2024 AFL Silly Season

[The Bedge]

This is the "problem" the AFL have, for all the equalisation rules the AFL creates trade week is the one period where it seems the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

Not really - it's still give and take, it's not like the "rich" clubs are just getting all the top end talent and not having to part ways with something, or that the other club isn't compensated.

[Zelezny Chucks]

The Father Son and Academy rorts are the biggest issue with equalisation, if clubs had to make trades to get picks in the position those players were likely to get taken then the wealth gets spread around the comp as it is they just load up with picks they never wanted to use anyway and get multiple high end talent for nothing.

If a club thinks a father son is worth it they will find a way to make it happen, if they aren't then they go to whoever takes them. Name another professional sport in the world with a draft that allows this to happen?

[Booney]

Has it been rectified.
-Daniels could barely make the bulldogs side and they weren't renowned for their defensive strength. He was a premiership player 8 years ago and an AA 4 years ago.....he isn't that bloke now.
-Parker was good when he was on the park but played 10 games for the year and he isn't getting any younger.
-Darling enough said.

Daniel is an upgrade, he'll add some quality to the back half and allow Sheezel to move from half back into the middle, but he's 29 next year and his best footy isn't ahead of him.
Parker played 10 games because he broke an arm early ( nothing to do with age ) and then copped weeks for a bump in the VFL. He turns 32 next week and he's topping up his super.
Darling, well, he's much maligned but he'll help Larkey by taking some attention of him and will help an undersized forward line.

Ultimately North get played at the trade table all the time and every club knows it, they don't land the ones they want and this is another year of recycling players hoping to add to their depth. They've got some really talented kids but nobody wants to go there unless it's out of desperation. You can't tell me any of the above 3 did it to better their careers, only their superannuation.

Success attracts the players in demand, until we start winning again consistently, we’re going to be up against it. We had no issue landing Higgins, Waite & Dal Santo a decade ago when we were playing finals…

I agree entirely, but that's the problem, will the players you keep getting in actually get you to that point? Hopefully, for your sake, this is a group to get you to that 6-8 wins and make you look more attractive.

[Armchair expert]

Lions will get Levi Ashcroft with a combination of picks 27, 34, 42, 43, 49, 60, 66

Whoever bids on Ashcroft should get those picks, say North at pick 2 get 27,34,42,60 and North get the next clean Selection 3


Does that make it fairer?

[Lightning McQueen]

Lions will get Levi Ashcroft with a combination of picks 27, 34, 42, 43, 49, 60, 66

Whoever bids on Ashcroft should get those picks, say North at pick 2 get 27,34,42,60 and North get the next clean Selection 3


Does that make it fairer?

Bingo!

[Brodlach]

Lions will get Levi Ashcroft with a combination of picks 27, 34, 42, 43, 49, 60, 66

Whoever bids on Ashcroft should get those picks, say North at pick 2 get 27,34,42,60 and North get the next clean Selection 3


Does that make it fairer?

Never thought I’d say this to you.


That’s a great idea! Maybe not all but a portion, only issue is list spots.

[Booney]

Lions will get Levi Ashcroft with a combination of picks 27, 34, 42, 43, 49, 60, 66
Whoever bids on Ashcroft should get those picks, say North at pick 2 get 27,34,42,60 and North get the next clean Selection 3
Does that make it fairer?

Never thought I’d say this to you.
That’s a great idea! Maybe not all but a portion, only issue is list spots.

[tigerpie]

How do you think your club went?

Adelaide was pretty good for a change. Hopefully somehow can get a ruck in the draft or rookie draft. Two definite starting 22 and Peatling improves the list instantly. Then add pick 4 midfielder.

If someone would trade our 3 F3 for a this year round 2 and we lobbed Dodson the ruck that would be the cherry.

8/10.

Neale-Bullen is an upgrade on McHenry and Murphy and Cumming is an upgrade on Nankervis, Parnell, Hammill and Milera who must have question marks over his body. Peatling is an upgrade on the wingers mentioned above too so while there's no star power coming in it's put 3 players into the top 25 on the list and pushed 3 out the bottom and it's cost next to nothing.

Certainly a win in that sense. Pick 4 will be interesting, wonder if they split it with Richmond for a couple of first rounders?

You put a fit and focused Milera in that team and Adelaide could do anything.
He's an elite player that's had a terrible run of bad luck.
I don't mind Nankervis either. Certainly not in Mileras class but I reckon he can play.

[wenchbarwer]

You put a fit and focused Milera in that team and Adelaide could do anything.
He's an elite player that's had a terrible run of bad luck.
I don't mind Nankervis either. Certainly not in Mileras class but I reckon he can play.

He'll be doing well to come back from a ruptured patella tendon to hit the levels he has previously, it's a bastard of an injury.

[Brodlach]

If we are playing Milera we are not winning games

[Booney]

You put a fit and focused Milera in that team and Adelaide could do anything.
He's an elite player that's had a terrible run of bad luck.
I don't mind Nankervis either. Certainly not in Mileras class but I reckon he can play.

He'll be doing well to come back from a ruptured patella tendon to hit the levels he has previously, it's a bastard of an injury.

