?? Jarrett got dropped.
Getting off the bottom and competing for flags is not a 1, 2, 3 year process. Anyone forget where Myponga were 5 years ago?? Or Victor Harbor?? Or McLaren 10 years ago? Eagles and Mudlarks won flags for the first time in 20 plus years for eagles in 2022 and Pongy 40 years this year. If Victor won would have been first for 25. The system as it existed worked if you look at that.
As far as reserves and juniors, go back in time 5 years ago when Pongy and Yank senior colts were combined?? People forget so quick and jump on any team who has a bit of success after hard work.
The bit that made me laugh the most was when it said that discretionary points are for small population, lack of success or geography and says that these clubs don’t meet any of these criteria… I wonder if they checked the population of Myponga compared with Victor…. 393 in 2016 compared with
14,655 same census. What constitutes qualifying for small population? 393 must be to many.
I just don’t get why the Roos have to carry on like they do. All these ‘resignings’ of local lads is laughable. Next thing McLaren will be promoting Muff or Reg Moyle as resignings!! Today they congratulated 9 players for being in Top 25 coaches mvp. First 25 players listed has 4 of them. The number of equal placed makes it seem so much more. There’s 50 players on the list published. Don’t throw stones.
That being said they’ve done well keeping Heaslip and co. Ross was chased hard by Kangarilla and no doubt Heaslip would have received some big offers elsewhere!! They’ll be banking on more games from Gibbs and Curran to sign on to try and get the flag on their home deck. Heard mclaren have a couple of big signings all but done. Willunga have signed big Daniel Nobes which will straighten them up. Ebay have a couple of good signings which will help them progress further and Pongy will be desperate to get Hayden Sampson across the line.
Creek are sounding out coaches I hear. Will be interesting to see what happens there. Ben Simounds has gone to Keith with Marc Elliot leaving to. Big losses for them. GPE have signed a couple of good ones hopefully they can get a few more.

Conveniently leaving out SELLICKS population growth there, or isn't that helpful for your ridiculous reasoning? Roughly 3200?

I'd also heard about the email, but the impression I have been given (by my club) is it was written by a Victor person on behalf of the 7 other clubs, and all were invited to add commentary to the email, with club specific reasoning to re-enforce their disapproval.

Also the bit you wrote about McLaren having a COUPLE BIG SIGNINGS, is one of the exact reasons the other clubs think this is crazy. Without extra points or points off players they would not & should not be able to fit 2 new ones in. Willunga baffles me as I went through most of their last half of the year and most weeks were only using 2 points on one player anyway, so why would they need extra.

It all comes down to 3 clubs not willing to accept an SANFL points change15-18 months in the making & having known about it because they might actually have to go to the well like a few others have. They are all geographically advantaged, they are all successful at the 3 highest levels (by the way McLaren won 2 Junior Colts premierships, thats right 2 one in GSFL & one in SFL this year) McLaren have over 4.7K Population combined (remember they cracked it about McLaren Flat being forgotten last year) Willunga have around 2.8K and Mypoga SELLICKS have 3.5K. All 3 are extremely well run and managed and dont need the help from the GSFL who should know better then help the 3 most successful clubs of the last 3-4 years, over the rest of the competition.

[mutton cove]

Gone are the day's when it was crystal clear what points you would get and knew you had no chance of getting exemptions under Tonks & Kevin. Then we had the points fiasco with Compass, it's been down hill since then.

[Cheap Seats]

Butcher (as an example so settle down Pongy people) is rumoured to be leaving, along with a few others, so..... if these exemptions are granted and allocated to players before the opening of contracts, and not given time to fully understand IN's & OUT's then all it does is open the window to recruit a replacement. (as you could be sure that clubs are not going to allocate the -1 to a player they aren't certain is staying) & It wont be used for it's intended purpose / explanation which is to retain existing players.

[Local GSFL Man]

something funny is up at the creek, they make murgatroed football director and he tells Perry he's not required to coach next season and appoints Galbraith and now both are gone

anyone one want to enlighten me on this matter

[jackpot jim]

something funny is up at the creek, they make murgatroed football director and he tells Perry he's not required to coach next season and appoints Galbraith and now both are gone

anyone one want to enlighten me on this matter

I probably know as much as you
Murgs good mates with Galbraith from the time he spent at Compass
For some reason he thought going down the track of a NON playing coach would improve the Creek
Convenient that his mate Galbraith was willing to do it.
Perrey was told the Club wanted to go with a NON playing coach and wouldn't be reappointed.
Galbraith appointed on the recommendation of Murgs.

Heard there was a lot of reservations about him being appointed by certain players and other knowledgeable people close to the Club but the committee backed the recommendation of their football director in.
After 12 months it seems those reservations from the doubters proved to be correct and seems the committee put their hand up and admitted they got it wrong and terminated Galbraiths' contract in the best interests of the Club going forward. With that it appears Murgatroyd resigned which wouldn't have come as a surprise.

The whole situation is far from ideal but sometimes things just don't work out despite good intentions.
Despite this situation i sense the Hawks will quickly regroup and will be around the mark in coming seasons.

[field of dreams]

McLaren:
Jarrett 2
Venning 2
McMahon 2
All A graders = 6

Habib 2 (B grader)
Cooper 2 (DNP in 24, 23 was div7 Res)

So 6 points less 2 =4, with 6 available

Picked up 5 players worth 15 points in 2024. Fully aware of the new system coming in.
Still ask for discretionary points…granted.
Announce 2 x 3 point players for 2025.
Talk about taking the piss.


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McLaren:
Jarrett 2
Venning 2
McMahon 2
All A graders = 6

Habib 2 (B grader)
Cooper 2 (DNP in 24, 23 was div7 Res)

So 6 points less 2 =4, with 6 available

Picked up 5 players worth 15 points in 2024. Fully aware of the new system coming in.
Still ask for discretionary points…granted.
Announce 2 x 3 point players for 2025.
Talk about taking the piss.


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Then Jarrett was dropped for their last final,

So what McLaren have done is realize they @#$% up with Jarrett as he's not as good as they hoped, said they need points to keep him even though they don't based on what could be considered A graders at this level on their 2024 list, get in a pair that are heavily linked to one another, and talking to multiple clubs as a pair, which they couldn't have afforded (points wise) without the concessions and they will cut Jarrett loose late in the pre-season or early in season. So we're giving out concessions for poor list management now?

Watch out for Myponga to do similar with their "reduction allocation", as I have heard it's Highly likely that Butcher is gone, which means they only had Cooper, Schillabeer and Wilkings left from their A Grade on points totaling 7, which is completely manageable without the concession.

Neither clearly had no reason for concessions based on "Player retention" (Willunga dont either) Its a disgrace and calls into question the league's ongoing integrity. If they couldn't see what we could all see weeks ago, then maybe some "Up the chain" decisions need to be discussed by the clubs themselves, after all the league is there for the clubs.

Here's an idea, if these clubs recruit pointed players for the 2025 season, they lose the -2 concession immediately as they were for "Player retention". If they go in with the same players allocated points from 2024, they can have the -2 for retention purposes. Or better still just revoke the decision & go back to the SANFL model without any concession

[wenchbarwer]

Was that Jarrett from Aldinga? If so, he's certainly not much chop...

[DOC]

Cameron Jarrett. Does kick a lot of goals.

[wenchbarwer]

Cameron Jarrett. Does kick a lot of goals.

I was thinking of his brother, my bad

[DOC]

Mitchell. Playing down-in Mount Gambier.

[wenchbarwer]

Mitchell. Playing down-in Mount Gambier.

Yeah, I just googled

Cameron certainly has ability, especially going forward

[field of dreams]

Apparently the SFL has given every club an extra point….


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[wenchbarwer]

Apparently the SFL has given every club an extra point….


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Sponsored by Ryan Fitzgerald?

You wouldn't know which clubs have points anyway, the league doesn't show them on PlayHQ, which already is dodgy enough.