Done it twice?

[The Bedge]

You put a fit and focused Milera in that team and Adelaide could do anything.
He's an elite player that's had a terrible run of bad luck.
I don't mind Nankervis either. Certainly not in Mileras class but I reckon he can play.

He'll be doing well to come back from a ruptured patella tendon to hit the levels he has previously, it's a bastard of an injury.

Done it twice?

Different leg

[wenchbarwer]

If we are playing Milera we are not winning games

I reckon he'll go down as one of the great "what-ifs" of the Adelaide footy club, had a shocking run with injury.

[Brodlach]

If we are playing Milera we are not winning games

I reckon he'll go down as one of the great "what-ifs" of the Adelaide footy club, had a shocking run with injury.

Said it many times on here, never been a fan even before he was drafted

[Trader]

Lions will get Levi Ashcroft with a combination of picks 27, 34, 42, 43, 49, 60, 66

Whoever bids on Ashcroft should get those picks, say North at pick 2 get 27,34,42,60 and North get the next clean Selection 3


Does that make it fairer?

This doesn't work (despite LM, Booney and Broad all agreeing with it).

Say ashcroft is a 'natural' pick 2.
North bid on him, and lions match.
North now get pick 3, plus a pick 2 worth of additional picks.

So why has north gone from 2500 draft points (pick 2), to 4500 worth of draft points (pick 3 plus the 25000 in matching picks)?

What will actually happen now is pick 1 is used, as they are only risking 500 points in 'over-bidding', knowing that if the lions match, they'll gain a further 2500 points worth of picks (by picking up pick 2, and 3000 points in matched picks).

Your system will lead to clubs overbidding in the hope that they effectively double their own draft hand.

The premise of the system works, ie: let the player get bid on where they naturally would go, and then clubs can match.
If you don't like the bundling of points you can put a cap on how far behind your first pick can be. IE: bring in a rule that says the 'main' part of the matching must be from the same round of picks, or something like that.
Or get rid of father son altogether.

But to say an unrelated club gets an increased draft hand seems crazy to me.

[Dutchy]

So its OK to chase a 27yo AA defender, but when you actually land a 28yo AA defender its topping up their super?

Safooty logic

[Dutchy]

The Father Son and Academy rorts are the biggest issue with equalisation, if clubs had to make trades to get picks in the position those players were likely to get taken then the wealth gets spread around the comp as it is they just load up with picks they never wanted to use anyway and get multiple high end talent for nothing.

If a club thinks a father son is worth it they will find a way to make it happen, if they aren't then they go to whoever takes them. Name another professional sport in the world with a draft that allows this to happen?

Nick Blakey is the biggest rort of all time, enters the Sydney academy simply because his Dad (a 359 game Roos legend) is an assistant coach at the time, not born in NSW, just pure luck of timing.

[wenchbarwer]

The Father Son and Academy rorts are the biggest issue with equalisation, if clubs had to make trades to get picks in the position those players were likely to get taken then the wealth gets spread around the comp as it is they just load up with picks they never wanted to use anyway and get multiple high end talent for nothing.

If a club thinks a father son is worth it they will find a way to make it happen, if they aren't then they go to whoever takes them. Name another professional sport in the world with a draft that allows this to happen?

Nick Blakey is the biggest rort of all time, enters the Sydney academy simply because his Dad (a 359 game Roos legend) is an assistant coach at the time, not born in NSW, just pure luck of timing.

Was also eligible for Brisbane & North under F/S

[Lightning McQueen]

Lions will get Levi Ashcroft with a combination of picks 27, 34, 42, 43, 49, 60, 66

Whoever bids on Ashcroft should get those picks, say North at pick 2 get 27,34,42,60 and North get the next clean Selection 3


Does that make it fairer?

This doesn't work (despite LM, Booney and Broad all agreeing with it).

Say ashcroft is a 'natural' pick 2.
North bid on him, and lions match.
North now get pick 3, plus a pick 2 worth of additional picks.

So why has north gone from 2500 draft points (pick 2), to 4500 worth of draft points (pick 3 plus the 25000 in matching picks)?

What will actually happen now is pick 1 is used, as they are only risking 500 points in 'over-bidding', knowing that if the lions match, they'll gain a further 2500 points worth of picks (by picking up pick 2, and 3000 points in matched picks).

Your system will lead to clubs overbidding in the hope that they effectively double their own draft hand.

The premise of the system works, ie: let the player get bid on where they naturally would go, and then clubs can match.
If you don't like the bundling of points you can put a cap on how far behind your first pick can be. IE: bring in a rule that says the 'main' part of the matching must be from the same round of picks, or something like that.
Or get rid of father son altogether.

But to say an unrelated club gets an increased draft hand seems crazy to me.

I didn't agree, I thought he was reading out bingo numbers, I completed my card.

[tigerpie]

If we are playing Milera we are not winning games

I reckon he'll go down as one of the great "what-ifs" of the Adelaide footy club, had a shocking run with injury.

Said it many times on here, never been a fan even before he was drafted

Then you are a terrible judge of a footballer.