[field of dreams]

Here's an idea, if these clubs recruit pointed players for the 2025 season, they lose the -2 concession immediately as they were for "Player retention". If they go in with the same players allocated points from 2024, they can have the -2 for retention purposes. Or better still just revoke the decision & go back to the SANFL model without any concession

Surely the GSFL exec cannot be happy. McLaren have made them look bloody silly.


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[Cheap Seats]

Here's an idea, if these clubs recruit pointed players for the 2025 season, they lose the -2 concession immediately as they were for "Player retention". If they go in with the same players allocated points from 2024, they can have the -2 for retention purposes. Or better still just revoke the decision & go back to the SANFL model without any concession

Surely the GSFL exec cannot be happy. McLaren have made them look bloody silly.


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You spoke about Jungle Drums earlier FOD, I'm hearing they've got very loud with a number of clubs adding to the email sent earlier voicing their disapproval and the questions have started about who gave the GSFL the authority to form the supposed committee that made these decisions (I'm hearing it was the 3 exec), without having any input from the clubs as to who sat on it in the first place.
Many are now calling for a special meeting to review not only the decision, but how this committee could be formed with ZERO consultation.

[field of dreams]

Hardly surprising.

Apparently the applications for discretionary points and the resulting -1 x 2 for existing players granted were based on the clubs in question having points “shock” with the extra effect of the new system (despite having known about it for a year!) as it may mean having to lose existing players, or make them play Bs.

McLaren have shown that was all an absolute crock of sh1t with their big new players announcements.

Do we now await the announcements from Willunga or Myponga/Sellicks!?

I believe these clubs are to be praised for their achievements in working hard and being so successful in both junior and senior ranks- their recent records are all fantastic….

….but now when you’ve picked up a pile of points players in 2024 (and in some cases played them in the Bs) and using them as a reason to get points (/reductions) for 2025 is laughable.

As per my earlier post with individual players listed, pongy are the only ones who could legitimately say they couldn’t play their 2024 A grade points players in 2025 without playing a SC (even though 3 of those 4 were recruited in 2024….). That reason is ridiculous for McLaren and even more so Willunga.


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[Cheap Seats]

Hardly surprising.

Apparently the applications for discretionary points and the resulting -1 x 2 for existing players granted were based on the clubs in question having points “shock” with the extra effect of the new system (despite having known about it for a year!) as it may mean having to lose existing players, or make them play Bs.

McLaren have shown that was all an absolute crock of sh1t with their big new players announcements.

Do we now await the announcements from Willunga or Myponga/Sellicks!?

I believe these clubs are to be praised for their achievements in working hard and being so successful in both junior and senior ranks- their recent records are all fantastic….

….but now when you’ve picked up a pile of points players in 2024 (and in some cases played them in the Bs) and using them as a reason to get points (/reductions) for 2025 is laughable.

As per my earlier post with individual players listed, pongy are the only ones who could legitimately say they couldn’t play their 2024 A grade points players in 2025 without playing a SC (even though 3 of those 4 were recruited in 2024….). That reason is ridiculous for McLaren and even more so Willunga.


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Time for the clubs to Stand up & be heard

[Local GSFL Man]

Myponga

In:

Out: Ben Kennedy, Sam Kennedy, Levi Proude, Ryan Kelly, Harrison cock

Victor Harbor

In:

Out: Jesse McKinnon

Encounter Bay

In: James Brown, Brad Kreuger, Will Marshall, Nick Marshall, Jayden white, Mitch Davis, Bailey Coleman-oaks

Out:

Mclaren

In: Josh Vandermeer, Matt Raitt

Out:

Langhorne creek

In:

Out: Peter Galbraith

Mount Compass

IN: Nathan Shultz, Shane Heatly, Braden Hooper

Out:

Strathalbyn

IN: Liam Stirling, Liam Newton, Jordan Kenny, Declan Gladigau

Out: Jordy hall, Ben simons, Marc Elliot, cooper Machin, Jackson Machin

Willunga

In: Dan Nobles

Out:

Yankailla

In: Cameron Ker, Ryan Fisher

Out

Goolwa

In: Caleb pope, Jayden Davis, Riley davis, Ethan Cinc, Noah Ramsaway, Nye Bottrof

Out: